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  • Question for owners of Hawk trailers

    Do any of you drive on the highway with the rear dutch doors open? It is very hot where I live during the summer and I want to get as much air back there as possible but I'm not sure those plastic clips (that hold the doors back) are meant to withstand the air pressure when driving on the highway. In hindsight I should have ordered the dutch doors with the windows.

    What do you do?
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    I do it.
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    • #3
      We have windows, but choose to drive with the doors pinned open anyway. It is definitely too hot to do otherwise. Also, our clips are not plastic, they are metal. But they are designed to be held open during driving, or at least that is what our dealer told us.
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      • #4
        I drove with the doors pinned open often on the highway for three years.

        And then my upper hinge tore off on the highway coming home. This was not fun. This was not safe. I could not get it off and I could barely keep it on. A kindly motorist stopped and the two of us wrestled it basically into place and I lashed it in using the window grill and lead ropes tied to the butt bar to get home. My dealer fixed it right up--the weld had ripped right off.

        I now simply REMOVE the doors in late spring and put them back on in fall.
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        • #5
          Do what EiRide said: remove the top doors rather than trusting the latches or the hinges to hold against the air pressure and movement created by leaving them open.

          The literature I got with my Hawk specifically says NOT to travel with the top doors latched open -- it is not safe and the equipment is not designed for this. I always open the top vents facing forward to act as scoops to draw air into the trailer and have all the windows open. The inside of the trailer has not been any hotter when I first arrive than the general outside air. If the trailer has to stand for more than a few minutes, then there will be heat build-up due to the lack of air flow. That's when I open top doors and people doors.

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          • #6
            They aren't designed to stay open during driving - everyone does it (except me and a few others). I wouldn't risk it - I have a Kingston and the dealer I bought it from specifically told me to NOT leave them open when on the road as they aren't designed for that and can't take the pressure.

            Like others have mentioned - safer to just remove them for the summer.

            (not to mention the fact that we had a pony flip out the back of a trailer when we were stopped back in the late 70's when they just had the curtains that came down - she broke her neck and died right there... so I will always drive w/ mine closed...)
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            • #7
              Some trailers are built to haul that way, some are not.
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              • #8
                I prefer them closed but sometimes it's just too hot. Never had a problem. I have a 2010 model and my hinges are metal, not plastic, was the same with my last 1995 model.

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                • #9
                  I have a '08 Hawk, no windows on the rear doors. I always trailer with them closed. I believe that it is a law in my state that it is illegal to trailer with doors open if the trailer has doors that are able to be closed. But I still would keep them closed. I don't find it any hotter inside, I have the front windows, bulkhead window, overhead vents, escape door windows and rear side windows. there is lots of airflow with out crazy back drafts that cause the hay and shavings to blow around. Most often the trailer is cooler than the outside air with the insulation and airflow. And I have a gelding that is a big, stinky, sweating boy...if it's hot, he will sweat. he comes off cool and comfy even on a summer day in traffic on the Garden State Parkway.

                  I did have an acquaintance that lost her pinned-back-open door on a major highway last year. Very scary for the motorist that was behind her. Luckilly no one was hurt.
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                    #10
                    Thanks everyone for your opinions! I have an 09' Hawk and I checked the pins this morning and they ARE metal (I don't know why I thought they were plastic) but the whole design just doesn't seem sturdy enough to keep open on the highway for long trips. I too remember reading the manual that Hawk doesn't recommend doing it. After hearing some of your stories, I can see why.

                    So how do you take the top doors off? Do you just remove the hinges and the door? Is there anything special I need to know how to do it?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ryansgirl View Post
                      (not to mention the fact that we had a pony flip out the back of a trailer when we were stopped back in the late 70's when they just had the curtains that came down - she broke her neck and died right there... so I will always drive w/ mine closed...)
                      Agree that it is NOT safe to trailer this way. I've heard of other fatal accidents due to trailering with the curtain doors open.

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                      • #12
                        I have a '10 Hawk and the one before that was an '01. Same rear dutch doors. I never felt comfortable on the highway with the doors open...I'll drive a short distance and up to 45-50mph with them open but anything more and they are closed. I do have windows though, glad I got them.

                        In addition to wind pulling on the hardware I am afraid my horse might get scared if a big truck comes roaring up from behind. He loves his trailer and I want him to feel safe, keeping the top doors shut on the interstates helps I think.

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                        • #13
                          I have a Trail-Et that is pretty much the same design and I'll haul a few minutes down the road (no freeway) with the top doors pinned open, but that's it. I'm a little worried that on the freeway, stuff might get tossed up from under the trailer/truck and into the trailer. Maybe not a realistic thing, but it seems possible to me. I never really thought about the doors tearing off until reading this thread, but now I definitely won't try it! It doesn't get all that hot here, and I do have the windows on the back doors that I can open.

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                          • #14
                            Knowing how accomodating the Hawk company is, you could easily replace the top doors with ones with windows or even have them make doors from expanded metal screening for ventilation that you could put on in the summer.
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                            • #15
                              Curtain doors closed all the time!

                              I can speak from experience on this issue, never drive with the rear doors open on your trailer. I own a fabulous young horse who would not be with us today if I had my rear curtain doors opened. My horse suddenly freaked out over god knows what! by the time I pulled over he had the butt bar completed broken at the weld and the rear ramp so badly damaged it was blown out at the hinge on one side. I can say he had nothing but a scratch on him. When I got home and further examined the trailer it turns out he was bucking or kicking so high that there were hoof prints and dents on the curtain door. Had I had the curtain door opened he would have bucked out the back broken both legs and probably killed himself. If you have a fairly new trailer they are made with plenty of roof vents and windows that you don’t need the extra ventilation of the rear curtains opened.

                              I had a fan installed in my trailer which also helps with moving the air but I have used it all of twice in four years and that was to sit in the shade at a horse show and keep the humans cool the horses were fine

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                              • #16
                                I would not travel on the highway with the doors open- even though the clips *may* be able to withstand the forces for a while.

                                My doors are easy enough to take off and we've done so for local non-highway hauling to the trails.

                                If I keep all the windows and vents open- it's not too hot but I'm thinking of adding a fan though. I don't know how it's going to be when temps hit the upper 90's.

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