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  • Blazers - what can you tell me about them?

    And no I'm not talking about the Chev SUV.

    I recently saw an ad for a horse for sale called a Blazer. It sounded like what I want but the horse is too far away - the shipping will be at least double the cost of the horse. So I started looking closer to home ... and I can't find them.

    Other than a small breed assn website there is not much info out there and they're not even listed as a breed on equine.com .

    So does anybody know anything about these guys and can you fill my brain with knowledge and experiences? Please...

    Thanks!
    Sometimes I just think funny things - Dudley Moore in Arthur
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  • #2
    Hadn't heard of them before but did find the breed website with a list of
    breeders, one of whom is in Michigan which is pretty close to you:
    http://www.blazerhorse.com/Members/ranchdir.aspx

    They sound pretty neat! Good luck in your search.

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    • #3
      The site listed above says all Blazers have to trace back to Little Blaze who, if you can believe All Breed Pedigree, was some sort of QH or QHx:

      All Breed Pedigree Link

      I suspect this is just a variation on the designer breed trend, this time with someone who decided this particular stallion was so special (for whatever reason) that all his offspring should be a breed unto themselves.

      If what you see in the horses appeals to you, you might want to scratch the whole breed search and just focus on finding horses with Little Blaze in the pedigree. They're probably registered as something else (I'd bet QH). That might turn up more options for you.
      She Gets Lost

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      • #4
        mmm... or look at foundation bred QH & Paint.

        Leo San.

        ALL of my favorite "sport" type Paints have been Leo San... (Peppy San etc.) I use foundation Paint lines for sport, because they are generally uphill, with nice neck sets, and very cute, baroque movers. Of COURSE there are the bulldog dowhill ones... but look for working/ranching bred foundation.
        InnisFailte Pinto Sporthorses & Coloured Cobs
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        • #5
          Blazers were "created" a few miles from me, here in in Idaho. The original breeder was known locally for being a bit of a kook. They are fairly common here.

          I have seen a couple that were well put together, but most of the Blazers I have seen in person leave a lot to be desired regarding conformation. Most have had sweet personalities (maybe even a little dull), but they look like they have been made from spare parts. They could just as easily be called the "American Backyard" breed, since that is basically the foundation stock that went into their "creation".
          Sheilah

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          • #6
            They seem like your basic short foundation QH from a specific line. Not sure why they need their own breed... ah, well. I think there's a blaze-faced sorrel registry out there too, so whatever floats your boat...
            "Remain relentlessly cheerful."

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              #7
              Originally posted by IdahoRider View Post
              Blazers were "created" a few miles from me, here in in Idaho. The original breeder was known locally for being a bit of a kook.
              Ha! I've found the GV of the trail riding world.

              What appealed to me the most is what this girl said of the breed temperament. She said she's got a few and they're all very laid back, very easy going, good work ethic types. I figured if I'd be able to find that in a younger horse rather than looking for the older semi retired one.... well I'd have what I wanted for a longer term. A ton of surgeries later (last year was not fun ) I just want quiet and uncomplicated. Oh well.....

              Thanks so much for the insight. I had never heard of them and they sounded interesting.... not majikal but interesting.
              Sometimes I just think funny things - Dudley Moore in Arthur
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              • #8
                I have owned Blazers

                I have personally owned two Blazers. They were geldings my kids bought as 4 year olds.

                My kids and I started both of them ourselves. Within six months they were riding them in 4H meetings and they both did very well at the fair later that year. I would not describe our two as "dull" at all. They were smart, strong, willing to please little guys who couldn't be bullied into anything. Once they trusted the kids they would follow them to heck and back.

                As far as trail mounts, the two we had were wonderful. They were sure footed and trusting of their riders.

                I love this breed and would not hesitate to buy another one.

                The only "problem" we had with our two was that the kids outgrew them. The Blazer breed standard is a short one (up to 15hh?) our two were only around 13.2 hh.

                Here is "Speedy":

                Not too long after we got him, he had some weight to gain still but you can get an idea of typical conformation from this pic:

                http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/S6300020.jpg

                http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...pinner/J-1.jpg

                Jumping - the girl who owns him now (she's not pictured) is showing him WP at local shows this summer:

                http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...image017-1.jpg

                Here are a few pictures of "Spinner". He was sold to a family who trail rides. He is a true "packer" who has 2 young boys that climb all over him.

                My dd riding him at their last fair together - you can see she has outgrown him! That is Speedy in the background.

                http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/IMG_1236.jpg

                This is the best confo pic of him I can find on this computer:

                http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/IMG_1253.jpg

                If anyone is interested in more about the Blazer breed, I would be happy to share more. They are wonderful little horses.

                The breed association has some great people involved who are very active locally in promoting the breed. I have more info if anyone would like it.

