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"Hell Hath No Humidity Like": The Carolinas Real Estate Tour, Part II--"Gone Away" :((P. 7 is current)

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    Originally posted by nycjumper View Post

    We are just clearing our land now so don't have answers to your questions yet! Probably by year end, I'll know better At least at first discussion, permits and utilities aren't going to be too difficult - everyone has been super nice. My husband is designing the barn now and I'm sure he'll work with whichever builder we wind up using - he designed the farm in Argentina and he's pretty specific on what he wants.
    Can I ask you stuff via PM about choosing your builder and cost per square foot and all?
    The armchair saddler
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      Still in the Crack House that is Aiken. As my mom put it, the Tentacles of the South are around me. I went to a dinner party last night and met someone whom I had met at another set of parties 15 years ago in Bedford, NY and she had some useful local info for me. That kind of magical, friends introducing me to people they know and those people showing up and helping doesn't happen to me in all parts of my life, but I do want to go where that does happen.

      I rode in Hitchcock Woods and at The Vista. I have seen a lot of beautiful barns and places. But I have heard more than one person say that they have a hard time getting farriers that are as top drawer as is everything else here. I was spoiled by time spent in Cornell University's farrier's expert care, so I'm a bit fussy about having a good farrier. Do you guys think I'm wrong about that aspect of Aiken and/or wouldn't run into that particular problem in Southern Pines or Tryon?
      The armchair saddler
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        Also, the rain has now descended and I didn't quite plan for that, so the Charleston Tour has to be moved back again. Nevertheless, I had a lovely hang out (albeit by phone) with stb who had invited me *twice* to be shown around that intriguing city.

        On to Camden next.... if events later today don't hold me back, tentacle-style.
        The armchair saddler
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          I was in Camden yesterday, hosted by fooler. Such a wonderful experience meeting another real, live COTHer in person. Though small, Camden has a great set of amenities-- The Tack Room (more on that in a minute), a hunt, the South Carolina Horse Park for easy access to a great big showing venue, some BNTs from HunterWorld as well as other pros, the race track and, I'll add, a pretty new Animal Shelter.

          As an aside for you Cat Types, I have noticed many new-builds in shelters around the country. And also, the Camden and Aiken one had some outdoor Lanai-type things for cats. So not only are the cats allowed communal living rather than solitary-confinement cages of yestercentury, but they will have an outdoor section that under a roof. Kittehs can breathe the sweet air of outside and nature.... even while they are orphans in jail! Are cats finally becoming a fashionable charity? These structures certainly do raise the bar for Qat Quality of Life. Hats off to the Southeast for showing me the first Cat Lanais in a shelter.

          In any case, you all know that my mind is open to living in any horse mecca and also that I consider big tack shops to be monuments one must visit when traveling. The Tack Room did not disappoint, especially the Sale Room. Not sure whether a big tack store is a Church or a Crack House, but either way a visit is compulsory. Very fortunately for me, fooler feels the same way and we spent an inordinate amount of time at the Tack Room getting to know each other while looking at tack. Most excellent.

          On to Southern Pines today. You have been warned, you North Carolina types, and those in South Carolina can have your cats back now.
          The armchair saddler
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            And FIRE ANTS! Could you all kindly give me some education?

            I was saddling a horse at The Vista in Aiken and he was, apparently, standing in the wrong place and dancing around about it. I moved him over a spot on the trailer and he was out of their way.

            Then, in Camden, I saw a sign on a property, by the For Sale sign that boasted it's being Fire Ant Free. Apparently, there is a guy who can successfully chase them out of an area. But also, apparently, one needs some kind of Fire Ant Pied Piper and it's not easy to do that?

            What do I need to know about avoiding fire ants on a piece of land I might buy?
            The armchair saddler
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            • Originally posted by mvp View Post
              I was in Camden yesterday, hosted by fooler. Such a wonderful experience meeting another real, live COTHer in person. Though small, Camden has a great set of amenities-- The Tack Room (more on that in a minute), a hunt, the South Carolina Horse Park for easy access to a great big showing venue, some BNTs from HunterWorld as well as other pros, the race track and, I'll add, a pretty new Animal Shelter.

              As an aside for you Cat Types, I have noticed many new-builds in shelters around the country. And also, the Camden and Aiken one had some outdoor Lanai-type things for cats. So not only are the cats allowed communal living rather than solitary-confinement cages of yestercentury, but they will have an outdoor section that under a roof. Kittehs can breathe the sweet air of outside and nature.... even while they are orphans in jail! Are cats finally becoming a fashionable charity? These structures certainly do raise the bar for Qat Quality of Life. Hats off to the Southeast for showing me the first Cat Lanais in a shelter.
              I volunteered at the Aiken shelter while I lived in Aiken, the cat pagoda is very nice. They were only finishing it up when I was there but it looked absolutely beautiful. I think it's a wonderful thing because it keeps the cats happier, and IMHO I think it makes the shelter seem less depressing. Aiken has a really high kill percentage. I think it's something like 95%

              There are so many cats in Aiken, and dogs.. seriously, in a seven month span I picked up (and rehomed) over eight feral dogs... and I was never looking for them either. So, be careful - you might end up with a pack (or pride?) if you aren't careful.. I did

              Anyway, re: Aiken farrier.. I can put you in contact with the farrier that did my guys' hooves if you want. He's based more out of Wagener but does have a few clients in Aiken. He was the best (IMHO) farrier I ever had: good sense of humor, always incredibly happy to explain the 'whys', and very patient. I never had a farrier who was happy to explain things to their clients before and I really appreciated that quality about him. My gelding also really liked him and he was very wary of men the entire time I owned him.

