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  • #21
    Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
    Do not under any circumstances buy a 2001 red F250. The clear coat separates from the paint. That also happened with my 1997 red F250. Ford red paint on old diesels sucks.
    Interesting. We have an 01 red F250 (diesel) and my brother has a red 97 F250 (also diesel). Neither have had issues with paint. Wonder if it is a location thing?

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    • #22
      Did I miss mileage on that truck? Also... as an aside, what horrible pictures

      I know they changed the transmissions, so it's supposedly less of a concern, but I had a 95 F350 that was on its third tranny at 225k miles when I traded it in. My boss has a 99 F350 that has somewhere around 180k(?) miles and he had a tranny rebuild already too.

      I have an 01 Chevy 2500 8.1 gas. It has been a workhorse! I'm at 105k miles now (it sat a bit because my ex hated driving it, but refused to let me drive because he was the man, so we always took his...) and I am at the stage of replacing things like tie rod ends, etc. Just did the tranny flush and front/rear diff, and got new tires on it, otherwise that and a new battery and a new windshield, and it's been a champ. Paid $18k for it in 2009.
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        #23
        Its got about 220k miles on it

        Our chevy blew its trans at about 90k miles but we replaced it and its still going at 190k
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        • #24
          If its just a minor dribble dribble type leak and everything else seems ok, thats a steal of a price in my area.

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          • #25
            the 1990's F350 had a transmission problem, the F250's used a different transmission. We traded our F250 with 288 miles and never a problem with the transmission. Ford current 6.7 engine installed since 2011 seems to be doing well.

            Dodge changed engines in mid-2007 from the 5.9 to a 6.7 which wasn't/isn't a big hit. We have an early 2007 mega cab (love that) we bought in 2011 with 142K but a one-owner. We've replaced some structural parts but the engine has purred. We haven't driven it very hard tho and up to about 180K miles now. It gets about 22 mpg on the highway, no trailer, and about 14 mpg towing. Our old F250 with the 7.3 got 20 no tow, and 16 towing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by BasqueMom View Post
              the 1990's F350 had a transmission problem, the F250's used a different transmission. We traded our F250 with 288 miles and never a problem with the transmission. Ford current 6.7 engine installed since 2011 seems to be doing well.

              Dodge changed engines in mid-2007 from the 5.9 to a 6.7 which wasn't/isn't a big hit. We have an early 2007 mega cab (love that) we bought in 2011 with 142K but a one-owner. We've replaced some structural parts but the engine has purred. We haven't driven it very hard tho and up to about 180K miles now. It gets about 22 mpg on the highway, no trailer, and about 14 mpg towing. Our old F250 with the 7.3 got 20 no tow, and 16 towing.
              Do you know when they changed the transmission in the 350s? This one is a mid model year '99.
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              • #27
                regarding the transmission, ask the present owner if they are using a synthetic automatic transmission fluid... my guess is they are since they have installed the temp gauge. Synthetic fluid can withstand higher temperatures and provides longer life

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Jersey Fresh View Post
                  Stupid questions to show my lack of knowledge.

                  Are all 7.3's diesel? and what about the V10? we found a 99 gas V10 in our price range with about 200k miles on it and I'm not sure if its worth looking at.
                  The V-10 will pass everything but a gas station.

                  I have an 02 dodge 2500 with Cummins diesel and love it! Got about 250k miles on it with barely a hickup. Hauls like a dream.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tinah View Post

                    fabulous! Let us know how it goes.
                    He had to reschedule then my hubby was out of town, so he made an appt to go see it after work and it sold right before.

                    Hes going to look at a 250 tonight-almost the exact same specs- 200k miles, 7.3L engine, 4x4, 1999 new tires, set up for a goose (minus the electric). This guy wants a bit more-$6700 so I am not sure about that. He did agree to let us take it for free to our mechanic to look at though, so I guess we will do that and see. Not sure what is a good value vs not for these older diesels.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Jersey Fresh View Post

                      He had to reschedule then my hubby was out of town, so he made an appt to go see it after work and it sold right before.

