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Reforming the Runaway Horse

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  • Reforming the Runaway Horse

    Just wondering what tactics people have tried and looking for scenarios/advice. This horse didn't do this in the past but he went out for a lease and came back with this issue.

    When I have worked with horses in the past, I have trained with the philosophy of "make the right thing the easiest option for the horse to choose" and it has worked for me.

    In the past (with other horses) I have used the method of disengaging the hind end when the horse gets too strong, basically turning him in several tight circles to slow him down and then put the horse back on the rail. He figures out that the only way to get anywhere is to do it my way, or else we just stick in one spot doing a bunch of tiny circles with his nose to my leg. Some kicking is usually also employed in the circles just to make them more annoying to the horse and to speed his hind end around those quick circles.

    I think this horse is going to need something more serious.

    I know people that have utilised the pushing the horse longer and faster method and was thinking about giving this a try. If the horse bolts, push him faster, when he wants to stop or slow down, keep pushing him to go on. Basically after a few lessons this way the horse starts to think that running is maybe not the best idea, sticking to a nice easy trot is the easier option.

    I know a lot of people here work with TBs off the track and maybe have encountered this issue before. This is not an OTTB but there is some TB blood in him, but with the wealth of knowledge on this forum I would really like to see feedback on what has worked, and why it has worked, for others.

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    Wel, it depends. Is he just trying to run off, or is he a true bolter? If he is just trying to run off, you can usually help, by reprimanding him BEFORE he actually takes off. If you feel him start to tense up, or try and speed up, circle. For horses that like to take off, I like to give them plenty to do. If you have to put him in a round pen before you ride, do it, but give him work, don't make him just run around in circles for 30 minutes. Lots of school figures, trotting poles, and trails - up hills, preferably. Of course, I would also check the tack, and the soundness of the horse.

    Now, if he is a true bolter....that is another story. Case in point. I took a very nice 3 year old paint in to be started. The first 30 days were a breeze. I trail rode him on his 4th ride, and even loped him up some hills. He was just a dream to start. Then after about 30 days he started bolting. He never got quick - it was always out of the blue, total runaway. Those types are dangerous, because they totally loose their head when they do that. Not only was he bolting, but he would always end up running into the arena rail, no matter what I did. After I cracked my ribs on the rail, I called the owner and told her she either needed to call an exorcist, or a vet. Thankfully she went with a vet. This horse had shown NO soundness issues at ALL, but I told the vet I knew something was wrong. He watched the horse trot, and he didn't even see anything. Then he flexed his hind leg and the horse was crippled. The vet called the next day and said that the Xrays of his hock was the worst he had ever seen in a 3 year old. He had apparently injured it as a yearling, and it just never healed.

    Thankfully we got him servicably sound on the flat, and after a lot of therapy he never bolted again. However, I shudder to think what would have happened if his bolting had been mistaken for a behavior issue.

    So, long story short, make sure your horse is sound, with proper fitting tack, before you move on to behavior fixes.
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    • #3
      First get a vet check and chiro. We had one come back from lease that was a mess, bucks, runs out after a jump, etc. He was a point and shoot jumper. She jumped him in a too narrow saddle while yanking on the poor guys mouth. We checked on him, saw what was going on and picked him up. So, who knows what happened to yours while out on lease.

      We retrain OTTBs and, if we have one that wants to run, he runs until we say stop. We also train for one rein stop, but if they're going too fast...not a good idea. As Freebird said, give him plenty to do. We usually keep ours working in the round pen or smaller paddock for a while to minimize running off.

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      • #4
        I vote for if he wants to run... RUN... make His Idea YOUR idea. Soon the horse "gets" that it's not so good to give you ideas lol Although it's wise to rule out unasoundness first.
        If i'm posting on Coth, it's either raining so I can't ride or it's night time and I can't sleep.

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        • #5
          Teach the horse what WHOA means. Do it in a round pen or on the longe line. I had a QH that bolted and ran as soon as I put my foot in the stirrup. The former owner's grandchildren taught her to do that.
          I taught her whoa and she still did it.
          I put 1 inch cotton rope hobbles on her and let her bolt. She went down on her nose and her knees and when she did, I said "whoa". After the second time she figured that this was not a graceful way to lie down.
          I never had any problems after that. Whe I said "whoa" she slid to a stop no matter what she was doing.
          I never had to saw on her mouth or anything rough like that. She figured out that whoa meant to stop right now, no questions asked.
          This fellow has learned this works to get out of doing something he doesn't like to do.
          Make the results of his bolting so bad he doesn't want to do that again.
          By all means check him out for physical problems but I'll bet he pulled this with the lease person and it worked.
          Hope it gets resolved.
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          sadlmakr

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          • #6
            I agree with all previous posters advice.

            My evil pony would wait until we were out of the arena, see an open field, put her head down and BOLT! It seemed to be just the joy of running and I learned the one rein circle stop quickly.

            The new QH tried this several times and would buck me off before I even felt her coil up for the bolt! We spent an entire year lunging, lunging for respect. The "You wanna run? I'll make you run" tactic worked pretty well and taught her to balance better at the canter before we even started cantering under saddle.

            Some might take me to task for this, but I taught her "whoa" by bribing her with grass. Every time she'd pull for me to release the reins so she could eat grass, I'd say, "whhooaa". Now she associates "whoa" with stopping & eating.

            When she nudges to grab a bite, it's MY decision. I say "whoa" and allow her head to drop. If I hold tight and say nothing, she keeps going. Also, she differentiates "slow" with "whoa" which is solely for stopping & eating.

            Came in handy when she got loose in the aisle. I said, "whoa" and she stopped dead in her tracks & lowered her head to the concrete floor!

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            • #7
              I have to agree with the folks who advise getting a vet out. My last TB became a bolter. He had so many other behavioral issues that I just attributed it to his attitude. I did the "you wanna run? RUN." approach. He tried to bolt while running and I ended up with a horse on top of me. I've since removed that technique form my repertoire. In the end, I had the vet come look at him, and sure enough, he had some major arthritic changes in his hind left stifle and hock. You couldn't tell he was lame until he was flexed. All in all, the poor guy was pretty generous with me.
              If your guy lunges, I'd advise putting him through his gaits that way, so you can see. The big tipoff for me was when my boy would lift his head to pick up a right lead canter. He did every time. That's when I called the vet.
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