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In Need Of CoTH Support, My Sister Bought- Vanners!

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  • #81
    Originally posted by gypsyfan0311 View Post
    I am the proud owner of a gypsy vanner, so you are saying that your comments are directed towards the owners of such horses. I have a variety of horses and love each the same no matter the cost or where they have come from. I am in no way bias, considering my love for all horses and the support of anyone who wants one.
    Don't know. Have you tried to convince a non horse person that Gypsy Vanners are a magical breed that can do any sport to the highest levels? Have you made up a mystical backstory wherein they are the incarnation of all the best attributes of Lassie, Black Beauty, Gem Twist, Rox Dene, and Salinero (but not hot) and sold indifferently conformed and questionably bred animals for roughly the price of a new car? If so, then yes, we have a problem with you. If not, then you would not be the referenced snake oil salesman and should carry on enjoying your cute colored cobs.

    By the way, it's "biased."
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    • #82
      I think people are making fun of the HYPE that surrounds the vanners at the moment. Not of the horses and not necessarily of the owners.

      It's the HYPE. For Pete's sake there are billboards saying they are majical!

      Who's got the grey goose??

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      • #83
        Gypsy horses

        Well I have to say that for peoplewho claim to be horse lovers some of you guys don't show it very well! I have a mainly jumper barn (mostly warmbloods, some TBs) and grew up riding in Switzerland at a VERY nice barn (Athena Onassis kept her horses there for a while too).
        I bought my new to horses husband a Gypsy last fall as a trail/hunt horse (needed something built strongly enough to carry weight, quiet and well balanced). It doesn't hurt that he turns heads and is a total ham. A plain ol draft would have works too but he happened to cross our path and is a gem (and no I wont pull his mane because it is gorgeous and I just braid it along crest for each hunt).
        In my world a good horse is a good horse, one that is attractive on top of it is a plus (and no matter what kind of hunter snob anyone might be it's hard to deny that they are very "cute"). No I wouldn't ride one myself, I like a little more blood, but I have hunted him and he is a great, safe, game, and COMFY horse

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        • #84
          Originally posted by levremontf View Post
          Well I have to say that for peoplewho claim to be horse lovers some of you guys don't show it very well! I have a mainly jumper barn (mostly warmbloods, some TBs) and grew up riding in Switzerland at a VERY nice barn (Athena Onassis kept her horses there for a while too).
          I bought my new to horses husband a Gypsy last fall as a trail/hunt horse (needed something built strongly enough to carry weight, quiet and well balanced). It doesn't hurt that he turns heads and is a total ham. A plain ol draft would have works too but he happened to cross our path and is a gem (and no I wont pull his mane because it is gorgeous and I just braid it along crest for each hunt).
          In my world a good horse is a good horse, one that is attractive on top of it is a plus (and no matter what kind of hunter snob anyone might be it's hard to deny that they are very "cute"). No I wouldn't ride one myself, I like a little more blood, but I have hunted him and he is a great, safe, game, and COMFY horse
          Name dropping.... great....

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          • #85
            lol hardly..just saying that I have known many different kinds of horses at different levels and temperment and suitability for the rider they are geared towards is most important. Are Vanners for everyone, no, but they are very nice horses for the type of riders they attract

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            • #86
              The type of riders most Gypsy Cobs attract are short, middle aged, too much money, not a lot of sense, rather plump, mouthy woman who seem to lack attention at home so they find it another way . Sorry but I have had more than enough "they poop lucky charms, fart shamrocks and piss gold" to last me a lifetime. Are they cute? Sure, so are Paint horses...

              And those "plain ole draft horses", I have 2 of them and there is nothing plain about them. They work hard, they have a history, they are honest and I could get a whole herd AND my show wagon with the price you pay for one of your cute as a kitten vanner.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by SmokenMirrors View Post
                The type of riders most Gypsy Cobs attract are short, middle aged, too much money, not a lot of sense, rather plump, mouthy woman who seem to lack attention at home so they find it another way . Sorry but I have had more than enough "they poop lucky charms, fart shamrocks and piss gold" to last me a lifetime. Are they cute? Sure, so are Paint horses...

                And those "plain ole draft horses", I have 2 of them and there is nothing plain about them. They work hard, they have a history, they are honest and I could get a whole herd AND my show wagon with the price you pay for one of your cute as a kitten vanner.
                I am a young rider who is just starting off.I am in no way a middle aged fat woman who cant get any. My family and I love our horses for what they are, thats all. I am slowly gathering knowledge of horses. I completely understand the offense horse owners get from the "hype" of all this. I only am curious of why everyone cares so much to sit and talk about it. I just dont understand why it matters about who owns what and what the price is.

                and I do understand liking the horse just not the way they are presented.

