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PSA! Clipping ears/bridle paths

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  • #21
    Last year my horse hit me in the head when I was riding him. I saw stars and had a dent in my forehead. The dr said it was a good thing I had my helmet on. I would have gotten a bloody nose and black eye.

    I got my foot crunched by a baby when I was younger. I had jellies on and my foot blew up. My dad after yelling at me about walking him in jellies took me to the hospital. Foot wasn't broken but I was hobbling for days on crutches. I will wear flip flops when I am driving the trailer. The second I handle the horse boots go on. Yes I do take my boots off to drive the truck.
    Last edited by AppendixQHLover; Jun. 8, 2010, 11:37 AM. Reason: Stars..stairs same thing...(doh)
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    • #22
      Originally posted by seabreeze View Post
      I agree. And when I have made the mistake, I always knew better.



      You are right in that almost anything can be dangerous and that freak accidents occur in many circumstances. However, as Calico mentioned, there are some practices when handling horses that are just bad horsemanship. That doesn't mean freak accidents won't happen even when we go out of our way to do things the correct way, but as with any sport, there are certain safety precautions that are basic to horsemanship.

      One guy many years ago...


      this is one of the 'oh come on' threads.

      People have slipped on rugs and broken their necks, for every one incident with bad outcome there are thouseands of non incident moments doing the same thing. Truth be known 'that guy' might have knicked the horse in the ear...

      Life is enherantly dangerous, you can have it a little safer (but remember even houses catch on fire and people slip in bath tubs) but then you have a lot less life.

      I heard a story about a man - way back when - he got blinded in both eye from being kicked by a draft horse. The studs at the end of the shoe did the deed....I think that warrants a PSA on shoeing....

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
        this is one of the 'oh come on' threads.
        Yeah, for many it is. A lot of us were fortunate to grow up around horses with great mentors (and we still do dumb things sometimes ).

        But some people don't know these things (and I always feel like I have lots to learn), and if this "oh come on" thread benefits them, then so be it.

        That's one of the great things about CoTH...there's so much to learn!
        "We need a pinned ears icon." -MysticOakRanch

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        • #24
          That's one of the great things about CoTH...there's so much to learn!
          One of the things to learn is when a poster is attention seeking versus communicating actual useful information.

          Here's a hint- certain posters can be counted on to do the former and almost never the latter!

          My farrier sent someone to the hospital last week. He had just set the nail in a front shoe on a horse who had never been shod before, and had not had time to cut the clinch yet. The owner, who was standing in the usual safe spot, to the side of the shoulder, was cut from kneecap to hip by the end of the nail when the horse suddenly decided to stretch and strike out with his front hoof- the end of the nail tore a 15 inch long, inch wide, deep cut right through breeches, skin and muscle. My farrier is very careful. The owner is an experienced horsewoman. Manure happens.

          So here's my PSA- be very very careful working around horses! Should I post it every day do you think?
          "The Threat of Internet Ignorance: ... we are witnessing the rise of an age of equestrian disinformation, one where a trusting public can graze on nonsense packaged to look like fact."-LRG-AF

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          • #25
            There are PSA's about fire safety etc all the time.... If it saves one life, it was worth it. There are people that don't know or need to be reminded because we do tend to get comfortable.

            I read something years ago that I still practice today - - wear a hat. Even a base ball hat.. the rim will give you that extra few seconds to move away if somthing is coming at you (such as a horse head).....

            I used to body shave and show clip for a living as a young person - - I used my arms as a indicator - kind of like a boxer - - to keep the horse at a certain place, measure the distance.... felt if the horse was coming closer. I had a very experienced horse woman once watching me shave one of her horses and she said it was like watching someone performing an art... I moved in a certain pattern and direction... I never realized I did this until she noticed.. lol....
            Live in the sunshine.
            Swim in the sea.
            Drink the wild air.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by CatOnLap View Post
              So here's my PSA- be very very careful working around horses! Should I post it every day do you think?

              put it in your signature, in fire enegine red type!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by doublesstable View Post
                There are PSA's about fire safety etc all the time.... If it saves one life, it was worth it. There are people that don't know or need to be reminded because we do tend to get comfortable.