                Char

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                • #9
                  I've only met one, but I liked him a lot. He was quite young (4 or 5) but trustworthy enough to be used in a (reputable) therapeutic riding program as he was one of those "born broke" types. As others have said, they are small, not necessarily "sport horse" conformed, tough, and have good brains. They also come in a lot of interesting colors, if that matters. (The one I knew was a bay roan with a lot of white markings.)
                  You have to have experiences to gain experience.

                  1998 Morgan mare Mythic Feronia "More Valley Girl Than Girl Scout!"

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                  • #10
                    quietann, the palomino (Spinner) was that way too. He seemed "born broke" I really regret having to sell him. I would love, love to have had him for a grandkid's horse some day. I have told his current owner to call me if she ever needs to sell...

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                    • #11
                      I also own one. He is an amazing little horse. He is quiet and laid back without being lazy. I use him for both Pony Club and 4H. Last year I qualified in four classes for our state fair. We wound up winning western equitation, getting second in bareback equitation, and getting third in jumping.

                      He was also "born broke". His reaction to being ridden for the first time was kind of like "Oh, you're sitting on me. Okay."

                      Conformation (not the best picture, but it was the best I could find):
                      http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...er/Dream08.jpg

                      On the flat:
                      http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/IMG_1755.jpg
                      Jumping:
                      http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...r/IMG_1059.jpg

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                      • #12
                        Good for you Azar! Congratulations on your successes with him. You do have a super cute guy.

                        What is his name?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SpecialEffects View Post
                          Ha! I've found the GV of the trail riding world.

                          What appealed to me the most is what this girl said of the breed temperament. She said she's got a few and they're all very laid back, very easy going, good work ethic types. I figured if I'd be able to find that in a younger horse rather than looking for the older semi retired one.... well I'd have what I wanted for a longer term. A ton of surgeries later (last year was not fun ) I just want quiet and uncomplicated. Oh well.....

                          Thanks so much for the insight. I had never heard of them and they sounded interesting.... not majikal but interesting.
                          All she's describing is a good ranch-type QH, which is funny cause that's EXACTLY what "Blazers" are. Find yourself one of those...I have one and he's worth his weight in gold, and he's much more athletic looking. Depending on where you are, I'm sure COTHers can point you in the right direction!

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                          • #14
                            Yes a good ranch type QH, would probably work as well for the OP.

                            So would a good Arabian ( I own one who is very quiet and is a wonderful trail horse), a Morgan or many other breeds. Heck, even a Mustang or a fugly grade would work well for a calm trail horse. Each horse is an individual.

                            But I would beg to differ that a good ranch type QH (is)"that's EXACTLY what "Blazers" are." because, they are not.

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                            • #15
                              There are absolutely nice "Blazer" horses out there. I have a friend who has owned one for 10 years and she loves him.

                              There just doesn't seem to be much ability to bred true, in that there is little consistency from one example to another. Perhaps this is because there was a split in the ranks of fanciers? I can't recall all the details, but the "creator" bred anything to anything and called it good. Some of the people who split off from that man were more careful and have actually tried to maintain a credible breed standard. But even with the "good guys", there seems to be a huge variation in conformational quality.
                              Sheilah

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                              • #16
                                It worked out for Justin Morgan - except that little horse bred true down the generations and had qualities that were not available in another breed at the time.
                                Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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                                • #17
                                  Actually, I feel that there is quite a bit of consistency from one example to another, due to the fact that they are all so closely related at this point. Neil (the "creator") did not breed anything to anything, he kept very good records. In my opinion he didn't bring enough new blood in.

                                  Since Neil's death , the association has been taken over by a group of people who have been very conscientious about genetic diversity and have opened the books to a few select breeds for the time being. Is this what you were talking about Sheilah?

                                  Foxtrot, have you seen pictures of the old Morgans? Or old Arabians? Yes you can tell what breed they are, but there was still quite a bit of diversity in their appearances. It took generations of breeding to get them to be what we see today.

                                  Do I think that Blazers are some new majikal breed? No. Are they the new "Morgan" or whatever history changing breed? Who knows? Honestly I don't care.

                                  All I can speak from is personal experience with my two and with a few people (and their horses) who are involved with the Blazer horse association.

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                                  • #18
                                    He is named Dream Catcher.
                                    http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dream+catcher8

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by HeartsongHorses View Post
                                      Since Neil's death , the association has been taken over by a group of people who have been very conscientious about genetic diversity and have opened the books to a few select breeds for the time being. Is this what you were talking about Sheilah?
                                      Yep, pretty much. Many of the people who are working on the Blazer horse now are trying to make improvements that will appeal to the modern horse owner.

                                      My personal dealings with Neil Hinck were not positive and I was not impressed with him, his property or the horses he was breeding. He has only been dead for a year or two, and the last time I heard about him prior to his death was him sending a bunch of horses to auction because there were no buyers and animal control was breathing down his neck.
                                      Sheilah

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                                      • #20
                                        ...actually, I think the 'new' Morgan is not an improvement on the older types.
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