• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Sun bleaching horse coats?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Sun bleaching horse coats?

    I know sun exposure can cause a horses coat to fade or become bleached out by the sun, but how much can it really change the color? I have a dark bay TB (native) and he goes out 8-10 hours a day, everyday. Someone called him buckskin yesterday and it really threw me off. Here are some before and after pics.

    Thoughts? Stories?


    - After
  • Original Poster

    His neck looks dark in the "After" pic, but I think it might just be the lighting.


    • #3
      i've had dark bays bleach out lighter than that and get stripes on their legs and ears.
      use water based fly spray and fly sheets can help
      chaque pas est fait ensemble


      • Original Poster

        Stripes?! Wow. When I got him he was a rich bay covered in dapples. I dont mind the color change much, just that I've never seen this kind of transformation. I've seen the black horses turn reddish and bays manes and tails lighten. But never a whole body.



        • #5
          I had a dark bay (almost black horse) who by the end of every summer was the color of mustard (spicy brown, not ball park yellow!)


          • Original Poster

            Does the color change bother you? Some people at my barn turn out at night to keep their horses colors, or they just dont let them out at all.

            But if i'm not showing much and it isnt hurting him, why leave him in?


            • #7
              How much? A LOT!

              My mom's QH mare was a dark brown, out 24/7 and would turn a green-buckskin. Think the color of grass in winter; tan but still kinda green. Not a good color on a horse. My new guy is the same color and I'm doing everything I can to keep him dark!
              "Radar, the man's ex-cavalry: if he sees four flies having a meeting, he knows they're talking about a horse!" Cptn. BJ Hunnicutt, M*A*S*H Season 4, Episode "Dear Mildred"


              • #8
                Originally posted by ThatGirlTina View Post
                Does the color change bother you? Some people at my barn turn out at night to keep their horses colors, or they just dont let them out at all.

                But if i'm not showing much and it isnt hurting him, why leave him in?
                If your horse doesnt have a big pink nose (sunburn can be a problem) and has the option of shade if he wants it and you don't care about the color, then by all means leave him out. His winter coat will come in the same dark color it was before. I say what's best for the horse trumps human vanity everytime. And I am from the school of more time out is best for most horses. Night turnout can be a nice option. Depending on your climate it might be cooler with less flies etc.


                • #9
                  My guy is very dark bay/brown, and he does bleach out some no matter how careful I am. I keep a fly sheet with a neck cover on him and turn him out 24/7. The day pasture has lots of shady grazing spots, but only the old mare eats there! The boys graze in the sun and sweat. On the plus side he seems cooler in the light colored fly sheet than our other dark horse who is "naked."

                  Keeping him darker would be nice, but his coat does stay nice and shiny even when he fades a bit. I'd rather have him out as much as possible!
                  ~ A true friend knows all there is to know about you and still likes you. -E. Hubbard


                  • #10
                    My black bay is almost black during the winter and dun colored during the summer.

                    Turning them out when wet appears to speed up the bleaching process.
                    Now in Kentucky


                    • #11
                      My horse is a grulla, and her coat goes through some fairly dramatic color changes because of sun bleaching. When her new coat comes in, she starts out a fairly dark and interesting coffee/gray color. By the end of the season (especially winter) she's blonde as can be all over, and everyone calls her a buckskin. My understanding is that's fairly typical for grullas. Baths after sweaty rides will delay the worst of the bleaching a little (her coat fades out crazy fast wherever sweat has been, if I don't rinse it out thoroughly).


                      • #12
                        I had a dark bay, the color of dark chocolate. At one barn, there was night-only turnout in the summer. She would be in the sun, but not that much (maybe from 6pm to sundown) and retained her dark color with just a bit of bleaching. Then I moved her to a barn with 24 hour turnout and she bleached out to light dun! I actually didn't recognize her, after having been out of town for a couple of weeks.
                        Proud Member: Bull-snap Haters Clique, Michigan Clique, and Appaloosa Clique!


                        • #13
                          Wow he really did bleach out hehe. Prb the most sun he's ever seen in his entire life since training though. Never been a bay loving kind of girl and I will honestly say I do not like him light colored but I wouldn't change his turn out since he's healthy and happy. Soo glad he ended up with you as he is looking fantastic. *hugs and kisses Beautiful Native*

                          I have heard that Kona about the Grullas but I have never known one so its interesting. My palomino mare was a butterfinger color with dapples for the summer and a dappled milk chocolate during the winter. She only dappled during the winter and she was on 24/7 turn out (except to feed and ride) for her entire life.
                          Adoring fan of A Fine Romance
                          Originally Posted by alicen:
                          What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.


                          • #14
                            My dark bay TB is very light by the end of the summer. He lives out and loves it. I wish I could keep him dark bay, but I'd never take away his beloved turnout for that reason alone. I just patiently wait for the winter hair to come in and he's dark again!


                            • #15
                              My brown gelding turns orange if I don't put a sheet on him while outside. The barn help has taken to turning him out very early in the A.M. and bringing him in before the sun gets high, so that helps.

                              My mare is brown, almost black actually, and she doesn't bleach AT ALL. She can stand out all day in the blazing sun and doesn't turn a hair. Can't figure that out.


                              • #16
                                How funny that this thread hit today because I was pondering this very issue today on the commute home from work.

                                I'm a sucker for a dark bay and, natch, have two. One is a big gelding who landed in my lap when the owner couldn't pay his bills, the other is the filly I bred (EventerJ has her dam). Neither of them has one single white hair. Perfect! I just love a dark bay!

                                I spray them for bugs but wonder about good alternatives for SPF. Fly sheets aren't practical due to the nature of my boarding situation. I prefer to turn them out for the night when the days are hot, but have to keep a close eye on the weather because there are no sheds in their paddocks.

                                Last Friday night I waxed and waned about whether or not to leave them out all night. At least twice last week storms were predicted that didn't materialize. So, I took my changes on Friday. I got a call from the BO around 2:00 a.m. The storm had hit and she and her husband had attempted to bring two of the horses into the barn but, once a clap of thunder materialized, my 2 y.o. filly broke away and her pasture buddy ran out of the barn and they both disappeared into the night. Fortunately they weren't running in traffic, but they were in and out of woods and BODH spotted them with his huge spotlight about 1/2 mile from the barn and spent over an hour flushing them back towards the barn.

                                By the time I got there, the storm was in full force and I stood in the middle of it with lightening and thunder and driving rain and didn't give any of that a thought!I started calling for my baby and the BO later told me that as soon as she heard my voice she started to run for the barn! Aww! (love that girl)

                                It was about an hour before they were driven back to the barn. They were SO GLAD to be home!

                                The upshot is that neither of them had a mark on them. Imagine this: running through recently plowed fields, hedgerows, woods...Nobody stepped in a hole, nobody got cut up. Lucky me! I guess we can't encase them in bubble wrap?