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  • #81
    A .410 shotgun is a handy gun to have, especially if your have neighboring houses close by. The "kids" single shot .410 is a surprisingly accurate little gun. You can buy one at Walmart for less than $100. I still have the one that I have had since I was 9 years old (1959).

    To me, poisoning is a cruel way to kill anything and is definately not as selective or as quick and painless as a head shot. My preferred tool for varmits is a .22 Mag or the newer .17 HMR. Both are accurate enough for head shots to varmits up to about 150 yards.

    If you have a partner get one of these for nightime varmit elimination. http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...jpg&hasJS=true

    If you are alone get one of the Red lights that mount on the gun--also available from Cabela's.

    For those of you that might have anything to say about having guns on the farm--TOUGH. We are even personal friends with the Brady family. When you live as far as we do from the "local" (45 minutes away at best--who knows as usual) law enforcement establishment and you need to dial 911 because of trouble 911 better be the combination to your gun safe.

    Anyone who is uncomfortabale handling a gun and is even too shy to go to a safety class is welcome to come here and we will teach you how to handle one safely and shoot accurately. It's definately not something you want to do if you are nervous even having one in your hand. We have a very safe range to shoot on. It's like any skill--there is no substitute for practice.
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    • #82
      Well, four down and I am hoping that the rest left. I have had several families of coons in my stable, tearing things up (the ceiling for instance) They never bothered the trash- however, they'd come out and confront me while cleaning stalls, or riding in the arena.

      A borrowed .22 with fragmenting bullets are the best. The bullet splits into three distinct pieces and will not penetrate the roof of the building- a concern since they were living in the soffits of my arena and stable. Nail those suckers and then burn them.

      I even went so far (jokingly) as to take the skeltal remains and put them on little sticks to ward off any new visitors. *evil grin...* I don't know if the latter actually worked, but after 6mos. of trying to trap them (humanely) it was obvious that these had been trapped and released before as there was no activity in the traps- even with smoked salmon for bait! I hired an experienced trapper/exterminator who works for the DNR ( licensed at vermin removal) and he also came to the conclusion that the gun was going to be the only solution.

      BTW- most animal control officers will not dispose of racoons- no pick up, no help.

      Julz- of the "I hate Racoons club"
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      • #83
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr:
        Well, I set up a trap last night. Nothing. They must not like Snickers bars.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        I've found a handful of sweetfeed and an apple to be irresistable to the varmits.

        My boss shots them the cage, but I never stick around to watch that part. I do, however, give them a "last meal", water & cover the cage with a large old towel while they are waiting (seems to calm them).

        Another tip is to set the trap on a nice thick layer of old feed sacks. When they get caught in the cage, they tend to mess all over the place during the night. Makes for easy clean up (burn the sacks).

        Two Toofs
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        • #84
          Maybe make a trail of food(I use cat food) into the trap. I sometimes have to do this to trap the 'possums. I've also hear that raccoons can't resist marshmellows. Leave a nice trail of mini marshmellows in to the trap. Kind of sound like Hansel and Gretel...

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          • #85
            Good, smelly canned cat food works for me. Just make sure all the cats are locked up or that is all you will catch.

            Last year in Southern Pines, my doggie Shelby found a raccoon wandering by the pond in the middle of the day. The farm handyman told me to get her away, because any raccoon which is out in daylight is sick.

            Have other people heard that?

            Speaking of Shelby, she is my little ole raccoon catcher. She has caught several of them and I have had to grab her and shout at her to get her to release them. EEEWWWWWW! But so far she has not been bitten and I do keep her rabies shots very up to date.

            As far as guns go, I am interested in any gun with bullets that will not go through a roof, but will kill a raccoon. Sometimes I will go out for a late night check and the 'coons have gotten so bold that they are already in the work room, eating cat kibble. When I go in, they run behind the sink to hide. They would be easy to kill there (I have banged them on the head with a broom handle, in an attempt to get them out of the work room. But they buggers will not move.) But I do not want to shoot holes in my [stainless] sink.

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            • #86
              Zipping up my flame suit, and preparing to be totally, completley blunt...

              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by relocatedTXjumpr:
              Well, I set up a trap last night. Nothing. They must not like Snickers bars.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              I'm glad you ditched the antifreeze idea, but can I just ask... have you taken any further steps to keep the raccoons out of your trash? Have you had ANY other problems with the raccoons, other than their getting into trash?

              So far, you've said that you no longer put food in the trash cans, and that they have a locking lid. Good... but those Rubbermaid trash cans with the flip-up handles probably wouldn't even keep out a determined dog (who doesn't have the benefit of a raccoon's nimble paws ). Why don't you simply try other methods of securing your trash before killing them?

