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  • Info on Leasing & How to Present Horse

    Im looking to half lease out my horse and have found a few potential leasers. He is a great guy 16'2, shown in EQ, Hunters, and 2nd level Dressage. He is sweet kind, etc. And Id really like everyone to be able to see that in him. Now I have a few questions.

    What is customary when it comes to showing the horse? How can I accentuate his looks and show potential leasee the ropes/the real him? What is customary protocol on the day[s] leading up to the visit? I have a general idea but I'd like more suggestions.

    Also, can anyone tell me their experiences with leasing? I'd also love some sample contracts possibly that I could edit with my own touch? Any and all info on leasing would be great. :]
    The Official Name Thread
    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=261959

  • #2
    I leased horses for years before owning my own, and have also part-lease my horse back out to save $$ and get a few days away from the barn for myself. I've had wonderful experiences with leasing (from both sides). Just make sure everything is clear UP FRONT and keep in touch with the person regularly.

    First off, market appropriately. For example, I try to push my gelding as a flat/dressage horse for lease, even though I jump him. He's 14 and I want those legs for ME. I've had good success finding adults who wanted to do mostly flat/dressage. If they wanted to jump a little (once a week), I'd be OK with that - but I was always clear up front that I wasn't leasing him out to be shown every weekend and jumped every day.

    When the person comes, I usually set it up similar to selling a horse. I have him out and clean, but let them help finish tacking (so I can see how they work with him on the ground). I then get on myself for 5-10 minutes to show them how he goes. The potential leaser then gets on to ride for the remaining 15-30 minutes - whatever's needed to let them get a feel for him, and for me to see if I am comfortable with their riding ability. Usually, they stay to help put him away (assuming the riding went well). If I'm not comfortable / it's not a good match, I will say so & politely send them home.

    When I was a kid, my trainer usually made the "match" for me, but I at least got to ride the horse once or twice before committing. I do the same for my gelding - have the potential leaser ride for a short time initially, then usually schedule a second time where they tack/ride 100%. Assuming the second time works well, we do the lease paperwork before they leave that day. If they will be taking lessons (usually something I require), then I'd give them a "test ride" lesson with the trainer too, before committing. However, I state when the decision (& first month's payment) needs to be made in advance, and the horse is still advertised "for lease" until everything's signed.

    I have a lease agreement that I use which I feel comfortable with, and I always have them sign some sort of "waiver" before getting on for the trial as well.

    PM me with your email & I'm happy to send you the lease agreement I use. It's worked so far... (Note: I'm in California so the paperwork is really just to set expectations - wouldn't necessarily hold up in court regardless of what it said. I figure at least *something* is signed, stating all the "rules", payment agreement, etc.)

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    • #3
      I have half leased both of my horses a few times.

      Here are the things I'm looking for with a half lease--my goals may be different than yours.

      1) I want to find someone who knows enough about horses and is a good enough rider that I don't have to be present to babysit. I prefer not to lease to kids...I've done it, it didn't work out so well, and I don't plan on doing it again. So I ask questions in advance about the person's experience.

      2) I want to find someone who is going to ride. The point of me half leasing isn't just about cutting costs. It's about getting my horse some exercise. So I only charge 1/2 board. But I want to make sure the person is pretty commited to riding 3 days or whatever we agree upon.

      What I do is ask questions in advance, then invite the person out. I just tell them "Why don't you come out and meet horse and see if you guys click." Then I have them come out, groom, tack up and ride. If it goes well, I usually have them come out one or two more times while I'm there before I sign an agreement.

      I personally haven't tried to "sell" my horse. I'm not charging big bucks for a competition horse though. I'm just trying to find a good fit.

      I do have a sample contract I could send you if you PM me your email.
      A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

      Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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        #4
        Thank you guys!
        More info welcome.

        Check PMs also.
        The Official Name Thread
        http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=261959

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        • #5
          Please be sure you are very clear on what you want from a lease. Be clear on what days are available for riding, if the horse can be shown. If this is a half lease, be clear if you want them to clean your tack, wash your saddle pads, what they can use and what they can't. Also let them know who exactly can ride (maybe just them and a trainer). Lots of communication up front is very important. I've half leased and leased several horses, and I find that getting everything clear in the beginning makes it all run smoothly!

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          • #6
            I currently am leasing my horse out for the summer to a great kid going to college in the fall. He's also actively for sale. For both - finding a leasee and someone to buy the horse - the "rules" should be the same.

            "What is customary when it comes to showing the horse? How can I accentuate his looks and show potential leasee the ropes/the real him? What is customary protocol on the day[s] leading up to the visit? I have a general idea but I'd like more suggestions."

            To be fair to the leasee you want the horse to be acting like himself. So, whatever you normally do, continue to do it. If he goes out every day, don't leave him in. If you always lunge before getting on, do that.

            There are different opinions about whether the horse should already be clean when you come out to see him. Personally, if I'm looking at a horse, I don't want the horse to be caked in mud, but I want the opportunity to brush him, pick out his feet, etc, so I can see how he acts. When someone's coming to see my horse, I go to the barn early and make sure he's decently clean, but I make sure to put him back in his stall before they come. This way, they can see his manners being led, and in his stall.

            You should ride first and put him through his paces. If you have him advertised as jumping, then jump him. If you say he does counter-canter, show that. Don't ride him to death but show the leasee that he can really do everything you say he can. And explain everything you are doing (eg, "I start off riding him on a loose rein to help him come over his back"). Because you will be riding him less than normal before letting someone you don't know (and don't know their riding abilities) on him, I may lunge the horse first, even though I don't normally do this. Safety is paramount. It also allows the person to see how he moves naturally.

            His show record will speak for itself.

            Overall, be honest. You will be dealing with this person on a daily basis. Also, because this person will be sharing the horse with you, make sure they're not going to undo his training, so that you have miserable rides. Maybe its a requirement that they have 1 lesson a week either with you or your instructor. Maybe have a 1 week trial period because neither you nor the potential leasee can tell much from 1 ride. You want this to work for all 3 of you (you, leasee, horse).

            Remember that there is a lot of liability involved in someone else riding your horse. Definitely have a contract. Have in that contract an indeminity clause that absolves you and the barn of harm if anything were to happen. Equine.com has a contract that you can use.

            Good luck.

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