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                • #88
                  I usually don't follow these Vanner discussions but this one had a catchy title. So...the problem is not that they are not good horses right? Its that they are over priced and hyped? I can think of other breeds fitting that description! I have caught digs in other threads regarding these horses and wondered what the deal is. Now I am not pushing this breed, have never seen on in person and have all the horses I need. Just wondering.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by levremontf View Post
                    Well I have to say that for peoplewho claim to be horse lovers some of you guys don't show it very well!
                    Saying they are overpriced drafts means we wish them ill will and don't "love" them? You need to read for context and comprehension instead of flying off the handle.

                    Who cares if you pull your horse's mane? He's your horse, do what you want. You seem to worry too much about what other people think.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by SmokenMirrors View Post
                      The type of riders most Gypsy Cobs attract are short, middle aged, too much money, not a lot of sense, rather plump, mouthy woman who seem to lack attention at home so they find it another way . Sorry but I have had more than enough "they poop lucky charms, fart shamrocks and piss gold" to last me a lifetime. Are they cute? Sure, so are Paint horses...

                      And those "plain ole draft horses", I have 2 of them and there is nothing plain about them. They work hard, they have a history, they are honest and I could get a whole herd AND my show wagon with the price you pay for one of your cute as a kitten vanner.
                      As the proud owner of one of these cobs, I find your statement not only offensive, but ingnorant. I'm not middle aged, plump,or short and I certainly don't lack attention at home. No, my pony doesn't fart butterflies, poop lucky charms and piss gold, but he has a work ethic that I love. He will never compete at Grand Prix levels or go to the Olympics but he can certainly work all day long and be willing and forward and happy to be doing whatever it is we choose to do that day. I don't buy into all that Magikul hype that seems to follow these horses around. They are horses first and foremost, not golden retrievers with hooves. Faeries don't follow them around and Toby certainly didn't come with his own personal wizard. I guess those features must cost extra. I understand that Gypsies are not for everyone. The same can be said of any breed.
                      My herd: Sonata my Morgan mare
                      Toby my Gypsy cob gelding

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by SonatyOne View Post
                        As the proud owner of one of these cobs, I find your statement not only offensive, but ingnorant. I'm not middle aged, plump,or short and I certainly don't lack attention at home. No, my pony doesn't fart butterflies, poop lucky charms and piss gold, but he has a work ethic that I love. He will never compete at Grand Prix levels or go to the Olympics but he can certainly work all day long and be willing and forward and happy to be doing whatever it is we choose to do that day. I don't buy into all that Magikul hype that seems to follow these horses around. They are horses first and foremost, not golden retrievers with hooves. Faeries don't follow them around and Toby certainly didn't come with his own personal wizard. I guess those features must cost extra. I understand that Gypsies are not for everyone. The same can be said of any breed.
                        very well said and certainly something any horse owner can agree with.

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                        • #92
                          But you know, resurrecting an old thread just to show off your bunched up knickers does smell of troll...

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                          • #93
                            "The type of riders most Gypsy Cobs attract are short, middle aged, too much money, not a lot of sense, rather plump, mouthy woman who seem to lack attention at home so they find it another way . Sorry but I have had more than enough "they poop lucky charms, fart shamrocks and piss gold" to last me a lifetime. Are they cute? Sure, so are Paint horses..."

                            OH man, gotta' clean off the keyboard!

                            Just because a few knickers are in a twist.."But I'm young, lithe & willowy, tall, pretty and don't have a big derriere!!!"...doesn't mean the description doesn't fit.

                            Gypo Vanners are usually sold by "The sizzle, not the steak" and usually to women who want furry toys vs. a something to compete. They're sold as Pooping Lucky Charms and the Gypos magikal way with horses and these hairy boyo's etc. etc. etc....and all for $25,000 for a coloured cob is what annoy people.

                            Draft horse owners see these as "chunks"...a small grade draft cross. They've got color (some of them) and hair (most of them) and are basically another pyramid scheme of horsedom. Kinda' like a short colored even hairier version of the Freisian market. The Gypo owners demand they be included in draft horse shows and get very mad when told, "They're colored chunks, not drafts". The spotted draft people have the same gas pains (and their breed doesn't even have a standard yet, but they're still working on it and are getting close...so far, 4 legs and a tail are for sure and everything else is up for discussion.)

                            A mule is not a breed, it's a hybrid. A Gypo and Spotted Draft are a type...and a bloody expensive type at that. Their owners and breeders just get pissed when we don't parrot back the advertising blather..."More Hair, Less Filling...and low carbohydrate too!"
                            "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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                            • #94
                              Well, just look at it this way--if the foal is big enough, she could call it a Drum Horse!
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                              • #95
                                Originally posted by Wellspotted View Post
                                Well, just look at it this way--if the foal is big enough, she could call it a Drum Horse!
                                Why not? Gypsy Cob folks have embellished everything else...

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                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by chaltagor View Post
                                  Saying they are overpriced drafts means we wish them ill will and don't "love" them? You need to read for context and comprehension instead of flying off the handle.

                                  Who cares if you pull your horse's mane? He's your horse, do what you want. You seem to worry too much about what other people think.
                                  They are NOT drafts....they are cobs or ponies...but certainly NOT a draft...

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