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Arab Sport Horse folks... could use some direction

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  • Arab Sport Horse folks... could use some direction

    Okay, let's see if I can get this out with a minimum of rambling

    Me: 7 1/2 months pregnant. I consider myself an event rider but if I'm honest I've only done dressage for the last several years. LOTS of experience with Arabs and half Arabs, including a trip to SHN to compete in Training level dressage. I am considered a pro as (up until the pregnancy) I was making a living starting babies under saddle. I haven't shown in about three years now, since I got pregnant with my first (now 2 years old). I have also recently made the long-distance move from the States to Canada.

    I just "acquired" a lovely anglo-Arab mare (I didn't want 2 horses but I couldn't pass her up and I am SO in love!) Here is her pic:

    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6...t1dgc1av8b.jpg

    She has done NOTHING in her life. Nothing at all. Will have to be restarted. I am doing lots of groundwork and longeing with her now, and will restart her in the fall when baby is born and I am physically myself again My question is... then what can I do with her?

    I thought dressage at first, but watching her move she is totally a hunter, possibly a jumper. I have no experience with h/j Arabian style, lol. I have had a local Arab trainer recommended to me but feel a bit silly contacting her now as I will not be doing much with this mare until the fall. So until then, I daydream! I would love to get any thoughts, info, suggestions from Arab people. What would YOU do with her?

    Thanks in advance!
    Vancouver Equine
    www.vaneq.com

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    Nothing really to add, but what a pretty girl! Have fun with her!
    If we have to nail on talent, it's not talent.
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    • #3
      Depends on her movement Sport Horse likes the hunters to go long and low. Here in Region V, hunters going correctly (long frame, low and big ground covering stride) were rewarded. Being too "in the bridle and over collected" did not place, either under saddle or over fences.

      For Sport Horse Under Saddle (in dressage tack) the huge movers won hands down. Toe flipping was very in, as was tons of suspension and lift from both ends.

      Dressage tests were judged the same as any USDF show, horses that are competitive in USDF shows were the ones to win at the AHA Sport Horse Show. Think Quiksilver Bey and Tristtan.

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      • #4
        I would do dressage, the gaits tend to improve the stronger they get, but thats just me. Very pretty mare!

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          #5
          She definitely moves more like a hunter than a dressage horse-- long neck, long strides. I know her neck looks set high in the pic, she moves naturally with her neck long and low (for an Arab, lol). She's also a good size, almost 15.3 (big for an Arab, not necessarily big for a half-Arab I know).

          Twotrudoc, I expect we will be showing in WA state quite a bit (which works for me as I lived in Seattle for several years so am familiar with the area)-- do the shows in your area ever have jumping classes, either hunters or jumpers or both? Or am I limited to the flat classes (hunter type, show hack, sport horse under saddle)?

          Thanks everyone!
          Vancouver Equine
          www.vaneq.com

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          • #6
            Until your baby is born I would find a really good dressage person to get her going solidly under saddle.

            A great dressage foundation will help her no matter what discipline she ends up being best at.

            After she is going well under saddle you and she can start making decisions what her best prospects are. I have had several that did well in hunter under saddle AND dressage at the lower levels. My now Grand Prix dressage horse did dressage and hunter over fences through 3rd level. That is when we decided to specialize in dressage. And just jump occasionally.

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            • #7
              I'm not help but I agree with others... what a lovely lovely girl!

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              • #8
                Oh my! Can I PLEASE have her??? I have just bred an oldenburg mare to an arab for my first arab sporthorse and have been WANTING an anglo SO BAD!!!!
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                • #9
                  I showed my arab pony in hunters/jumpers and even a few events for three years and he always did wonderful. He is an amazing jumper and mover for an arab. He didn't even learn to jump until he was 22! Hes learning dressage now at 26 and also doing great at that. Arabs are just wonderful horses and if they're trained right they can do anything!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mjhco View Post
                    Until your baby is born I would find a really good dressage person to get her going solidly under saddle.

                    A great dressage foundation will help her no matter what discipline she ends up being best at.

                    After she is going well under saddle you and she can start making decisions what her best prospects are.

