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  • #641
    Opps, posted after reading only page 1, not realizing there were 32 pages!! So now seems OT and probably got brought up on page 3 or so.......DUH!

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    • #642
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> In the original film version of I, Claudius, one scene has the captain of the guards running to Caligula and saying, "My armies are revolting!" (Thank you, Alexander Korda, for hiring Hungarians to write an English language script...) Robert Graves said in an interview about it, "That wasn't the only thing in the script that was revolting!"
      <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

      Well... this sounds wrong, but isn't it grammatically correct? To revolt. The armies revolt. The armies are revolting.

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      • #643
        Yes, but doesn't the word "decapitate" mean literally to remove someone's head? Therefore you couldn't decapitate a toe - so would it be dephalangitate?

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        • #644
          Give the lady a big blue Teddy Bear!

          I hate to say it, Mrs. Mouse, but in the context of this thread, you just had what is commonly called a DUH moment.

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          • #645
            Etymology of Swears

            Among the Chinese, to be called a turtle is the worst possible taunt. In Norwegian, devil is highly taboo, roughly equivalent to our f#$%. Among the Xoxa tribe of Southe Africa the most provacative possible remark is hlebeshako - "your mother's ears." In French it is a grace insult to call someone a cow or a camel and the effect is considerably intensified if you precede it with espece de ("kind of") so that is worse in Frnech to be called a kind of cow than to be called just a cow.The worst insult amont Australian aborigines is to suggest that the target have incourse with his mother. Incest is in fact so serious in many cultures that often it need be implied in only the vaguest terms, as with tu madre in Spanish and your mama among blacks in America. [Okay, it wasn't until I read this book that I understand why that was such an insult - why kids put it or 'your mother wears combat boots' in cootie catchers.] Often national terms of abuse are non-sensical, as in the German schweinehund, which means "pig-dog.

            "Some cultures don't swear at all. The Japanese, Malayans, and most Polynesians and American Indians do not have native swear words. The Finns, lacking the sort of words you need to describe your feelings when you stub your toe getting up to answer a wrong number at 2:00 AM, rather oddly adopted the word ravintolassa. It means in the restaurant.

            "...it is a strange and little-noted idiosyncracy of our tongue that when we wish to express extreme fury we entreat the object of our rage to undertake an anatomical impossibility or, stranger still, to engage in the one activity that is bound to give him more pleasure than almost anything else." [We all know this word.]

            "Most of our swear words have considerable antiquity. Modern English contains few words that would be unhesitatingly understood by an Anglo-Saxon peasant of, say, the 10th century AD but tits is one. So is fart, believe it or not. The Anglo-Saxons used the scitan, which became sh**e by the 1300s and sh** by 1500s.

            "After "OK," f*** must be about the most versatile of all English words. It can be used describe a multitude of conditions and phenomena, from making a mess of something (**** up) to being casual or provocative (**** around), to iviting or announcing a departure (**** off), to being estimable (****ing-A), to being baffled (I'm ****ed if I know), to being disgusted (**** this), and so on and so on.

            Now there's a word I can't mention a'tall here but according Mr. Bryson, it was "once relatively harmless. Chaucer dropped it casually and severally into "The Canterbury Tales," spelling it variously queynte, queinte, and even Kent. ... It wasn't until the early 18th century that the word became indecent. S*** was considered acceptable until the early 19th century. ... in sixteenth-century England, zooterkins was a pretty lively word. In 19th-century England puppy and cad were highly risque."

            He goes on to write that the three worst swear words today are (guess them). "But until the 1870s it was much more offensive to be profane. GD, Jesus, and even Hell were worse than F*** and s*** (insofar as these things are quantifiable.) In early swearing, religion played a prominent role -- so much so that in the 15th century a common tag for Englishmen in France was goddams. Swearing by saints was also common. A relic of this is our epithet by George, which is a contraction for "by St. George" and has been around for centuries. Cock was for a long time not only a slang term for penis but also a euphemism for God. Thus in Hamlet Ophelia could pun: "Young men will do't, if they come to't; By cock, they are to blame." [And our country tried ban all literature with profanity in it three years ago. Guess they would've had to get rid of Shakespeare and Chaucer, too.] Some of these were surprisingly explicit -- 'by God's bones," "by God's body" -- but as time went on they were increasingly blurred into more harmless forms, such as zounds (for "God's wounds"), gadzooks for 'God's hooks,' (the significance of which is obscure0, and God's bodkins or other variations like odsbodikins and gadsbudlikins, all formed from "God's body."

