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  • Moving to the Netherlands for horsey job - help please?

    I'm pretty excited to start my new working student job in The Netherlands in August, but this whole relocation thing has me freaking out. Particularly the moving of my dog. Though she is only 12lbs, she can't ride in the cabin of the plane with me. So what are my other options? The airlines that I spoke to about it suggested Animal Land Pet Movers, but I'm pretty nervous about the whole thing. Does anybody have any experience with moving abroad with a pet? Any suggestions?
    "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
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    Having flown with horses who didn't bat an eye at the whole loading, take-off, flying, landing thing I should imagine a dog would be fine. They may be a bit stressed when they get off, but there's really no way to avoid the flying, right? Don't stress!

    Where in the Netherlands are you going to if you don't mind me asking? I am in Belgium about 15min from the border and have a bunch of friends in the NL. It's awesome there! Best of luck!!
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    • #3
      We had friends that flew their 3 dogs from the Dutch West Indies to France and If I remember correctly, they had no problems at all. We flew our dogs from the Dutch West Indies back to the States with no problems. The airlines won't fly animals if it is hotter that 84 F.

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      • #4
        I've used Animal Land Pet Movers before and they were great! Made sure that the dog wasn't flown if it was too hot and made sure that I was updated the whole time!
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        • #5
          KLM has their own division of animal transportation and I believe that you can book your dog's ticket directly through them.

          I lived in the Limburg area in 2008 and loved it! We worked a crazy amount, but the horses were amazing so it was worth it. Good luck =)

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          • #6
            Why won't they let your dog fly in the cabin? I flew Delta when we moved to Germany and both my daschsunds came in the cabin with my husband and I (one 14lbs the other 17lbs). I got Ace for them from the vet. They were a little scared but made it through unscathed. I didn't acclimate them to the bags like I should have I think...

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            • #7
              I flew my ferrets in pressurized cargo. The airline I flew on didn't allow pets in cabins, but would transport them as live cargo. I actually routinely see dogs in large airline-approved crates being put into cargo at the airport.
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                #8
                Thanks everyone - your assurances are helping ease my mind a bit. The airline I'm flying has a weight restriction for pets in the cabin that is just under 13lbs (with kennel). However, after speaking with someone at the airline, I think my dog will be flying pressurized cargo. This whole pet travel thing is so stressful! Lol.

                So for everyone that has lived abroad - any tips? Things I might not think to bring that will make my life easier? Anything I should be bringing as a working student that will make life easier?

                Thanks again for all of your help! I can always count on COTH.
                "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
                -George Morris

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SaturdayNightLive View Post
                  Thanks everyone - your assurances are helping ease my mind a bit. The airline I'm flying has a weight restriction for pets in the cabin that is just under 13lbs (with kennel). However, after speaking with someone at the airline, I think my dog will be flying pressurized cargo. This whole pet travel thing is so stressful! Lol.

                  So for everyone that has lived abroad - any tips? Things I might not think to bring that will make my life easier? Anything I should be bringing as a working student that will make life easier?

                  Thanks again for all of your help! I can always count on COTH.
                  Bring the must haves that you can't do without, you know, the candy and doodads you can't get over there...

                  No, really, only money, it's easy to carry, European banks are used to handle foreign currancy (not like US institutions... )

                  You can get everything there. Take it as a chance to explore new horizons.

                  A suitcase full of close (jeans tend o be expensive in Europe), books, MP# player.

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                  • #10
                    Pets ship just fine in cargo. I think it's actually easier on them than the cabin, because there is less going on.

                    Line the bottom of the kennel with newspaper and use some sort of fleece/fake fleece pad on top. I used my old hunter schooling pads, actually. The fleecy stuff if pretty porous and will let urine soak through, which the newspaper will catch. Then your dog can stay dry on top. Don't line the kennel with towels -- they just get wet and stay wet.

                    If you are still up in AK, make sure she is on flea control and heartworm prevention before she goes on the plane. I know not everyone bothers with that as a routine thing up there.
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                    • #11
                      Maybe bring a few days supply of her food so that you can transition her to Dutch dog food gradually?

                      I lived in Belgium for 5 years and travelled to Holland frequently. I LOVED it!!

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                      • #12
                        Do you know where will you be moving to? I live in the NL too!

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                          #13
                          Thanks everyone!

                          HappyVagrant - Thanks for the ideas on what to do inside the kennel - I'll be sure to take your advice. She is on heartworm and flea meds because she is in KS with me, but you're right, we don't bother in AK, so I appreciate the reminder all the same.

                          lintesia - Yep, will do. I'm actually a little worried about switching her because I'm such an OCD freak about what my pets eat. Surely though she will live without her super premium dog food.

                          Farecentro - I'll be moving in about mid-August.
                          "Are you yawning? You don't ride well enough to yawn. I can yawn, because I ride better than you. Meredith Michael Beerbaum can yawn. But you? Not so much..."
                          -George Morris

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                          • #14
                            Make sure you have all of the immunizations and health certificates required to enter the Netherlands -- it's best to find out about all this well ahead of time so you don't miss anything. A quick google search should bring up what you need. Since you are planning to use a pet shipper, they will be able to give you a better idea, but you should contact them NOW. If your dog doesn't have a microchip, you'll need to get one due to EU rules and regs. You may need to get a second when you get there since some EU chips are not readable in the US and vice versa.

                            I've shipped my dogs to and from Russia and India -- they weather it just fine, although my Aussie let me know all the way across the airport just how MAD she was about the whole thing. I've both taken them as excess baggage (far, far cheaper) and used a pet shipper. One thing I have been told every time is not/not to sedate them if they are going cargo due to the risk of suffocation. I line the bottom of the crate with cardboard and then these wonderful puppy pee pad cushions that soak up the urine and then the top dries. I put a ton of shredded newspaper over the top of that.

                            In my experience, the best airline for shipping pets is Lufthansa with KLM a close second. United is ok. Delta is meh.

                            Some good information on expatica:

                            http://www.expatica.com/nl/family/pe....html?ppager=0
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                            • #15
                              Ah, yes, micro chip.

                              You can order the European ones online and have the vet put them in.

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