                    This is a good point... in a way I would love to find a good experienced dressage rider/trainer to work her until I am ready to go, would save us a lot of time in the long run. But I am coughing a bit at the expense... with suddenly having 2 horses, financially I feel like I am better off waiting until fall and working her myself-- I am quite comfortable with my ability and experience both working greenies and doing dressage (I showed consistently through 2nd before getting pregnant with my 2-year-old). If I could find an experienced rider who was looking to ride for free I would do it, BUT I know that no one really wants to essentially train a horse for free and I had a hard enough time finding a rider for my other horse (a green but saintly TB mare)...

                    Guess I'll see what happens. I'll look around and price trainers, and go from there
                    Vancouver Equine
                    www.vaneq.com

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                    • #11
                      If she moves like an actual hunter, which it sounds like, do the sport horse classes and steer clear of "hunter pleasure". Depending on the area, there are hunter/jumper classes you can enter, as well as the under saddle and in hand. Good luck with her...and congrats on the baby!
                      Jennifer Walker
                      Proud owner of Capt Han Solo+, Arabian stallion http://www.capthansolo.com
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                      • #12
                        There's (what I've been told) a good sized Arab and half-Arab scene here in BC, especially for Sport Horses. Maybe check in with some of the trainers...?
                        "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

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                        • #13
                          Yes, the shows out here have hunter over fences. No jumpers so far but there are quite a few big H/J shows at Monroe (Evergreen Equestrian Center). I can not say enough good things about the associations here in Region V! I have so much fun at the shows, it is just great. The season here is about over but Region IV has their Champs in August down by Portland.

                          NW Heritage has SH classes-
                          http://www.northwestheritage.org/Horse%20Show.htm

                          As does Cascade, which is a youth benefit put on by Region V--
                          http://www.regionv.com/calendar/R5Cal.htm

                          Daffodil Association will have SH classes starting next year (2011)--
                          http://www.daffodilarabian.com/

                          If you need any help getting in touch with anyone, let me know, I can help

                          Also, if you have FB, search "Knotted Pony" and add me, I have pics from all the Arab shows there, most recently SH Champs for Region V.

                          I hope to see you and your pretty mare at the shows!

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                            #14
                            Added you on FB, thanks for the info, I'll take a look at everything. Hoping to do the Arab shows in 2011... at least I have lots of time to prepare
                            Vancouver Equine
                            www.vaneq.com

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                            • #15
                              If you want help with Arabian H/J's, contact Terrie Hook at 253-843-1833. She has been showing them since the early 70's and has won National Championships from then until now. She is near Ft Lewis. She also shows eventers.
                              The Inverted Y
                              Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                              2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                              www.allanglos.net

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                                Originally posted by allanglos View Post
                                If you want help with Arabian H/J's, contact Terrie Hook at 253-843-1833. She has been showing them since the early 70's and has won National Championships from then until now. She is near Ft Lewis. She also shows eventers.
                                Thanks!!
                                Vancouver Equine
                                www.vaneq.com

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                                • #17
                                  Terrie is an AWESOME lady, she is the trainer for some of my clients, all of her horses are wonderfully behaved and easy to be around. I have also been volunteering for jump crew with her to help work off some of my fat rear end LOL!

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                                    #18
                                    Okay, twotrudoc, as the braiding expert, help me with this if you will-- what do I do with this mare's mane? Do the sport horses usually have the long (or long-ish) bridle path? Her mane is currently really straggly, parts of it are long but there's a section in the middle that's shorter. I haven't touched it because I assumed she'd need a long Arab-y mane, but would it be okay to shorten if it's going to be braided up for shows?
                                    Vancouver Equine
                                    www.vaneq.com

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                                    • #19
                                      If you're planning on sticking to sport horse, you can pull her mane and braid it like any other breed. A more typical Arab style is okay as a lot of people do halter/main ring/whatever classes as well, though.
                                      exploring the relationship between horse and human

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by VanEq View Post
                                        Do the sport horses usually have the long (or long-ish) bridle path?
                                        No, and don't need it. That's a halter fad that I wish would go away!
                                        Originally posted by HuntrJumpr
                                        No matter what level of showing you're doing, you are required to have pants on.

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