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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by budman:
    Where do you people live that they call criminals (alleged or otherwise) gentlemen? Maybe I've been really blind/deaf for years, but here in Baltimore I've never heard them referred to that way. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    I'm pretty sure this is a West Coast thing that has been migrating eastward. (Wouldn't want to hurt anybody's little feelings, you know - need to be PC all the time, even to "alleged" criminals. Can you tell I'm a native Easterner? LOL)

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    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> BTW I agree about swagger and ALL the stupid adjectives, adverbs, etc. the crowing sportscasters scream about all sports. For me, the sports news segment is the reason to shut off the TV or radio. Nothing more insulting IMO than being screamed at in a vain attempt to "whip up" my spirit over adults playing games. No, I'm not a sports fan but I could tolerate the sportscasters if they didn't act so silly in reporting their "news", raising their voices, chanting, zooming up and down for accents and drama. I guess it's to get attention and I suppose some people actually do get worked up and thrilled with the sports news delivered like this. OTOH for some of us, it's never going to thrill us and is just plain annoying. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      Wow, don't you think this is a little excessive? This goes past grammar or speech and into personal preference... Not many people would want to watch a big clunky horse and a guy with a fruity red jacket run around over big jumps while a boring announcer drones on about "scope" and whatnot.
      (just playing devil's advocate, I love those guys in fruity red jackets )

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      • Okay, here's one that's QUICKLY becoming a major irritation: equestrian.

        Yup, that's right, equestrian. Went to a state park to pick up a trail map. Asked for a map of "horse trails". And the woman at the counter gave me a funny look. Person standing behind her said "oh, you mean like for equestrian"? And woman promptly handed me the map.

        People at work have taking to asking me if I "do equestrian - you know, like in the Olympics"?

        And on NPR this morning, during a discussion of circuses, they mentioned that the origin was like "an equestrian show".

        Am I the only who still believes that an equestrian is a person who is involved with horses in some way?

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        • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>an equestrian is a person who is involved with horses in some way<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
          When used as a noun, yes. It can be used as an adjective, though, as in "equestrian sports."

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          • Equestrian as a noun is a person.

            As an adjective, it means "assosiated with riding horses" as in "equesrian clothing" or "equestrian endeavors".

            The problem is that the Olympics have decided to use "equestrian" as the way they refer to the "equestian disciplines". (The same way they use "swimming".) to refer to all the swimming competitions.)

            So now people who watch the Olympics think "equestirian" is both semantically and syntactically equivalent to "riding".

            I don't know why thy Olympics couldn't have just called it "riding" or "horse riding".

            So now

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            • I thought equestrian was the masculine. Equestrienne is for a lady.

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Janet:
                So now people who watch the Olympics think "equestirian" is both semantically and syntactically equivalent to "riding".
                <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                Which is what drives me crazy. "Equestrian clothing" - yup, got it, clothes for equestrians (or equestriennes . "Equestrian endeavor" - yup, those things that an equestrian of either gender would undertake.

                "Equestrian Show" - I envisioned folks in shadbellies and top hats high stepping around a ring sans horses . . . sigh . . .

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                • We can't just let this thread die, can we???

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                  10. Placing a comma between subject and predicate, is not correct.
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                  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SillyHorse:
                    16. Poofread carefully to see if you any words out. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    oh my god

                    oh my god

                    oh my god

                    spewed all over keyboard

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                    • sillyhorse--

                      that is the funniest thing i have read in a loooong time.

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                      • YAY! I'm so glad this thread is still alive!
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                        • Please forgive me if I haven't read all 34 pages! of the thread yet but my two current peeves are from political ads on the local (DC) radio.

                          1) War-Fighters apparently the term "soldier" is no longer good enough to describe a person in the military, if they're actually in a war zone. What a stupid word, it's why they invented the shorter word "soldier" all those centuries ago!

