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Rant: What does my weight have to do with my ability to manage your stable?

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  • Rant: What does my weight have to do with my ability to manage your stable?

    So I could stand to lose 50 pounds. I know that. But it has no impact on my ability to feed horses, muck stalls, clean tack, etc. I have had to curtail my physical activity (i.e. get 2nd job) in order to pay medical bills (not mine). If I was applying for a riding position, I could understand it. But why would you ask about weight in a first contact for a stable manager position?

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    I guess if they were worried about your physical ability to do the job, that's one thing. If you've demonstrated that you are quite capable of doing it, and doing it well, it should have absolutely zero importance.
    In my opinion, a horse is the animal to have. 1300 pounds of raw muscle, power, grace, and sweat between your legs - it's something you just can't get from a pet hamster.

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      I guess I don't feel like 210 is so grossly obese for a 5'6" built-like-a-brick-shithouse woman that it would send off warning bells to a prospective employer.

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      • #4
        Urghh....I feel your pain!!!

        You are NOT grossly obese, just a little "fluffy on the outside, sturdy on the inside". And I'll just bet you can toss a bale of hay further and faster than some little skinny mini who is only 5'2" and weighs 125. And you can push a full wheelbarrel of horse crap uphill without it tipping over, can't you?

        I'm about your size and I get so sick and tired of all the "skinny" people assuming that just because we have some weight we are less than perfect and can't do the same things they can do.

        Isn't that discrimination?
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        • #5
          If it is any consolation, I was turned down for health insurance (last job was not required to offer COBRA) because I overwieght at 5'10" and 165 pounds

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          • #6
            DopyDgz- wht?

            If it is any consolation, I was turned down for health insurance (last job was not required to offer COBRA) because I overwieght at 5'10" and 165 pounds
            You're very slender! I'm 5'10 and 178...I guess I'm morbidly obese? lol
            *rolls eyes*
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            • #7
              Because people are idiots.

              The only thing they are supposed to ask is if you have any physical limitation that precludes you from performing certain tasks. Those tasks might be lifting 50 lbs, or doing cartwheels - etc. If lifting 50lbs is a daily part of the job - and you can't lift 50lbs because you have a bad back - well - it's ok to deny you the job.

              No - it wasn't ok to be denied a job based on your physical appearance. But the fact is that a lot of people in the world still discriminate. With another employer - they may not have wanted hispanics. Or gays. They just phrase the questions vaguely enough to get the information they want - without you having enough evidence to accuse them of discrimination.

              And weight isn't covered anyway. But it's not as if we all have a sign on our backs stating our BMI - many people just assume that anyone who isn't very slender is...... obese, lazy, unhealthy, doesn't bathe, etc. There is no middle ground - you're either slender or fat.

              I doubt you'd want to work for someone like that anyway - consider yourself lucky and move on.
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              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
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              • #8
                Did they simply ask about weight and height or make a comment that you would not be considered based on your answers?

                The reason I ask is that they may well have HAD a smaller person who ended up not being strong enough to get the job done, and may actually be looking for someone bigger and stronger!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DopyDgz View Post
                  If it is any consolation, I was turned down for health insurance (last job was not required to offer COBRA) because I overwieght at 5'10" and 165 pounds

                  Uh - that isn't overweight. That's within the normal weight for a person of your height.



                  Sirena - you are - barely - into the "overweight" range. Like a couple of pounds.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kellye View Post
                    You are NOT grossly obese, just a little "fluffy on the outside, sturdy on the inside". And I'll just bet you can toss a bale of hay further and faster than some little skinny mini who is only 5'2" and weighs 125. And you can push a full wheelbarrel of horse crap uphill without it tipping over, can't you?

                    I'm about your size and I get so sick and tired of all the "skinny" people assuming that just because we have some weight we are less than perfect and can't do the same things they can do.

                    Isn't that discrimination?

                    i think that obese chip on your shoulder is keeping you from realizing that maybe they asked her weight because they didn't want to hire a 125 "skinny mini" who couldn't do the job.

                    i also want to know how you feel okay to call people skinny minis when i would never dream of calling you a chubby tubby?

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                    • #11
                      Was this in a phone conversation or in person?

                      If someone asks me what I weigh, I say, I have no idea, what do YOU weigh?

                      class, no one on this thread wants to hear about the ongoing tragedy of trying to find size 4 pants. Go peddle your 'skinny people are oppressed too' sack of woe somewhere else. :-)
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eqsiu View Post
                        If I was applying for a riding position, I could understand it. But why would you ask about weight in a first contact for a stable manager position?
                        If this was a first contact, do you know for sure that they weren't considering riding as one of those "occasional other duties" of the stable manager?