              Have fun in SP! I've always wanted to go there.
              AETERNUM VALE, INVICTUS - 7/10/2012

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              • Aaaah! Fire ants!

                Well, first of all you can see them, or rather their nests. They look like little sand pyramids, or big pyramids if you have them badly!
                I did not have any experience with them until a few years ago when I stepped on a nest--ouch!

                On recommendations from a neighbor I called a guy who came with a big tank and long hose on the back of his pickup truck and sprayed the yard and parts of the garage. IIRC, he charged $100 and guaranteed it for a year and it lasted 2 & 1/2 years. He swore that the chemical wouldn't harm any other pets or rabbits or birds.

                I get a few small nests a year and I just sprinkle them with some of those granular pellets that everyone sells.

                Apparently, the trick is to get the queen, but I don't know at which point the queen appears. Does the colony find/breed a queen and then build her a nest or do they build a nest and then find a queen?

                The sad part is that Google says they prey on fleas, ticks and termites, who wouldn't want that?

                If I were you I would just see it as a trade off for snow/frozen water buckets and just find/use a pied piper.

                Ugh, you had them in the trailer? That's not good!

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                • The queen is very deep in the mound, and getting to her is difficult. Fire ants usually travel downhill, so you start at the top, and keep following the path of new ant hills with whatever treatment you are using . If you are bitten, and use something immediately it might help the pain and itch. I use After Bite (ammonia in a white tube sold at the pharmacy section) immediately and it seems to help.

                  The worst thing about the fire ants is that if a person steps in a mound, they are in serious pain, and some are more sensitive to the bites than others. A friend was bitten, and several years later had lumpy discolored marks on her legs, but most people's bites heal and disappear in a week or so.
                  You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                  • Fire ants do have a useful purpose. Your best bet is not to really worry about them too much, just recognize how to identify them (not hard--as said above, the mounds are easy to see), and avoid them yourself. This is coming from someone who has a very bad reaction to fire ant bites. Unless you buy property with some kind of out of control infestation, you'll be fine. They generally won't come in your house or barn. Honestly, the worst bug of the area is the good ol' palmetto bug (cockroach).

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                    • The easiest time to find the mounds is after it rains. The fire ants hate rain, and build giant mounds that stick up above lawns, and are usually red dirt here, so they're very visible.
                      You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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                        Ok, I made my peace with Fire Ants.

                        And I met new offender I have not seen before: Tiny, sharp balls of sticker pods! Imagine the swinging, spiked ball on the end of a mace(?). If I get tech savvy, I'll post a picture. I was walking on some land with grass that I thought was maybe shin-high and these things latched on! That wasn't so bad, but using your bare, opposable thumbs to take them off wasn't so good. What are they and how can I get rid of them on a piece of land? Is this just a mowing and spraying for weeds thing?
                        The armchair saddler
                        Politically Pro-Cat

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                          And also, I think things finally got realistically hot Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. I'm in Southern Pines today, as I was then. Do you guys agree? Did I get the taste of average heat and humidity in the Carolinas this past week?

                          Very sad to be flying home tonight. I saw or spoke to some COTHers I met in January-- a shout out to Element Farm who has some lovely babies and God's favor when it comes to finding and buying horses on the innerwebz (that I markedly lack). Also, to Badger: I need a pedicure now. So I'll be back for that.

                          I met some new COTHers in the flesh as well: Fox Wood Farm and fooler both showed me grand Southern hospitality and they both made me feel like an old friend. I hope I can return the favor some day.

                          People, I am moving to this side of the country. "Ship the cats!" remains my rallying cry. I have not yet picked my city. So sad that I can't stay in California where the first people on my mom's side of the family came during the gold rush. We have some long connections to California history. But I am priced out and "hustled out" by the techno-revolution that has brought a different kind of culture with the fast-n-young money that has rushed into California.

                          Oh, and for some reason, folks don't foster cats so much in the shelters I checked out. They are *jonesing* for a cat freak like me, it seems.
                          The armchair saddler
                          Politically Pro-Cat

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                          • Originally posted by mvp View Post
                            Ok, I made my peace with Fire Ants.