            To keep it animal related at least:
            Refering to the uptight Victorian era,
            'It was an age in which the most innocuous words became unacceptable at a rate the must have been dizzying. Stomach became a euphemism for belly and in its turn was considered too graphic and was replaced by tummy, midriff, and even breadbasket. Teh convention terms for the parts of a checken, such as breast, leg, and thigh, caused particular anxiety and had to be replaced terms like drumstick, first joint, and white meat. The names for male animals such as buck and stallion were never used in mixed company. Bulls were called sires, male animals, and, in a truly inspired burst of ridiculousness, gentlemen cows. ... Euphemisms had to be devised for any word that had cock in it -- haycock became haystack, cockerel became rooster -- and for the better part of a century people with cock in their names, such has Hitchcock or Peacock, suffered unspeakable embarrassment when they were required to make introductions."

            I wonder if horse care books addressed male equine hygiene? Did horse's sheaths ever get cleaned??? Imagine being an elegant sidesaddle riding lady and your horse making that gelding sound. Curious, you ask, "John [the stable boy], what is that sound my dear Dark Star is making?"
            "Well, m'lady Star is due for a sheath cleaning."
            "Sheath? What is a sheath, John?"
            "M'lady, I cannot divulge such information in your presence."
            "John, I cannot go on the hunt with Dark Star sounding like this. You must tell me at once and take care of it." She snaps her whip.
            "M'lady, 'e needs 'is cock cleaned."
            John is promptly sacked.

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            • #646
              My dear Lord Helpus...pppbbbppbpbpbpbpbtttt!!!
              The "dephalangitate" was a joke, believe me, but I did look up "decapitate" and dictionary.com defines it as "to cut someone's head off; behead".
              So my point still stands - you can't decapitate a toe!


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              • #647
                Are you saying you can not cut off the head of the toe? (runs for cover, tries to shield self from inevitable frying pan whack)
                The plural of anecdote is not data.
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                • #648
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrsMouse:
                  My dear Lord Helpus...pppbbbppbpbpbpbpbtttt!!!

                  So my point still stands - you can't decapitate a toe!
                  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  My dear Mrs Mouse... That was exactly my point when I posted the original post -- of course you can't decapitate a toe. That is why I called it a Yogi Berra-ism: It makes no sense while, simultaneously, making sense.

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                  "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism"

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                  • #649
                    Oh, I totally missed your point, LH! Yep, definitely a DUH moment. And I thought I was being so smart pointing out that fact!


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                    Book: If you take advantage of her, you\'re going to burn in a very special level of Hell, a level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater. Firefly

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                    • #650
                      But, in my defense, I have to point out that I thought your original post was making fun of the way your friend said "decapitiate" instead of "decapitate".
                      So I really did have a (sort of) good reason! LOL Okay, shutting up now...

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                      • #651
                        Funny swear tidbit:

                        I spent a summer in Spain a few years ago and picked up some good ones! The most common, meaning more or less "Oh F***" was "Me cago en la leche". Any spanish speakers can figure that out pretty fast, LOL!

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                        • #652
                          J Turner....

                          And Gamulto Malaca to you.

                          Apologies for incorrect spelling. I have never seen it written down. It was a phrase I learned in Greece. I quickly found it that it was to be used sparingly, especially with men bigger than I was...

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                          "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism"

                          Charles Krauthammer speaking about Trump

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                          • #653
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> One can "reiterate", but we don't "iterate" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You may not iterate, but I certainly do.

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                            • #654
                              Regarding the versatility of the F-bomb, check out this little gem. Page down and wait for the "movie" to load.