                      Hes going to look at a 250 tonight-almost the exact same specs- 200k miles, 7.3L engine, 4x4, 1999 new tires, set up for a goose (minus the electric). This guy wants a bit more-$6700 so I am not sure about that. He did agree to let us take it for free to our mechanic to look at though, so I guess we will do that and see. Not sure what is a good value vs not for these older diesels.


                      we just paid $16k for a 2002 f350 4 door, 4x4 with tow package, leather, single rear wheel, 7.3 with 92k and were happy to do it. On the open market the truck would have sold for $25k. If you can get away with a single cab, $6700 doesn't sound bad at all. As a general rule, if the truck needs "a whole new front end", so shocks, ball joints, tie rod ends, bearings, you'll be in it for $3k. So when you are looking, if the work has already been done it's worth a lot. And 200k miles is right about when the suspension (front end) needs a little work.

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                        #31
                        Originally posted by tinah View Post



                        we just paid $16k for a 2002 f350 4 door, 4x4 with tow package, leather, single rear wheel, 7.3 with 92k and were happy to do it. On the open market the truck would have sold for $25k. If you can get away with a single cab, $6700 doesn't sound bad at all. As a general rule, if the truck needs "a whole new front end", so shocks, ball joints, tie rod ends, bearings, you'll be in it for $3k. So when you are looking, if the work has already been done it's worth a lot. And 200k miles is right about when the suspension (front end) needs a little work.
                        ok thanks. Its actually the cab with the back seat but not the quad cab. I cant remember what that is.

                        At 200k can we expect it to run for say 5 more years (maybe less than 10k miles a year on it)? That is what we are hoping to get out of it. Also, what about the trans? It my chevy, it blew out about 100k miles, and it was replaced and now its running fine at around 190k...
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                        • #32
                          You should expect the motor to go 750k or so. The transmission is variable. Change the fluid on the regular, it should go 500k. Um, when you've been hauling, let the truck run for 10-15 minutes after you stop to let the turbo and transmission cool down. The reason you see diesels running in parking lots is not because the owner is an ass showing off his big truck, but because the bearings in the turbo are oil cooled. It's not normally an issue if you've just been puttering, but if you've been running hard or towing it's always a good idea to let the truck get used to being stopped.

                          when you go to start it, you stop the key in the accessory/run position until the little curl ribbon light on the left hand side goes out, then turn to crank it. That light lets you know the glow plugs have warmed up the cylinder. Not a huge deal in summer, but important on cooler days. Diesel fuel doesn't burn as easy as gas, so the glow plus mean you don't have to crank the engine forever and run down the batteries.

                          it sounds like a lot, but it's easy to get used to. Diesels cost more to maintain and fuel up, but they last much, much longer than gas vehicles.

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                            #33
                            Ok that one didn't work out-it needs about $1200 worth of work and he wouldn't meet us in the middle and knock $500 off. Which is ok.

                            Any suggestions as far as other makes-diesel and otherwise. I know nothing about dodge or chevy. We need to stay under $7000 so we are looking at late 90s-early 00s with about 200k miles. Would love soemhjfn we could get another 5 (reliable) years out of.
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                            • #34
                              We had a 7.3 standard shift. (1989 model). We maintained it very well, never gave us a spot of trouble driving all over mountainous BC with camper and two horses, and my husband's friend has it now....we gave it to him after it gave us 23 years of loyal service. Original transmission, too. The paint job stood up well, but in the end I gave it a cheap Maaco paint job to spiff it up.

                              My son had the 6.0 Ford 350 diesel - blew up a few thousand km after warranty expired and he lost about $13,000 by trading it in on a Dodge.
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                              • #35
                                I have a 2005 Silverado 1500 that I love. It's a 6.0L V-8, 155,000 miles, and it hauls wonderfully, especially considering it's on the smaller side of full sized pickups. HOWEVER. It has a mysterious coolant leak, lifter issue, and now an oil leak. I did some research, and turns out there is a known issue with these engines... the heads tend to crack right at the bolts, making it hard to diagnose without pulling the head altogether. The oil leak is between the transmission and the engine, and would require the transmission to be pulled to replace the gasket. Lots of $$$$$.

                                Anyway. I think the slightly older Silverados are a little more reliable and have fewer mechanical issues. My truck is fine as long as I monitor fluid levels, and I'll drive it into the ground before I sell it. But I think you'll be hard pressed to find a truck that old with little to no issues. Yes, they do exist... so good luck!

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