                            And I met new offender I have not seen before: Tiny, sharp balls of sticker pods! Imagine the swinging, spiked ball on the end of a mace(?). If I get tech savvy, I'll post a picture. I was walking on some land with grass that I thought was maybe shin-high and these things latched on! That wasn't so bad, but using your bare, opposable thumbs to take them off wasn't so good. What are they and how can I get rid of them on a piece of land? Is this just a mowing and spraying for weeds thing?
                            You will never totally make peace with fire ants. When you're least expecting it, you're well stops pumping and you have no water for the animals, it dawns on you, the fire ants are probably nesting in or around the well pump again and have shorted out your pressure switch (again). Just got me yesterday again. But now I know how to fix it, so mainly an inconvenience.

                            The "sandspurs" are probably what you're describing. One year I had every one of them hand dug out of my pastures, only to have them show up again the following year. My local farm/soil county agent said sandspurs only
                            grow in poor soil, so improve the soil and the sandspurs go away. Not true, through experience. So sorry no
                            suggestions on this.
                            "There is no fundamental difference between man and animals in their ability to feel pleasure and pain, happiness, and misery." - Charles Darwin

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                            • I'd say it's been pretty freaking hot and humid the last couple of days. I spent yesterday afternoon at the barn, and even the SC natives were complaining about the heat. I don't know, however, if this is as bad as it gets, or if there is more to experience ahead.

                              Rebecca

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                              • Originally posted by IPEsq View Post
                                Fire ants do have a useful purpose. Your best bet is not to really worry about them too much, just recognize how to identify them (not hard--as said above, the mounds are easy to see), and avoid them yourself. This is coming from someone who has a very bad reaction to fire ant bites. Unless you buy property with some kind of out of control infestation, you'll be fine. They generally won't come in your house or barn. Honestly, the worst bug of the area is the good ol' palmetto bug (cockroach).
                                Palmetto bugs are more than just cockroaches! They're GIANT FLYING ROACHES!!! Menacing, they are. They love to fly directly at your face and consider they've scored bonus points if you have longish hair they can get tangled in.

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                                • Can we talk about the scourge known as palmetto bugs for a minute? Is it common to have them come into a house in SC? My house is only two years old, has good screens on all the windows and tight-fitting doors. Regardless, we're seeing about one a day of these ugly things--in the house. Most bugs don't bug me, but I draw the line at roaches or anything venomous in the house.

                                  My husband keeps telling me "You can either live with winter or live with a few bugs." I guess I don't get to say "Neither one?"

                                  Rebecca

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                                  • Originally posted by RMJacobs View Post
                                    Can we talk about the scourge known as palmetto bugs for a minute? Is it common to have them come into a house in SC? My house is only two years old, has good screens on all the windows and tight-fitting doors. Regardless, we're seeing about one a day of these ugly things--in the house. Most bugs don't bug me, but I draw the line at roaches or anything venomous in the house.

                                    My husband keeps telling me "You can either live with winter or live with a few bugs." I guess I don't get to say "Neither one?"

                                    Rebecca
                                    I'm not sure about SC but in Florida it didn't matter how nice your house was you had cockroaches. The best things you can do is try to minimize places they can get in (having a concrete block home can help with that part) minimize ways you allow them in (grocery store bags, leaving the door open) keep shrubbery and bark away from the sides of the house, and if you really have an issue you can spray inside and outside to kill them.

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                                    • Thanks so much, StormyDay. We are rethinking a few things that we do that we never worried about in Colorado. There, the big deal was keeping flies out of the house all summer, and Miller moths out of the house in May and June. The rest of the time, we didn't worry too much about leaving doors open or having an open recycling bin in the house. So far the recycling bin has moved first to the garage, and now out altogether after my husband started finding the critters in it when he went to dump the bin at the recycling center. I think we'll be putting down some boric acid in the house--that seems to be a good way to kill those suckers. I think I need to cut some bushes back along the house, too.

                                      Rebecca

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                                      • Originally posted by RMJacobs View Post
                                        Thanks so much, StormyDay. We are rethinking a few things that we do that we never worried about in Colorado. There, the big deal was keeping flies out of the house all summer, and Miller moths out of the house in May and June. The rest of the time, we didn't worry too much about leaving doors open or having an open recycling bin in the house. So far the recycling bin has moved first to the garage, and now out altogether after my husband started finding the critters in it when he went to dump the bin at the recycling center. I think we'll be putting down some boric acid in the house--that seems to be a good way to kill those suckers. I think I need to cut some bushes back along the house, too.

                                        Rebecca
                                        I'd skip anything that isn't a true pesticide. Boric acid and such sometimes works of other bugs but cockroaches are a bit more hardy. Spray on the floors around doors, refrigerator etc, and you should be ok. You may even not need to reapply after a few months.

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                                          Originally posted by RMJacobs View Post
                                          I'd say it's been pretty freaking hot and humid the last couple of days. I spent yesterday afternoon at the barn, and even the SC natives were complaining about the heat. I don't know, however, if this is as bad as it gets, or if there is more to experience ahead.

                                          Rebecca
                                          Indeed. Wednesday and today in NC seem to me to be "legitimately hot". I think I got my taste at the very end of my trip.
                                          The armchair saddler
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