                              http://www.littlemikey.com/properenglish.htm

                              Turn on the sound and usher all small children and mothers-in-law out of the room.

                              Oh, and the copy editors among us will cringe at the two misspelled words in the presentation.

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                              • #655
                                This book is making a stink here as it is required summer reading for UNC freshmen. Name of book is 'Nickel and Dimed'. Shouldn't that be 'Nickeled and Dimed'? I mean, if you're going to choose a book for summer reading, should the title at least be LITERATE?!

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                                • #656
                                  I think the expression is "Nickel-and-diming it" as in scraping by, so I don't think the title is actually incorrect.

                                  By the way, Nickel and Dimed is a very interesting and eye-opening book. I suggest everyone read it!

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                                  • #657
                                    Where do you people live that they call criminals (alleged or otherwise) gentlemen? Maybe I've been really blind/deaf for years, but here in Baltimore I've never heard them referred to that way.
                                    My most recent pet peeve is the word swagger, esp. when used to refer to sports teams--they can't win until they "get their swagger back." Yuck. (mimes pulling out gun and shooting self in head) I swear I will scream the next time I hear this!

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                                    • #658
                                      The problem with such long threads is that it's hard to respond directly to the post you're responding to...

                                      Anyway, I already forgot who asked about the Bryson book, but no -- haven't read it. Years back, I heard Martin Amis speak and he was asked if his father liked his books. He said his father didn't read them, having declared some time before that he would "never again read any book which did not begin, 'the sound of gunfire split the night air...' or 'the body was discovered...'" I figured if it was good enough for Kingsley Amis, it was certainly good enough for me and have happily devoted myself to murder mysteries and science fiction ever since. I got much of my knowledge of the history of the English language from Fowler's Modern English, probably the same source Bryson got his! Great fun to read, by the way, so I'd recommend it highly.

                                      As for my only other claim to any sort of connection to English, I once held in my own two little paws a book of Dryden's. It had been passed on to him through his family, from its original owner: Thomas More. Both had written margin notes.

                                      Did think of another of my mother's best ones:

                                      The key to her garage has a little tag on it, where she's written the name of the lock which it opens: GROGE!! (Say it out loud, you should get it.

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                                      • #659
                                        LOFF BILL BRYSON!

                                        His travel books are just hil-ar-i-ous. (Hmmm. Now I have to wonder whether or not I separated that correctly...comments?)

                                        His book about Europe, the the German blow-up rubber 'ahems' had me laughing until all my TammyBakerMascara had washed away.

                                        *sigh* Boy the folks on the train thought I was nuts.

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                                        • #660
                                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by budman:
                                          Where do you people live that they call criminals (alleged or otherwise) gentlemen? Maybe I've been really blind/deaf for years, but here in Baltimore I've never heard them referred to that way.
                                          <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                          I'm in one of the top 5 US cities (by population) and usually these faux pas (SP for pl?) seem to happen when there is some wild media craze over some sensational crime such as a carjacking, high speed chase, bank robbery. You know the kind, where they go on for days and days, over and over retelling the story from different perspectives probably because it's the most sensational thing happening and they are desperate to bump ratings. I've seen it on TV, heard it on talk radio and read it in the major paper.

                                          I'll bet it happens in your city too but you just haven't noticed. Actually I don't think it would be difficult to miss these. If you're not paying close attention, all the words are "normal" in these broadcasts and the delivery is usually so smooth from these pros -- it's just that their use of words is completely ridiculous.

                                          BTW I agree about swagger and ALL the stupid adjectives, adverbs, etc. the crowing sportscasters scream about all sports. For me, the sports news segment is the reason to shut off the TV or radio. Nothing more insulting IMO than being screamed at in a vain attempt to "whip up" my spirit over adults playing games. No, I'm not a sports fan but I could tolerate the sportscasters if they didn't act so silly in reporting their "news", raising their voices, chanting, zooming up and down for accents and drama. I guess it's to get attention and I suppose some people actually do get worked up and thrilled with the sports news delivered like this. OTOH for some of us, it's never going to thrill us and is just plain annoying.

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