                I read something years ago that I still practice today - - wear a hat. Even a base ball hat.. the rim will give you that extra few seconds to move away if somthing is coming at you (such as a horse head).....

                I used to body shave and show clip for a living as a young person - - I used my arms as a indicator - kind of like a boxer - - to keep the horse at a certain place, measure the distance.... felt if the horse was coming closer. I had a very experienced horse woman once watching me shave one of her horses and she said it was like watching someone performing an art... I moved in a certain pattern and direction... I never realized I did this until she noticed.. lol....

                I think that is called body awareness

                Some people have it, others couldn't get it even when you hit them over the head...

                For those who have not had the pleasure of lifelong horsemanship, here is a PSA for you: A horse is not a robot.

                yeah, and 'Poop happens' ought to be one, too.

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                • #28
                  OTOH...I heard a story on the news (CBC so it must be true ) about a year ago about an elderly Standardbred trainer who regained vision in his blind eye after getting clocked in the head by one of his horses....

                  Lost vision in one eye during the war (can't remember how...) and somehow regained it after getting bonked in the head.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Mozart View Post
                    OTOH...I heard a story on the news (CBC so it must be true ) about a year ago about an elderly Standardbred trainer who regained vision in his blind eye after getting clocked in the head by one of his horses....

                    Lost vision in one eye during the war (can't remember how...) and somehow regained it after getting bonked in the head.
                    He needs to get it pattented!

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                    • #30
                      In general, if you think a thread is stupid or a waste of your time, don't read it ...

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Mozart View Post
                        OTOH...I heard a story on the news (CBC so it must be true ) about a year ago about an elderly Standardbred trainer who regained vision in his blind eye after getting clocked in the head by one of his horses....

                        Lost vision in one eye during the war (can't remember how...) and somehow regained it after getting bonked in the head.
                        Now that's amazing!!!!

                        That said, I don't know how to even begin to explain to visiting friends and relatives the body awareness I always have around horses. They can't fathom how far a horse can reach to kick at a fly or how much it will hurt if the horse suddenly looks over to the left and you are not prepared and your head is in the way. After plenty of my own small incidents of being bonked, I always keep a hand, elbow, shoulder or hip somewhere between me and the horse, where I can feel or correct any sudden movement on their part.

                        PS - A local woman died falling down the stairs a couple weeks ago, too. And our stairs have a dent in the wooden post at the bottom where my shin once stopped my fall. That hurt for a long time. I hate stairs.

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                        • #32
                          Originally posted by Meshach View Post
                          In general, if you think a thread is stupid or a waste of your time, don't read it ...

                          Well, I opened it and started reading, expecting some insight on the how-to's on clipping...

                          (and some stupid requires a rebuttle)

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                          • #33
                            I've given up on stupid relatives. Now I nod and smile and mention that, alas, I need to take the dogs for a walk, and skip merrily outside.

                            One time I was getting a young horse out of the pasture and I didn't see the higher-on-the-pecking-order horse on the other side of him who made a big snarky face at the youngster while I was putting the halter on the youngster. Youngster spun his body to avoid the more dominant horse, slamming his head into my head. I actually saw little birdies flying in a circle around my head that you see in cartoons sometimes. Wheeeee! At time time I was doing weather on television, so I got to explain on air why I had two black eyes. Huge fun.
                            http://www.camstock.net/

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by Meshach View Post
                              In general, if you think a thread is stupid or a waste of your time, don't read it ...
                              I, too, expected some neat revelation on how to do either of them, better.

                              not an OMG ponees eez skaayWEE.


                              Like, who knew?

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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                                I think that is called body awareness

                                Some people have it, others couldn't get it even when you hit them over the head...

                                For those who have not had the pleasure of lifelong horsemanship, here is a PSA for you: A horse is not a robot.

                                yeah, and 'Poop happens' ought to be one, too.