              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>When you shoot them...I am worried of it "moving" and missing it, or hitting the wires of the cage instead.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              If you're not a good enough shot to be reasonably certain you can shoot an animal in a trap, why don't you get someone who IS to do it for you? Not to be morbid, but I've heard plenty of stories of people taking three or four tries to shoot and kill a relatively immobile animal. Not a very humane way to go...

              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Rabies is carried in the blood...right? I will need to clean the cage and any other spot that might get blood on it...should I use bleach to do this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              I don't believe rabies is carried in blood... I believe it's transmitted through saliva, which is why it's transmitted by biting.

              http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/rabies/

              That said, I'd still wear gloves and disinfect everything afterward.

              I don't have a problem with killing wildlife that are truly dangerous or a nuisance, but to be perfectly blunt, it seems like you'd rather kill these critters than go through the trouble of securing your trash. I'd be a lot more sympathetic if you'd already tried everything under the sun and they were STILL getting into the garbage, eating all your grain, having raccoon parties in the rafters of your barn, etc...

              Just MHO.

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              • #87
                I have been told ever since I was little to stay away from a raccoon that is out in the daylight. The few that I have seen out in the daylight certainly did look sick.

                "Today I will ask so much of her, ask her to leave her equine world and join mine. And if I am very good today- if I am a true horsewoman- she will be happy that I pulled her away from her green grass, her friends, and everything that makes her life happy and secure." - Bo Derek
                \"It is good to be fine.\"

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                  #88
                  I am not sure if they have made it into the barn. I have found teeth marks, as if somthing had been chewing on the grain bins. I put out some mouse posion and it seems to have stopped. Although I found a squrril tail in there...hmmmm.

                  they are getting into the trash, and have been. they have also been in the garage...climbing in the bed of my truck as said before. I have moved the trash into my outside laundry room. I didnt do this before because if they get in there I was afarid they would like the warmth and take it as their own little apartment. This room has a locking door to the outside of the carport as well as to the inside of the mud room. If they get in the outside door they might be able to get into the house. We will see. They have indeed been down to the pasture by the barn. Feed buckets have seemed to learn how to walk in the past few weeks. Maybe because of the lack of food in the trash

                  I will say the one is HUGE. I dont know if I scared him as bad as he scared me...but he about gave me a heart attach the other night! He was on top of the trash, attempting to yank the lid off, when I walked out to see what the noise was...he jumped off the can, tipping it over, and then hig tailed in through the pasture. I was sure it was a boogy man. I dont know that he would fit in the cage..i mean this thing is HUGE!

                  I am a good shot. I was raised with guns and am a life time member of the NRA. I have been to shooting ranges and such. I have never shot an animal, or attempted to shoot one. If I am going to kill it I dont want to take the chance of missing...which is why I asked the best way to go about it.

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                  • #89
                    So... you have solved the trash problem by moving it into the laundry room, which has a locking door. Have you had any problems since then?

                    And whatever has tried to get into your grain isn't trying to anymore, so that isn't a problem at the moment.

                    So you're going to shoot the raccoons because they've been in your pasture and moved your buckets?

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                      #90
                      I just moved the trash into the laundry room lastnight, so we will see if they attempt to chew on the door. They could stick their hands underneith and try to shake it loose....my inside cat does this to get into shut rooms. We will have to wait and see.

                      Hopefully they will get bored and move on. If they dont and start gnawing away at the house or barn then they have to go.

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                      • #91
                        why on earth don't people have metal trash cans with bungys if you live in the country? That's de rigeur. As well as keeping them inside until trash day.

                        And keeping feed in plastic bins is just asking for a rat problem, never mind wildlife. yuk. Metal lined bins are mandatory. The best feed bins are old chest freezers IMHO. Cheap and mighty effective.

                        Better not move someplace with bears! lol...

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                        • #92
                          Wow...I'm surprised so many people are against using anti-freeze to kill them or even killing them at all.

                          Your horses must not been a lot, huh? If I ever saw a raccoon near by barn, I would go out and club the damn thing with a golf club or kill it with my bare hands if it kept my horses from getting EPM.

                          - L.

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                          • #93
                            Tha Ridge - I can only assume that you are very, very young if you can't see why using antifreeze to kill animals is incorrect. Not only is it illegal because of what it does to the groundwater table, but it also has the extreme potential to harm any number of innocent animals outside of whatever it is you are "trying" to kill.

                            And I also take EXTREME offense of your assumption that just because we all aren't out there clubbing raccoons to death with golf clubs, that our "horses don't mean a lot to us".

                            Grow up, dear. Or at least try to be a little more informed before you post on a controversial subject.

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                            • #94
                              &lt;&lt;Wow...I'm surprised so many people are against using anti-freeze to kill them or even killing them at all.&gt;&gt;

                              Because if you put out antifreeze, all the local cats and dogs will drink it if they find it. End of story. It smells sweet and attracts animals. Once they've got it in their system, there's little a vet can do but watch them suffer or euthanize them. Nor should it be left sitting around to potentially get into the groundwater. I vote for trapping and shooting which at least minimizes risk to other animals who aren't a nuisance.