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                        • #13
                          class, no one on this thread wants to hear about the ongoing tragedy of trying to find size 4 pants. Go peddle your 'skinny people are oppressed too' sack of woe somewhere else. :-)
                          Um, frankly I found the "skinny mini" comment a little appalling too. I'm small, but I can work hard and get the job done. It IS a double standard - but can you or can't you do the job?

                          And that's sort of the key - either you can do the work, or you can't. If you can do the work the same as anyone else, they're not allowed to discriminate against you because of your weight and I believe one could file a lawsuit for denying you the job on those grounds. If your weight is in fact preventing you from doing the job at hand, no, they're not going to hire you.

                          I don't know how the employers phrased the question to the OP, so take this with a grain of salt.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trixie View Post
                            Um, frankly I found the "skinny mini" comment a little appalling too. I'm small, but I can work hard and get the job done. It IS a double standard - but can you or can't you do the job?
                            I did as well. I worked my ass off, literally, this summer and lost over 28 lbs. I still have 5 more to go to reach my goal, but I feel better. Was I obese before? No, but I can do more and go longer then when I was carrying the extra "fluff".

                            The only question a potential employer should ask is whether or not you can do the job.

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                            • #15
                              I'm also just as tired of hearing people who aren't overweight being bashed by others too. That's about my height and weight...and I work all day every day outside doing hard physical labor. And I don't blow away in the wind...I don't have to run around in the shower to get wet...I can unload and stack a few tons of hay in no time...I don't have to hold onto the sink to blowdry my hair...I don't disappear when I turn sideways, I'm not even considered skinny...I don't throw up after every meal...etc, etc.

                              To the OP...is the job offering med benefits or workman's or is it under the table work? Asking weight is something they should consider doing if they are offering medical.
                              Otherwise...if you're not morbidly obese and not a health risk and can do the job as required...then weight shouldn't have a bearing on it IMO.
                              It isn't right to assume that just because someone isn't a certain height to weight ratio that they are unable to do the job. Fitness has little to do with clothing sizes.
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                              Hold onto the bridle!
                              Jump in the line!
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Kellye View Post
                                You are NOT grossly obese, just a little "fluffy on the outside, sturdy on the inside". And I'll just bet you can toss a bale of hay further and faster than some little skinny mini who is only 5'2" and weighs 125. And you can push a full wheelbarrel of horse crap uphill without it tipping over, can't you?

                                I'm about your size and I get so sick and tired of all the "skinny" people assuming that just because we have some weight we are less than perfect and can't do the same things they can do.

                                Isn't that discrimination?
                                I personally agree with whoever said that you calling someone who is 5'2 and 125 a "skinny mini" is just as bad as anyone calling you something derogatory.

                                By your reasoning, because I am 5'5 and 120lbs, that should mean that I can't toss a bale of hay or push a wheelbarrow of poo? Well, I actually work at the barn to help pay for my lessons, and I can throw a bale just fine, push a wheelbarrow just fine and I'm pretty dang handy with a pitchfork too.

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                                • #17
                                  The employer is probably worried you will throw Twinkies at the anorexic clients.
                                  Most friendships in the horse world are just an opinion away from doom.

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                                  • #18
                                    Twinkies are soft...be careful some of the 'anorexics' might throw power bars back and those aren't soft.
                                    You jump in the saddle,
                                    Hold onto the bridle!
                                    Jump in the line!
                                    ...Belefonte

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by GreekDressageQueen View Post
                                      The employer is probably worried you will throw Twinkies at the anorexic clients.




                                      Nah - people just make assumptions. Gay men will diddle their little kids, fat people are contagious - lazy, smell bad, black people are lazy and don't see well at night, southerners are all rednecks and bigoted, slender people are bulemic, muslims are all terrorists, ..... you know - just the bull crap that people use to discriminate.

                                      When we poke fun at each other and make light of stereotypes - it's funny. In the workplace - it's just bigotry. If the person can do the job - hire him or her. If they can't - don't. Period.

                                      Some people just can't understand such a simple concept.

                                      I remember being told that a female could not be a fighter pilot because she would bleed to death if she pulled any g's while on her period.

                                      Yup. And that was in the 80's. And that was a real argument made against having female fighter pilots. We'd all bleed to death - so it was for our own safety.
                                      Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                                      Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
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                                      • #20
                                        dopydgz

                                        Originally posted by DopyDgz View Post
                                        If it is any consolation, I was turned down for health insurance (last job was not required to offer COBRA) because I overwieght at 5'10" and 165 pounds
                                        no way! challenge them on that. that's insane. i'm sure there are some guidelines they have to follow.
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