                                When ever this subject comes up I think of the movie Dirty Dancing.... "this is my dance space and this is yours".....

                                Even a robot could run you over if someone else is controling it.

                                Love the PONY is a four letter word.. that's a good one.

                                And on some super great advice about body shaving = PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT.
                                Live in the sunshine.
                                Swim in the sea.
                                Drink the wild air.

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                                • #36
                                  Originally posted by Camstock View Post
                                  At time time I was doing weather on television, so I got to explain on air why I had two black eyes. Huge fun.
                                  is it on youtube?

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                                  • #37
                                    Ok, I'll fess up.

                                    I'm someone who started handling horses as an adult. No pony club, a decent amount of lessons, but I know enough to know I don't know as much as I'd like. I think I am mostly pretty safe, but reading this thread, I think, "I don't know."

                                    Have only been stepped on a couple times, never been kicked, and have avoided any ground handling injuries, even though I hand grazed a stallbound TB mare for a year. That has to be good for something, it wasn't only luck that I didn't get killed, and I did see her belly more times than I wanted to. ;-)

                                    So, can anyone recommend to me a CONCISE list of rules and practices for avoiding getting bonked or stepped on or kicked when handling a horse on the ground, grooming, leading, etc.?

                                    Do not send me to the pony club manual. Do not send me to 3 different books and an oracle on top of a mountain.

                                    Give me, if it exists, terse guidelines that, short of wearing kevlar whenever I am inside of 100 feet of a horse, will make me a sensibly safe horse handler.

                                    Thanks.
                                    I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
                                    I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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                                    • #38
                                      I'd love to give you a concise list, but the worst scare I ever had was when I was hand grazing a horse, standing in the exact right place, with all the right equipment, and a cow spooked him, and he turned and ran flat over me. I'm not sure I know what the rules are anymore.

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                                      • #39
                                        SmartAlex, that is what my scientists call an edge condition, something that doesn't happen very often.

                                        You can't prevent everything. I get that.

                                        What I'd like to know is, if someone were going to list 10 - 20 things to always do, to never do, and to always pay attention to. A list that should make a person safe 80-90% of the time.

                                        The point is not to expect to prevent everything. Horses are flight animals that are bigger than us, etc., etc. I just have the feeling that I could use better instructions for basics. I have a good trainer, and I haven't gotten injured in 6 years of handling horses, including some young, dumb, and not so trained horses in suboptimal environments and conditions. But when someone said above to never move under your horses head, I thought, 'Well, shit, I do that every day." And fly season makes me particularly wary about getting kicked. My mare is very kind and sensible, but hates flies, and I think that would a very easy way to get kicked by any horse, is when a horse that is close to you is reacting to flies. But it made me think, that's all.
                                        I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
                                        I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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                                        • #40
                                          Here's my personal list:

                                          #1. Always use proper equipment. i.e. a lead rope (don't just grab the halter because it's easier), safe shoes etc.

                                          #2. Use a chain if necessary.

                                          #3. Gloves are never a bad idea when leading a horse with potential issues. In fact, neither is a helmet if you are doing a training session and expect behavior issues.

                                          #4. Never get down on both knees beside a horse. Heck, don't get down on one.

                                          #5. Don't lean over the head/neck.

                                          #6. Don't duck under the neck in the strike zone.

                                          #7. When crossing behind, speak to the horse and pull the tail down (or hand on hip).

                                          #8. Don't put your head in kicking range, try to face either straight back or straight front when handling hooves and legs.

                                          #9. When working on the hind end, pull the tail towards you to keep the weight on that leg. Makes it harder for them to kick.

                                          #10. Never ever grab the noseband of the halter right in the middle. I've been lifted off my feet this way, and my own weight made it impossible to let go.

                                          #11. Always tie above head height to a solid object with a slip knot.

                                          #12. Never stand right in front of a horse when leading. Stay off the shoulder and be prepared to push the horse away with one hand.

                                          #13. Always tell someone where you are, where you are going, and when you will be back.

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