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                              • #95
                                Ditto everything breezymeadow said. She worded that much more diplomatically than I would have.
                                If I wanted to hear the pitter-patter of little feet, I'd put shoes on my cats.

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                                • #96
                                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tha Ridge:
                                  Wow...I'm surprised so many people are against using anti-freeze to kill them or even killing them at all.
                                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  What surprises the hell out of me is that people can presumably have so much compassion for one animal (horse) and so little for another.

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                                  • #97
                                    This is NOT against you TX it is just a general statement

                                    Killing any animal with antifreeze is CRUEL. It killst eh animal slowly, painfully, and without any mercy. It is horrid and rediculous to do this to an animal. To me it sounds like a dumb and unthought out plan.

                                    I will now step off of my soap box

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                                    • #98
                                      Sorry LH, I read your response at work, and had no idea I had a typo into guy instead of gun. Unfortunately, I read that (I was supposed to working) when I had a mouthful of coke, and came close to strangling on it (soda in your sinuses is truely painful).
                                      So, I meant gun, but buying a guy to snuff the coons is also a good idea I think.

                                      I might consider selling you my husband, and while he is not a hunter of animals, he does very well at trap and skeet.


                                      As for shooting in the cage, I'm not experienced in that regard, so I would consult with a local sport club.

                                      I myself generally have no issues with wildlife, I do have coyotes on my property as well as possums and coons. And as for clubbing all species just on sight-I think thats a bit extreme. Just because you kill one, does not mean that others will not come wandering through your pasture. And, they are not the only hosts. With that type of response, you may as well just drop a nuke on your property and wipe out everything. There is an ecology to things, and many things (including humans thanks very much) carry diseases and cause harm.

                                      Not that I don't sympathize with Lord Helpus and her hotel for wayward wildlife. Now, in that situation, the destruction and acts of blatant disregard by the coons towards LH, would also cause me to agree with sending them to the recycle bin in the sky.

                                      When I was living in FL, I had a problem with a feral sow. Now, baby domestic piggies, they be cute. But, adult sow feral piggies, they be ugly.

                                      This 600lb feral sow decided to break down my feedroom door one day and rip open the grain bins. She also knocked over fences by rubbing on them, dug holes in the pasture, and caused all other sorts of damage and ruckus. She was also a danger to me and the little animals.
                                      Therefore, I contacted a friend (ex vietnam sniper and hunter of deer) and asked him for help. He came out and dropped momma piggie with one shot (who at this point had 6 babies in tow) and we had bacon for weeks
                                      Babies went to a friends farm up the road (also to be bacon).

                                      So, the moral to the story-find someone capable to be the official snuffer and do what is necessary, but do it right. I would not advocate any sort of poison, or even random killing just because they are seen. However, if damage or danger occurs, then be responsible about it.

                                      Also as an FYI, bleach is the cleaner of choice, and gloves and shovels should be used on carcasses. Rabies, EPm, raccoon roundworm and a host of other things are transmitable.
                                      Bodies should not be thrown in trash, but buried deep with lime, or burned (with masks used). If buried, do NOT bury near a well/water source.

                                      OH, and LH, if you don't want to buy my husband, then you can sell tickets and bill yourself as a roadside zoo. Its a nice extra income.....

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                                      • #99
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Windsor:
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tha Ridge:
                                        Wow...I'm surprised so many people are against using anti-freeze to kill them or even killing them at all.
                                        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        What surprises the hell out of me is that people can presumably have so much compassion for one animal (horse) and so little for another.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        Well said, Windsor. I'm reading this thread in amazement. If I had to kill an animal because it posed a real threat to my family (including animals) I could- but it would be with regret and sadness and hopefully, compassion. I have seen animals die from anti-freeze poisoning- it broke my heart. I couldn't sleep at night if I subjected any of God's creatures to such a death. No thanks.

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                                        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tha Ridge:
                                          Wow...I'm surprised so many people are against using anti-freeze to kill them or even killing them at all.

                                          Your horses must not been a lot, huh? If I ever saw a raccoon near by barn, I would go out and club the damn thing with a golf club or kill it with my bare hands if it kept my horses from getting EPM.

                                          .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          Sweetcheeks, have you ever seen an animal die of ehthylene glycol toxicity?
                                          It is painful and ugly.

                                          Being opposed to employing an inhumane indiscriminate method of pest control, which has every chance of also killing non-target animals is a *very* different matter from being unwilling to kill a raccoon.

                                          My horses mean a great deal to me. Killing every raccoon in sight is not going to keep them from getting EPM, though.

                                          Maybe you should put the golf club away and pick up a couple of good books.

                                          Oh, and I'd pay good money to see you do in a full grown 'coon with your bare hands.

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