                          2) Latorals (sp) "Between the deep ocean and the shore lies a dangerous area called the Latorals." Funny. I grew up sailing the "latorals" of NY and New England. Except we called it the COAST! The ad goes on to tout new boats designed to fight in the Latorials. Can't help myself. I just KNOW they're gonna be souped up Boston Whalers!

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                          • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fleur:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>(Leenah's post BTW I agree about swagger and ALL the stupid adjectives, adverbs, etc. the crowing sportscasters scream about all sports. For me, the sports news segment is the reason to shut off the TV or radio. Nothing more insulting IMO than being screamed at in a vain attempt to "whip up" my spirit over adults playing games. No, I'm not a sports fan but I could tolerate the sportscasters if they didn't act so silly in reporting their "news", raising their voices, chanting, zooming up and down for accents and drama. I guess it's to get attention and I suppose some people actually do get worked up and thrilled with the sports news delivered like this. OTOH for some of us, it's never going to thrill us and is just plain annoying. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            (Fleur's responseWow, don't you think this is a _little_ excessive? This goes past grammar or speech and into personal preference... Not many people would want to watch a big clunky horse and a guy with a fruity red jacket run around over big jumps while a boring announcer drones on about "scope" and whatnot.
                            (just playing devil's advocate, I love those guys in fruity red jackets )<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            1. I don't know why this thread refuses to die ... but I am LOFFING it!!! Still!!! Call me crazy!!!

                            2. That said, I have to comment on the quotes above ... as for Leenah's comment, I'm in Boston, and we have a local morning newscaster that is all prim and proper while he's delivering the news with his female co-anchor. Then the time comes for him to give us the sports news, and his alter ego pops out -- he suddenly raises his voice and speaks every other word in a "Boston" accent (or his attempt at it - Nomar Garciaparra (Red Sox player) is pronounced Noomaaaaaaah, etc.). Does he have a split personality? Does he think that because you're interested in sports you could not possibly understand proper pronunciation?

                            3. J. Turner -- I was laughing when I read the quote in your post saying profanity was considered more offensive than cursing in the 1870's. My friend Lynne never would have been accepted in society. Her favorite expression to register her shock, dismay, disbelief, and myriad other emotions is to exclaim, "SWEET BABY JESUS!"

                            4. Sing Mia Song -- thanks for the F*Bomb link. That's quite amusing. I especially like the part where it claims the word is so versatile, variations of it can be used several times in one sentence. I work in the construction industry and can confirm that I've marveled at that fact before.

                            [This message was edited by Flipper K. on Aug. 02, 2003 at 09:55 PM.]

                            [This message was edited by Flipper K. on Aug. 02, 2003 at 09:58 PM.]

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                            • Now that f-bomb link might actually get my students understanding and interested in grammar. Too bad I live in a county that tried to ban all books with profanity in them a couple years ago (including Catcher in the Rye about four years ago). Can we say, "That was sooo 40 years ago!"

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                              • OMGiH, Silly Horse, I thought this thread was dead BEFORE I found your grammar rules!! (Yes, sadly, I am a thread killer). I shall, however, use your rules when I (please God one day before the world freezes over) teach English Lit to hormone-obsesed teenagers.
                                (insecure moment) obsessed looks wrong! OMGiH I can't teach English if I can't spell obsessed correctly. How can I not? I've been obsessed SP?help most of my life....


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                                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>FlipperK wrote:
                                  2. That said, I have to comment on the quotes above ... as for Leenah's comment, I'm in Boston, and we have a local morning newscaster that is all prim and proper while he's delivering the news with his female co-anchor. Then the time comes for him to give us the sports news, and his alter ego pops out -- he suddenly raises his voice and speaks every other word in a "Boston" accent (or his attempt at it - Nomar Garciaparra (Red Sox player) is pronounced Noomaaaaaaah, etc.). Does he have a split personality? Does he think that because you're interested in sports you could not possibly understand proper pronunciation?
                                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                  Yes FlipperK this is EXACTLY what I am referring to, this idea that somehow if they pump up the volume and use an affected manner of delivery, they will get our attention so much more effectively than if they just use a normal speaking voice and delivery. There are several in my TV market as well, probably why I've noticed them.

