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Kieran speaks! ...to an Animal Communicator

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  • Kieran speaks! ...to an Animal Communicator

    Someone up at the barn scheduled this animal communicator lady to come talk to some of the horses and I figured, what the hey, right? And got in on it. Some of it I believe was cold reading but some of it...I'm not sure where she got the idea from, you know? Anyway, it was interesting, I've always wanted to see what one would say about Kieran.

    So, she talked to several other horses first and then I went and got Kieran out of his stall and brought him down the aisle to her to munch on some hay while we talked. One of the first things she said about him is that he likes to have fun and kind of...not joke around, but it's sort of that personality (I don't remember the precise wording). She said he thinks I need to lighten up and not worry so much and that if we do more fun, ridiculous kind of stuff, he'll agree to work harder. (but that I might have to remind him from time to time of that promise). She said while he wants me to 'lighten up', he also needs me to help keep him grounded because he can be kind of head in the clouds. She said he'd pretty much do anything for me (or at least try to do what I want).

    She also mentioned something about how he likes to smash things with his feet. Something about smashing. I have no idea where that one came from because I've not witnessed it. She suggested he might want a pumpkin to smash or something like that, and then eat it.

    She said he liked the ball (we've tried to get him to play with a jolly ball a few times, which she did not know) and that he wants a BIG ball.

    She said he's very sensitive and while of course he likes praise, I could really hurt his feelings if I reprimand him too harshly.

    Uhm, what else?

    She said he likes to know how many "lessons" we're going to be doing. Like I should tell him this is the first of eight. I didn't clarify if she meant like, lesson sessions (since other people ride him from time to time) or if she meant like...things I'm going to teach him in a given session but I'd imagine the latter. He also thinks we work for too long (hah) but that he thinks I'm a good teacher.

    I asked if he thought he'd like to try jumping and she said no, he didn't think so, he didn't think it was very fun.

    I asked where he wanted to be itched and she said she was getting image of him shaking his leg like a dog and like I should try around the inside of his hocks. She also asked who had been scratching the insides of his ears (one of the other girls in the barn, apparently) and she said he said that he wanted her to do it more lightly (she has artificial nails).

    Uhm, she brought up that he liked playing in water and liked standing in the deep water.

    I asked how he was feeling and she said she felt like she was sick to her stomach and wanted to throw up (and asked if he had been throwing up. I'm not sure if that was a put on or if she doesn't realise horses don't throw up). Anyway, he has been having a bit of an upset tummy (diarrea) so that followed with a conversation about probiotics and if pumpkin would work the way it does for dogs.

    Hanna, the barn manager, asked what was up with him every morning (she specifically didn't say what she was really asking) and he said something about she needs to stop changing the routine. Which, she said that they don't. And it was something like...he doesn't want to be brought in last, or near the end.

    The issue is: they typically let the horses come in one at a time on their own from the pasture and most every horse knows where their stall is. Apparently Kieran NEVER goes to the right spot. He either goes to the wrong stall, wanders down the other aisle, wanders up to the house, whatever. I think he knows where to go but just chooses not to go there.

    She said he was like a boyfriend for me (hopefully not in the "ew" sense) and the love of my life.

    Oh, and I asked her to ask him what happened with the people he was with before me. (we got the feeling that they were a bit afraid of him and we've never been able to figure out why) The AC said she was getting an image of like...a racehorse and like maybe they were trying to run him too much or something. That really was inconclusive as, as far as we know, they didn't really ride him. There was also something about it being "like trail riding, but more" which I guess she might have been getting at foxhunting but he's never been. So I don't know.

    Oh, she says he likes going trail riding and not so much working in the ring.

    But the thing she focused on mainly was that he wants to do more fun things and that I need to lighten up and just have more fun with things.

    The horse in question: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs311...._1015674_n.jpg
    The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
    Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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    Not sure I believe in animal communicators, but your horse is absolutely adorable!!!!

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      #3
      Hah, I'm not sure I do either, but it was definitely an interesting day!

      I did think it was cool how she picked up on the ball and the water things since, I guess...unless she knew ahead of time she was going to talk to me and looked me up online...there's not much a way she could've picked that out of thin air. (and how many people play with balls with their horses?)
      The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
      Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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      • #4
        I'm undecided myself on animal communicators, but that was a seriously cute post, and an even cuter pic! What an adorable boy!!

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        • #5
          OMG-- I LOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF Him! SO cute!
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          • #6
            Looks like a horse who wants to have fun to me! I say go for it.

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            • #7
              Oh' he's just so cool looking!!!
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                #8
                Thanks guys, I do <3 him.
                The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                • #9
                  Who was the animal communicator?

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                    http://www.spiritpaws.com
                    The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                    Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                    • #11
                      He has excellently large feet. Perfect for smashing things. You should get him a pumkin, or better, a watermelon. A horse pinata. He also might like some deep water to paw in.
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                      • #12
                        Claims of some sort of ability to "communicate" with animals besides the normal senses is the triumph of wishful thinking and romance (and greed and gullibility) over science and good judgment. Kind of like the old Psychic Hot Line (remember "...call me NOW!" in a lilting Caribbean accent ). It went bankrupt. I mean, how can a psychic hotline go bankrupt?????

                        Stories of “success” with these characters are highly questionable, as there is never any sort of objective fact to back up the claim. Listening to them is kind of like imagining the Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote deliver a lecture on the Theory of Gravity.

