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  • #41
    Yeah, chickens......

    During my stint as a freelance trainer, I was working with a horse and owner at a yard that was crawling with chickens. So. many. chickens. And the shite was everywhere!

    The real fun at that yard, however, was the yard owner's Gypsy cob stallion who lived in a paddock alongside the track you had to take to get from the stables to the arena. The only thing between that stud and the rest of the world was some electric tape attached to those flimsy plastic fenceposts. When we led my client's mare past him, he'd go ballistic, charging around his field, rearing, prancing, the works. I told my client (a very green novice who was overhorsed by her cob mare) that I thought this was unsafe, to say the least. Client said, "It's fine. The yard owner says he won't go through the electric tape." Yeah, right. Until he does.
    Help me keep my horse in peppermints and enjoy a great read! My New York City crime novel, available on Amazon.


    • #42
      Like Core, I'm afraid this is going to make me sound like a Diva, but here goes anyway...

      Barn #1: BO wasn't the most financially savvy person, bank was regularly knocking at her door ready to file bankruptcy. My horse never went without feed/water, but hay supply would regularly be down to the last bale for a barn full of 40 horses, and shavings ran out more than a few times, meaning really ugly stalls for days. I moved when she asked for board weeks early to stave off a collector; she was out of business within about 6 months or so.

      Barn #2: Smaller barn (14 horses), technically co-op but was basically full care when I moved in, though the onsite worker didn't clean stalls on Sundays (no big deal). Onsite worker eventually quit/moved, cycled through a couple other worker options before the barn eventually went to true co-op status, meaning each boarder had to take turns doing full barn duties (feed, turnouts, clean all stalls) a couple times per week, which amounted to a few hours' work each "shift." Coincidentally, when we went to full co-op, we also got a big board INCREASE, and it never sat well with me that I was doing a ton more work AND paying more money to do so. Plus, since I only got out to the barn 3 or 4 times a week anyway and only had a few hours to spend there, it got to the point where I was working more than I was riding. So I moved out in favor of a full-care barn.

      Barn #3: The place which really taught me what questions to ask up-front, lol... ~25 horses, BO's lived onsite and provided all the barn care themselves. I asked re: how much turnout the horses get, was told they're out every day "until they want to come in." What I didn't realize was that their pastures were crappy with little/no grazing, so after an hour or so, all the horses would wind up standing at the gates, so they'd bring them in. And they also wouldn't turn out if they weren't at home/chance of rain/etc., so my horse ended up being in his stall 90% of the time. Oh, and the BO proceeded to tell me how "you boarders don't know how good you have it, we do all this work and all you do is come out and ride your horse." She really, REALLY seemed to resent her boarders... Well I'm sorry, but you advertise full care and that's what I'm paying for, so.....??? So I moved out in favor of a friendlier barn with better turnout.

      Barn #4: Was AWESOME. Absolutely wonderful BO's, who paid a few employees fair wages to do all the barn work. Friendly boarders, little drama, tons of turnout time. Loved loved LOVED everything about this place and stayed for a couple years. Unfortunately the barn manager ended up leaving not by his choice (legal issues not related to the barn), the BO's decided to lessen their involvement with the running of the place, and leased the barn out to someone else to run it. Lots of folks left, vibe changed. I divorced and moved around this time, so I ended up moving my horse to a cheaper facility with better amenities, closer to home.

      Barn #5: Initially liked the place, friendly BM, nice group of people, lots of turnout, lots of trails. Odd situation/family dynamics between the actual property owner and the BM, and BM (who was awesome) ended up leaving. This was the fifth management change in as many years. Got a hinky feeling about the whole thing, like it had become the kind of place where I would get a call at 11 at night, saying all the horses had to be moved out by morning... Just an odd vibe. Had no personal issues with any of the folks involved but opted to leave. Plus, even though it was technically closer to home, it was really out of my way to get there and I wasn't going out as often anyway.

      Barn #6: Current place. A bunch of my horse friends currently board here, so there are lots of friendly faces. Barn is under new ownership/management, is a work in progress, but so far all seems well. It's the most expensive place I've boarded so far, but other than that, no complaints.
      *friend of bar.ka

      "Evidently, I am an unrepentant b*tch, possible trouble maker, and all around super villian"


      • #43
        I've moved barns 4 times. First barn I rode and boarded at for about 15 years. BO/Manager/Trainer was phenomenal until some things in her life began to change and her remedy to fix things was with Chardonnay. It got to the point where not only for our horse's sake but for her to get healthy - we had to move. 2nd barn was great in many many ways but I made the mistake of being too generous with my horse. My work schedule and commute was long so it made sense to partial lease horse. Well that partial lease to 1 kid turned out to be the trainer's lesson horse. So any time I actually made it out there someone was getting ready to have a lesson on him. And I got no barn discount. Not only that but though he's a sweet agreeable horse, he started misbehaving. So I decided I needed to move him or sell him. Moved him to another barn where he injured himself then colicked and that facility really didn't have the best in terms of recovery areas so moved to current barn which I absolutely love and hope I never ever have to leave.


        • #44
          Barn 1: left because my trainer at the time and the BO had a falling out, the barn wasn't being cared for properly - so previous trainer started renting her own place and I went with her.

          Barn 2: Stayed here for a long time. Probably 5 or so years. Left because the care was going downhill and I was beginning to outgrow my trainer. Also my mare was injuried and I was already paying $$$ to get her surgeries and rehab needs met - previous trainer was still charging me for lessons I could not take and charging extra to have the horse in all the time even though I was supplying her bedding. Having a board bill that has a comma in it for one horse who isn't rideable didn't fly with me. Barn was also not set up for rehab, I would go to handwalk early in the morning and trainer wouldn't show up to feed until 10 and my horse was getting increasingly harder to handle and I was worried about being at the barn on my own. In hindsight I think previous trainer also held some resentment towards my horse for whatever reason.