                                  I guess what really annoys me is that this raised volume and affected accent/delivery is also usually associated with the cheapo commercials we all see. You know, the used car lot owner screaming his deal at you during a break from the Late Late Show or the radio commercials loudly exhorting that you MUST SEE the latest WWF show or Monster Truck show in town this weekend. So when the "professional" newscasters begin this same type of behavior, I find it insulting really that I am being pushed to notice this particular news segment over others by assuming I need to be screamed at or have my ear caught using volume, slang or accents that aren't typcial. I mean the way I see it is if I am a real sports fan, I'll listen no matter what form of delivery they make and I can certainly figure out my reaction and how to do my own cheering or moaning over the news they deliver as it relates to my values.

                                  Does anyone really need a sportscaster to scream jubilantly in his manner of delivery as he announces a win for the home team? Happy, pleased, smile in the voice - yes. Screaming crazy with afected joy - too much. I think the people who care, know how to deal with the report and have their own reaction without being goaded into one as if they are not capable of figuring out how to deal with the news.

                                  Actually now that I write this, I think it is more insulting to the real sports fans to try to influence their response with this cheap drama than it is for the non-sports fans like me. After all I really don't care one way or the other but it's still just plain annoying like the inane screaming volume commercials.

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                                  • YIIIIPPPPPPPEEEEEEEE

                                    Sorry, couldnt resist!! i wanted ot be a part of a 34 long thread!

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                                    • I want to be a part of it too!!!

                                      Sillyhorse: I loved the grammer rules!!!!

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                                      • J. Turner, I've got a wonderful quotation for you to take to your school district:

                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>...dort, wo man Buecher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen
                                        --Heinrich Heine <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        Translation:

                                        Where men burn books, in the end they also burn men.

                                        You hit on one of my all time pet peeves. Good parenting is what makes good kids -- *NOT* "protecting" them from "profanity". Ignorance does no one any good at all, and Shakespeare was as bawdy as they come.

                                        By the way, my mother laughed and handed me Tropic Of Cancer as soon as she finished it, when I was about ten. I'd heard it was a scandal. Mother was right, as usual: after about three pages, I didn't understand it and wasn't interested.

                                        Good luck fighting ignorance in your town. I'm with you in spirit

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                                        • I really didn't think places like this really existed anymore. And our county is partly populated by upper class people "on the island." If you go one county in, Brantley, it so rural, it's unbelievable. I wonder what it's like to live/teach in a county west of Okeefenokee Swamp. I can't even imagine. I try to lead, but it's hard being a new teacher - job security and all. Our northern superintendant just got suspended for insubordination, but the board (elected by our population, but mainly seems conservative Christian) won't tell his lawyers why. He probably approved a book with the word "ass" in it or something - or hired somebody without their approval. They are psycho. Our SPLOST (special local optional sales tax) was voted down mainly because of distrust of the board (before this superintendant (sp?) they got us entirely into debt), and the money was supposed to build new schools since we are way overcrowded. Our high school was built in '72 for 800 and we have 1200. The breezeways in between the buildings leak so when it rains (almost everyday it seems) it rains in the breezeways. Not only that, since the water accumulated on the flat roofs of the breezeways it generally "rains" under the breezeway for about 2 hours after it stops raining outside. Education isn't taken very seriously here. Many of my students will be the first to graduate from high school, but yet we're supposed to teach the same curriculum as the college prep kids, including some of the same books. Crazy. Someone on here has a Bart Simpson quote about the slow class going slower to catch up. I like that. I may use that, too.

                                          I don't think it's been long since people were burned here or in nearby counties.

                                          I'm reading an interesting book now by a local author called "Ecology of a Cracker Childhood."

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