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  • Starting lessons...help!

    I'm starting lessons for the first time since I was 11. I'm 24 now. My trainer-to-be has instructed that I should get a couple pairs of breeches and some boots and half-chaps, but here's the sticking point...I've never had to buy breeches or boots/half-chaps, so I have no idea how to size things.

    I wear size 16 pants, and size 7 shoes. Help me?

  • #2
    Get yourself to a tack shop and let the staff help you. Breech sizing is so different mfr to mfr that it's almost impossible to know what to buy without trying things on.

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    • #3
      How often will you be riding? If you're doing once or twice a week, one pair of breeches should be fine — just wash and wear every week or two.
      "Go on, Bill — this is no place for a pony."

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      • #4
        agreed to go try breeches and half chaps on at a tack shop. Paddock boots I've found pretty true to street shoe size across brands.

        However, if you really do have limited access to a good tack shop and online shopping is the only option, just make sure to buy from a retailer that has a good return policy. I like Stateline or Smart Pak.

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          #5
          Yeah, the nearest tack shop is quite a distance. I'm willing to drive it though!

          I'll be riding twice a week.

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          • #6
            Are there any horse shows happening near by? Sometimes there will be a tack and clothing vendor there.

            I couldn't find a tack store anywhere around here, then I realized there's a show at a big farm nearby at *least* once a month and always one or two tack trailers.

            If you can't make it to the tack shop, you can always order multiple sizes of things from SmartPak or VTO and then return what doesn't fit.

            Breeches generally go by waist size, but the fit is very personal and depends on how curvy you are vs. what the breech manufacturer thinks!

            Paddock boots and chaps should be fairly straightforward, your usual shoe size and calf circumference (over breeches!) + height from floor to back of knee.
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            Wendy
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            • #7
              If you have to order online, remember that all brands fit differently. Try breeches that are 4-way stretch, they forgive alot and are easier to fit. If you go to a tack shop, find what you really like, you can call them to order in the future. Paddock boots usually run try to size, unless you have a wide foot or really high arch. Lace paddocks are more forgiving of those. Chaps are usually sold with sizing guides.

              Good luck!

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                #8
                Originally posted by wsmoak View Post
                Are there any horse shows happening near by? Sometimes there will be a tack and clothing vendor there.

                I couldn't find a tack store anywhere around here, then I realized there's a show at a big farm nearby at *least* once a month and always one or two tack trailers.
                Oh! Good idea! Yeah, I live in an area where there's a bunch of big shows every weekend now. I've never seen any breeches when I've been there before, but at least it's a starting point.

                Thanks everyone, I really appreciate it. I can't wait to start riding again!

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                • #9
                  I would not let anyone sell you several pairs of high end show breeches right off the bat. (Believe me, some people will try).

                  I usually recommend On Course Cotton naturals pull-ons, they are machine washable and comfy, and seem to run true to "street" pants size. They aren't expensive (typically around $40), are a good choice to get started. I have a pair in chocolate brown that absolutely refuse to show any dirt.
                  http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=LC-3598

                  The are measured by actual waist size and they have waists up to 36 at Dover (link above). I think a 34 would work for a size 16 but I advise you to actually measure if you're not sure.
                  Last edited by HelloAgain; May. 27, 2010, 07:25 PM. Reason: horrifying your/you're error
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                  • #10
                    If you do check out the tack trailers at showsbe aware, they usually like to bring the most expensive stuff they carry. (They figure that they have a captive audience and if you need something because your breeches tore, you'll pay top dollar. Plus it's expensive for them to maintain a trailer etc to take to shows so they need to see a return.)
                    I agree with the idea of pull on schooling tights. I have the same On Course Cotton's that were mentioned above. I also have a pair of Riding Sport pull ons from the Dover catalog. As a returning rider, you don't need high end breeches. The tights will be fine and if you want to show, then maybe get a pair of higher end pants. Be sure they are machine washable especially if you will be catching, brushing and bathing your horse for lessons.
                    Boots run pretty true to size in most cases. Half chaps might be something you'll want to try on. The trailers at the shows should have some for you to try. If they only have the pricey stuff, try for fir then order online. For a 2x a week rider, you don't need the "best of the best" unless you choose to pay for it. Mid range half chaps should last a good long time.

                    Welcome back to the saddle.
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                    • #11
                      Is the trainer insisting that you ride in breeches? I never wear breeches at home to school. I ride in jeans and half chaps/paddock boots.

                      I'd rather put the cost of breeches towards the cost of lessons, but I hate wearing breeches, so take that with a grain of salt!

