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  • #61
    Originally posted by allons-y View Post
    my goodness gracious people, heres the link. Lots of nice horses, even a Fresian. but 2 are head bobbing, some are inverted, many are tense, and some look like their tails were cut off at the hock https://www.usef.org/network/coverag...SaddleSeatInv/
    My old computer buffers so frequently I can't tell if any of the horses are lame.

    Some of the tails look odd due to the fact that they have fake tails attached. Those end bluntly at about hock level, then weird little wisps of real hair hang below the fake. That is not visually appealing turn-out, but nothing sinister.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by csaper58 View Post

      Some of the tails look odd due to the fact that they have fake tails attached. Those end bluntly at about hock level, then weird little wisps of real hair hang below the fake. That is not visually appealing turn-out, but nothing sinister.
      I think that is because their tail (that probably drags on the ground) is tied up and there are wisps that escaped.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by trubandloki View Post

        I think that is because their tail (that probably drags on the ground) is tied up and there are wisps that escaped.
        Nope. Enlarge and magnified, I see thin wispy real tails with short switches. At least on the one I can isolate.

        Short switches (AKA.. fake tails) are less expensive that long switches, and used often on school horses in these parts.

        Here, horses do not go in the show ring with the tail still up, but we are very 'old school' when it comes to turn-out.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by allons-y View Post
          I finally got a day off work after 6 very stressful shifts. I wanted to see what was on the USEF live feed while I vegged out.
          Nothing live, but I clicked on 3 and 5 gaited just for 'whatever'.

          I'm so sad. I know my emotions are tired and raw from work, but still! Hard to even watch those poor horses.

          First and foremost; I have nothing against ASBs, or any other breed. I believe horses truly are a gift from God, the coolest thing He ever created. Here's what I saw as I tried to relax my weary heart: Tense, inverted, some obviously lame, riders sitting on loins or further back. Horrible start to my day. Also, their poor tails.

          The worst part? The horses looked really sincere, trying their hearts out to do whatever they were asked. I did see a couple that I would love to restart for Dressage, or anything really. But good golly, how do people watch this and see beauty, goodness, a celebration of the horse?

          I'm looking at ASB for my next trail, Dressage, all-around partner. It's just hard to see what some of them are living as 'normal' life. I think I'm turning to jello as I age, too much sadness around.
          Can you explain why you feel sad? I'm wanting to do away with sets tails but I think they are great classes to wstch.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by allons-y View Post
            Tense, inverted, some obviously lame means just that- some of those horses were, never a good thing
            Riders sitting on loin or further back means just that - not an encoded spy message
            their poor tails." sort of crinkled up, some looked cut off at the hock, I wonder what happened there
            can you post a link or tell us what show.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by roseymare View Post
              Thank you for posting the link OP.

              There are some questionably sound horses. But it also may be how they are ridden.

              Isn't this competition done by draw, similar to IHSA and IEA. These horses are basically schoolies whom theses riders have not ridden.
              yes exactly.

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              • #67
                Ladylexie, there is a copy of the post with the link in csaper's post #61.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                  Ladylexie, there is a copy of the post with the link in csaper's post #61.
                  Sorry I was way late.

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                  • #69
                    No need to be sorry; I hope you manage to enjoy the videos.

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                    • #70
                      This is a Saddleseat Equitation Championship at a prestigious show in 2010. Different class of horses hand picked for the division.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibYhcmK3S0

                      And I don't know why but ALL the tails are tied up: no they have not been bobbed. Perhaps it is a thing because pattern work may cause a horse to step on the long on the ground tails in turns and backing?
                      I'd appreciate knowing from one in the game, since I don't remember that in long ago times -LOL

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                      • #71
                        Smart me... read the comments on the video - tails up due to mud.

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                        • #72
                          And because many haven't seen a Show Saddlebred without a rider

                          3 gaited loose horse at Lexington. Not lame. pretty handy. quite a turn of speed. and ears up!
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqmKzYQb9Q

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                            Smart me... read the comments on the video - tails up due to mud.
                            That was how I used to do a "mud tail". Braid some ribbon into the bottom 8 inches and tie it back up at the tip of the tail bone. That way the long hairs are protected and the mid-length hairs make a mid-length natural(ish) looking tail. Much better than having a long tail soaked in mud wrapped around a hind leg - which I've seen too.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                              And because many haven't seen a Show Saddlebred without a rider

                              3 gaited loose horse at Lexington. Not lame. pretty handy. quite a turn of speed. and ears up!
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqmKzYQb9Q
                              Hilarious, thank you.

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                              • #75
                                As many have said, these were loaner horses. A friend's Saddlebred who had recently been sold to an Academy program (a former hunt horse no less), was going saddle seat again and was used by the South African team for try outs. I don't know if he was in this class or not.

                                Aboit the tails, a few were tied up and several have clearly been cut for tail switches. My daughter rides Academy and a retired show horse came into the program. Her once extremely long tail had been cut at the hocks and probably sold for a pretty penny. Three years later it is almost dragging the ground again.
                                RIP Mydan Mydandy+
                                RIP Barichello

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                                • #76
                                  I watched the first few minutes of the video and cringed a little bit too at the hitch in some of the horses.

                                  Then I read that they're schoolies. Go to any local hunter show and watch the walk trot through crossrails division and you'll see the same sort of serviceable soundness. You might see a QH with the same speed as a western pleasure horse, a TB with big knees from racing, a WB with grey on his face who used to be a 3'6 horse and is stepping way down, a pony who is as round as he is tall, and a morgan with a lot of knee action but a great attitude.

                                  These horses aren't chosen because they're the fanciest and they wouldn't do well in the upper level classes. They're chosen because they're perfectly well suited for their beginner rider. I can forgive a bit of unsoundness in the name of education.
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                                  • #77
                                    Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                                    And because many haven't seen a Show Saddlebred without a rider

                                    3 gaited loose horse at Lexington. Not lame. pretty handy. quite a turn of speed. and ears up!
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqmKzYQb9Q
                                    I loved the part where he is behind the green roof and all you saw was half his head and those every so alert ears. So cute.

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                                    • #78
                                      Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                                      And because many haven't seen a Show Saddlebred without a rider

                                      3 gaited loose horse at Lexington. Not lame. pretty handy. quite a turn of speed. and ears up!
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqmKzYQb9Q
                                      Strategy 6 for me would have been a feed bucket but not sure even that would have worked he was clearly enjoying himself. I noticed he was quite careful when it came to footing changes.

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
                                        And because many haven't seen a Show Saddlebred without a rider

                                        3 gaited loose horse at Lexington. Not lame. pretty handy. quite a turn of speed. and ears up!
                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqmKzYQb9Q
                                        Yikes!! Yeah, ASBs are nice. Rode them for a while in a lesson program. I'll stick with my pleasure TWH for my 24/7 horse though!

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                                        • #80
                                          This is junior horse showing. The kids are having fun and these horses are lucky to have a job (other than pulling an Amish wagon).

                                          As some here know I spent years in the Saddlebred industry. Won some big championships. Yes, there's things I hate (shoeing, tail sets) but Saddlebreds are bred and built to go (move) the way they do (straight up neck-leg movers) so their motion can look strange to other discipline riders. Much as "peanut rolling" Western Pleasure horses' lope look lame to me.

                                          After spending most of my life in some kind of horse showing (or racing) business, I've learned that when people are involved....the horse must be molded to their image to survive. Right or wrong.
                                          Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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