                        Or, to put it another way (and paraphrasing Bugs Bunny) the laws of physics apply to all of us, even if we’ve never studied Law or Physics.

                        If folks want to spend their money on bunk and hokum as an entertainment then God Bless ‘Em. But to suggest that there is any demonstrable validity to the claims of “animal communicators” is to be massively bamboozled.

                        G.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Guilherme View Post
                          Claims of some sort of ability to "communicate" with animals besides the normal senses is the triumph of wishful thinking and romance (and greed and gullibility) over science and good judgment. Kind of like the old Psychic Hot Line (remember "...call me NOW!" in a lilting Caribbean accent ). It went bankrupt. I mean, how can a psychic hotline go bankrupt?????

                          Stories of “success” with these characters are highly questionable, as there is never any sort of objective fact to back up the claim. Listening to them is kind of like imagining the Roadrunner and Wiley Coyote deliver a lecture on the Theory of Gravity.

                          Or, to put it another way (and paraphrasing Bugs Bunny) the laws of physics apply to all of us, even if we’ve never studied Law or Physics.

                          If folks want to spend their money on bunk and hokum as an entertainment then God Bless ‘Em. But to suggest that there is any demonstrable validity to the claims of “animal communicators” is to be massively bamboozled.

                          G.
                          But it's fun! Who cares? OP even said she's not 100% sure she believes in it or not. But it's still entertaining. Like getting your fortune told. Do I believe it? Probably not. Is it fun? Yep!
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                          • #14
                            I hired an AC...via PHONE...and I have to tell you that while I entered into it as an "entertainment" thing, I was actually quite surprised at the accuracy.

                            All the AC asked for was my horses' names. (and dog...she did all three)

                            Unless she was an avid reader of a pretty obscure bulletin board (not COTH) there's no way she could've been so bloody accurate.

                            I recorded the conversation so that I could go back and see if she asked me pointed questions...she did not.

                            And yet, she pin pointed some issues that are medically documented and were of concern. She also alerted me to some issues that I was unaware of. It turned out that while my instructions were to feed X, my horses were getting Y. I had NO idea until that call. I confronted the BO's only to find that what she said was true.

                            She actually helped me. A lot.
                            A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                            Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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                            • #15
                              BuddyRoo-I'd really like to know who you used if you could PM me-I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is full.

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                              • #16
                                A friend used a woman named Lydia Hiby for her horse. I was skeptical but the results were impressive. Woman knew nothing about the horse or my friend by gave very detailed info, such as the horse had come from Washington state and hated the cold there (she'd purchased him in WA the year before) and that he thought coming to my friend was "a done deal" and that he was her "therapy horse." My friend was trying to place this horse for adoption, and often quipped "he's my therapy horse."

                                The creepy parts were that the horse "reported" to the psychic that he'd lived at a barn where he was used to "babysit" a white horse. He had lived at my barn for a year, and every day I put him in a pen next to our white horse on stall rest, saying apologetically to him "I'm sorry, but it's your turn to babysit today."

                                The psychic's last comment was that the horse's motto was "One Day At A Time."

                                This is a saying horse's owner holds very near and dear, and says daily, several times a day.

                                It was kinda creepy. Either this woman was reading the horse, or, more likely, she was somehow reading my friend. The info was so detailed that it made your hair stand up on your neck.

                                Other than that, I think a lot of them are a load of hooey!

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by MaybeMorgan View Post
                                  BuddyRoo-I'd really like to know who you used if you could PM me-I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is full.
                                  I apologize...i have room now.
                                  A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                                  Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sublimequine View Post
                                    But it's fun! Who cares? OP even said she's not 100% sure she believes in it or not. But it's still entertaining. Like getting your fortune told. Do I believe it? Probably not. Is it fun? Yep!
                                    Thanks. That is pretty much my opinion. It was fun, and whether she was cold reading us or talking to the horse...well, nothing she said was harmful and it was all fairly affirming and things I could do well to keep in mind ("keep it fun" for instance) so I'm cool with it either way.
                                    The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                                    Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                                    • #19
                                      My good riding buddy has a friend that can do this (she does not do it professionally and does not get paid for it). But she's never met me or my horse and doesn't even live anywhere close by. But has gotten many things very correct. One time we happened to be on our way back from xc schooling and friend was on the phone with her and she mentions that Dexter is telling her how good he's been about the trailer that day... and oddly this was the FIRST trailer ride where he hadn't come off the trailer soaked with sweat. She seemingly really likes talking to him as he has a lot to say and she will call my friend to talk about him lol.

                                      I'm not totally sure I believe it all, but hey... it doesn't hurt anyone and if it can give you some info that MIGHT help why not?!
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                                      • #20
                                        I was excersicing a horse for a friend of mine and she hired an AC to talk to all her horses (8), and when I walked in she was "talking" to the horse I was working. She did not know who I was and no one told her I was his rider. The horse said to her, "here comes my drill sergeant". We had been working circles and figures of 8, apparently he hated it.

                                        I also asked her to talk to my dog, who was afraid of men and mainly my dad. She said that he did not like not being able to see my dad's eyes. I said that is funny, he can see my dad's eyes...But I forgot that my dad has those glasses that change to dark in the sun and once my dad started to take off his glasses when he greeted the dog their relationship was 100% better.

                                        I also had a friend that looked at a picture of my gelding and she said that something was wrong with is left front leg...lower, like in the hoof.....turns out, 6 months later, he developed navicular.

                                        so I do believe that some people have a "gift".
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