          Barn 3: Moved my horse here short term to finish her rehab. Was a big lesson barn, had mostly young kids doing the feeding. I was riding horses for them so I was there to supervise care most of the time but kids would miss things etc. I also knew when my mare was ready to be turned out the property would not have worked for her. I ended up leaving before she could be turned out because I bought a recently gelded horse that was a bit gnarly on the ground and did not feel comfortable letting younger, inexperienced kids handle him (they are very good at handling lesson/quiet horses, but he was a 17 hand race fit 4 year old that still thought he was a stallion, someone was going to get eaten). They were a little peeved that I felt as though their care wasn't good enough for my gelding - but I really did everyone a favor as they were a bit afraid of my mare too.

          Love the barn I'm at now, but leaving soon to be a working student.


          • #45
            1) Left barn #1 in Massachusetts to move across the country to Utah. I had one horse at that point and I had been at that barn for 12 years. My horse was 23 when I moved

            2) Left my first Utah barn because the BM whom I thought was the BO had been evicted for not paying the lease on the property. It was a blessing in disguise because I found a place much closer to my condo and got to see my semi-retired gelding pack on the weight he had lost at the first barn. Apparently along with not paying the lease, the BM was not feeding the horses. She nearly had me convinced that it was getting to be "his time". Serendipity gave him another six years!

            3) The worst thing that happened at the second barn was that my horse and his neighbor played mighty stallion over the fence of their runs and mutually destroyed blankets. I stayed happily there until I left the state and moved to Washington.

            4) The first barn in Washington was great, but their turnout didn't suit an older horse. The pens were gravel and so small he just stood there. And the lesson schedule was so busy that I could only turn out in the arena for about 10 minutes if I planned things right.

            5) I moved to another barn in that had wonderful turnout and everything was lovely, until I got a new riding horse and a PMU foal and had to move to self-care.

            6) The self-care place was pretty poorly run but I stayed there for 11 or 12 years because being self-care we didn't have many demands or expectations. Any demand or expectation we had was not met pretty much, but my friends and made do, and it was cheap and had plentiful pasture. I really got into both breeding and rescuing at that place, and the low overhead made it possible. Then things got worse with the landlord and we had to part ways.

            7) Now I'm back down to two horses and have been caring for them myself at a rental place.

            I'd like to board again or at least I think so until I try it! These two girls were PMU foals from 2003 and have never been in a commercial barn with other people handling them. It could be an utter fiasco for all I know!
            Shall I tell you what I find beautiful about you? You are at your very best when things are worst.


            • #46
              Had my mule at a farm where the Mexican help were treating him badly (please, no noise...it's germaine to the story)....you can really tell when a long ear isn't happy. I was told by Mexican friends mules aren't respected in their country, only horses. He was so happy to leave, I got him off the trailer a the new barn and he instantly rolled and just looked relaxed.

              Had one BO who was certifiably insane, too many drugs and nothing but drama-queen all the time. Plus, treated her help terribly. Nothing like a BO going on a date/4-day vacation leaving the barn with a 16 y.o. girl intern.
              "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"


              • #47
                My most recent move was due to me and my DH buying our dream farm

                Most of my other moves have been related to lack of turnout, lack of hay, or the barn closing. There was only one place I left on bad terms and that was because I had the nerve to ask for the extra hay that I was paying for.
                Fils Du Reverdy (Revy)- 1993 Selle Francais Gelding
                My equine soulmate
                Mischief Managed (Tully)- JC Priceless Jewel 2002 TB Gelding


                • #48
                  I wish I didn't have to leave my current boarding situation. I tried to persuade the BO to buy some land in South Carolina and move my horse along with her two, but she's not going for it. Geez, just because her daughter and grandchildren are here is no reason not to move, right?

                  I think I've found a good situation in SC for my old pony, but I'll still miss the BO here in Colorado.



                  • #49
                    I only left one barn, detailed in the thread about when Odie broke his leg (https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f...st-rads/page17), when my xDH was boarding two horses at a place and the BO decided to price gouge the hell out of us with an injured donkey. We pulled the donkey and the two other horses there on full board. Care was excellent but damn.
                    COTH's official mini-donk enabler

                    "I am all for reaching out, but in some situations it needs to be done with a rolled up news paper." Alagirl


                    • #50
                      Because my trainer's husband started stalking me and coming on to me whenever I was at the farm. (they owned the place and lived onsite) Time to go when you fear for your personal safety.


                      • #51
                        What is wrong with me???? I have been at the same barn for 21 years, which is 4 minutes from my house. Excellent care of my horse, good turnout, trails, two outdoors, one midsize indoor, four wash stalls, two heated tack rooms. I have never found an empty or dirty bucket. There is always hay in my horses stall and in the fields. Fencing is three years old and excellent. All fields have water and heated troughs.

                        There are 32 horses, and although we are located in a county park, visitors are respectful and keep their distance from the horses. There are no loose dogs even though there is a dog park across the street. We are on 250 acres and across the street from another 4,000 acre park with trails. Bicyclists wander through on a bike trail but stop for horses, fishermen walk by the outdoor but no problem. There is even a playground next to the big outdoor but the horses all handle it. Parents keep their kids away from the horses.

                        Cost is below market for this expensive area (central NJ).

                        I must just have good luck.