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                      • #12
                        And if you're getting started, I've found that cotton blends have a bit more "stick" than others. But everything sticks better - hair, hay, dust......

                        Two pairs for twice-a-week lessons sounds excessive. I'd buy one pair, then ride and figure out if you really like them. Use that info to buy your second pair, if you need another one.

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                        • #13
                          I like Ovation half chaps but they and the boots are best if tried on.

                          Any sort of inexpensive pull on schooling tights should be fine.

                          Enjoy yourself!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Go Fish View Post
                            Is the trainer insisting that you ride in breeches? I never wear breeches at home to school. I ride in jeans and half chaps/paddock boots.

                            I'd rather put the cost of breeches towards the cost of lessons, but I hate wearing breeches, so take that with a grain of salt!
                            I would tend to agree with the istructor; jeans can be stiff (even stretch jeans) and beginners have a hard enough time putting their leg in the right place without pants that are tight around the hip joint getting in the way. And lets not discuss the problems bulky crotch seams can cause when you don't have a steady position (hint: bruises where a lady don't want a bruise.) JMHO.
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                            • #15
                              I agree, all you need are some comfortable knee patch breeches with some stretch (cotton/lycra). I love VTO saddlery, they have cheap shipping and a sale on breeches, $25 a pair!

                              http://www.vtosaddlery.com/
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                              • #16
                                I agree with the recommendation of pull-on breeches.
                                If there is someplace that you can try on breeches, then definitely consider it. I have had some sizing problems with ordering online - the different brands run differently size-wise. If you can't though, call one of the online retailers like Smartpak. A lot of the phone people are very helpful when you don't know a lot about what you are ordering. Also, I am very careful about washing the breeches in a machine. I usually wash them out with Woolite by hand and hang them to dry. Call me a complete slob, because obviously barns can be dirty, but I don't always wash the breeches each time.
                                Enjoy the lessons.

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                                • #17
                                  I don't wash my breeches every time either. What's the point? They're just going to become ridiculously gross the next time anyway :P

                                  I think you would be OK for getting one pair right now and seeing how you like them. The On Courses are GREAT and I love them, but they can get pretty toasty in the summer as they are made of a thicker material. Still my favorite breeches ever though. I really like the Ovation side zip breeches... they are slimming on me and relatively inexpensive (I think I found them from VTO for 40 bucks or so... they might have been on sale, though). When I was a street size 14 I was comfortable in a 34 inch waist, wouldn't have wanted to go any smaller than that... so you might prefer a 36-inch waist if you decide to order from SmartPak, etc. You might also look at TuffRider breeches, they aren't very expensive either and they are super comfy. They aren't as flattering on me, but youo're schooling - who cares!

                                  Good luck!

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by HelloAgain View Post
                                    I would tend to agree with the istructor; jeans can be stiff (even stretch jeans) and beginners have a hard enough time putting their leg in the right place without pants that are tight around the hip joint getting in the way. And lets not discuss the problems bulky crotch seams can cause when you don't have a steady position (hint: bruises where a lady don't want a bruise.) JMHO.
                                    Two words: Wrangler jeans.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Go Fish View Post
                                      Two words: Wrangler jeans.
                                      Gotta say, even though I frequently ride in jeans myself when schooling alone, I require my students to ride in breeches and appropriate footwear (whether that's tall boots or half chaps and paddock boots is up to them). A large part of the reason is simply that I know that stuff designed for riding is at least going to be tolerable. I was also raised with the idea that dedicated riding attire is a sign of respect for the instructor and the sport (I'm old fashioned in that I won't even lesson in anything less than tall boots, nice breeches and a polo shirt!), and a lot of my lesson students ride my horses and thus ride in my tack, and I don't want the extra wear that jeans cause on finer english leather!

                                      OP, I'd say that for 2 lessons a week you probably don't need more than 1 pair of breeches to begin with. Assuming you're riding 2 hours a week, 1 pair with once a week washings should be fine. You can also look at cheaper boot or half chap/boot combos, although keep in mind you may want to upgrade that fairly soon if you're serious about riding. I have to say, though, one of my favorite pairs of half chaps was like $30 at Petsmart!

                                      Fit-wise, it is definitely a good idea to go to a local (or semi-local at least) tack shop and try things on. IME the fit of breeches, boots, and half chaps vary wildly and I personally don't buy anything without trying it on unless I'm familiar with the brand/style and how it fits me.
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                                      • #20
                                        For a size 16 I've found a 34 in the On Course fits pretty good, and I like them for schooling.

                                        You don't want them to be too big, either - if they're too big they'll rub your legs.

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