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  • tell me about..... cruises & riding!

    For my dad & step-mom's 20th wedding anniversary they are taking all the kids / grandkids on a cruise ! Not my first (or second or third, or heck any) choice but since we've agreed to go now SM is asking about shore excursions!

    Anyone done the horse back rides? Are they awful? Sad? Helpful to provide income to take care of the horses? Should I encourage or avoid?

    We're cruising this summer and stopping in Labadee Haiti (yeah, whole 'nother issue THERE), Ocho Rios Jamaica, Cozumel Mexico and George Town Grand Cayman. Probably not in that order but that isn't the important part.

    I'd love any and all feedback, thanks COTHers! (not quite HR but how about the dog sled stuff? I will *not* be doing anything underwater or airborne so if you want to talk about how you ended your horsie adventure with a zipline or getting touchy-feely with a shark feel free but I won't be going there.... )
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    My husband and I rode in Negril, Jamaica on our honeymoon three years ago. It was a fabulous experience, but the end was the best...getting to ride a horse in the ocean. I was able to ride "my" horse into the water, until he was swimming, and then do my best to hold on for a nice little ride, then ride out onto the beach. It was AWESOME. I'd highly recommend it. Yes, the horses were a little skinnier than US horses. The tack wasn't the best, most comfy stuff, but the animals were well cared for, well treated (while we were there, anyway), and we were happy with it. Enjoy your cruise!

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      I couldn't tell you. I've been so worried about horses being poorly cared for and participating in encouraging it that I haven't got up the guts on any of my cruises or vacations to ride. The only foreign place I rode was in Mauritius and that was at the Riding Club. And that wasn't a tourist place. Had friends with horses.

      Hope you have a blast if you go!
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        Why in the world would you not want to go on a cruise???? I love them, I will go for you! As for horse excursions, if you book the ones through the cruiseline they do tend to be better. The cruiseline does not want to get complaints about trips they support. If you had a problem, or were dissapointed in the care of the horses complain to your cruise, they would likely no longer support that operation. Just remember these excursions are mainly for people that don't ride, so you as a rider may well be bored out of your mind (unless they decide to throw you on the trial horse to test it out because they know you ride......then it gets fun in a hurry!). As for your not wanting to go to Labadee you are obviously on Royal Carribean as they own that section of Haiti, it is fabulous! Great little beach and you can snorkel in the cove next to the boat. Not much to do there but walk around, snorkel, and they have a little flea market type thing......but overall I liked the stop there!

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          Hey, it sounds like you're doing almost the exact same cruise I did a couple years ago except for Ochos Rios (I did Montego Bay). You must be doing Royal Caribbean

          I did the riding in the ocean in Jamaica, the horses were thin but not emaciated. They seemed decently well taken care of and unlike some of the places I've seen in the US, they weren't all standing around saddled up. It was fun, but I'm not sure I'd chose that particular excursion again only because the place was like an hours drive from the cruise. Didn't leave a whole lot of time for other activities.

          The other excursions I did was the swimming with the dolphins (Cozumel), jet skis (out of Labadee) and a jeep trek/snorkeling (Grand Cayman). I don't recommend the dolphins because they take you all the way back to the mainland (a 45 minute ferry ride) and the water is disgusting. I should have just done snorkeling in Cozumel because the water is beautiful. Off the dock its probably 50 ft deel but you can still see the bottom of the ocean. The other activities were a lot of fun, I would recommend both. If I was to do it again, all of my excursions would be water related. You are in the Caribbean after all and I definitely regret not doing more snorkeling. Oh, although I did pass on the stingray petting. I went only a year or so after Steve Irwin died so I was a little freaked out! HAVE FUN!!!

          ETA: RC was my first experience with cruising and it was great. The ship is so ginormous you never feel confined. The only non fun thing...muster drill before leaving port. Talk about feeling claustrophobic!

          And one more random thing (and then I'm done, I promise) with Haiti and Jamaica on the agenda, you won't be able to donate blood for a year when you get back. Both are flagged for malaria. Trust me though, I did try!

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            Originally posted by BuddyRoo View Post
            I couldn't tell you. I've been so worried about horses being poorly cared for and participating in encouraging it that I haven't got up the guts on any of my cruises or vacations to ride. The only foreign place I rode was in Mauritius and that was at the Riding Club. And that wasn't a tourist place. Had friends with horses.

            Hope you have a blast if you go!
            Thanks for understanding, that was my worry! Its like Labadee; yeah I know their economy needs it at the same time it will seem strange upon stranger being ... I dunno ... ostentatious? in our "have-ness" around an area that has so little.
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              Originally posted by mjrtango93 View Post
              Why in the world would you not want to go on a cruise???? I love them, I will go for you!
              I wish you could ! I do NOT fly anymore and I really just hate to leave my slice of home. It seems like a lot of work to me just to have to be around that many people for days....

              Thanks for the tip on the cruise -vs- off port excursions! I had not thought of the extra incentive to do well by their animals so as to avoid cruise line complaints.
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                Originally posted by KateKat View Post
                Hey, it sounds like you're doing almost the exact same cruise I did a couple years ago except for Ochos Rios (I did Montego Bay). You must be doing Royal Caribbean

                Both are flagged for malaria. Trust me though, I did try!
                Yep, correct guess from the cruising folks, RC is our cruise line!

                Looks like all the horse back riding tours (cruise or off port) offer beach riding, some also make a point to mention historical spots? Hmmm.... history on horseback?

                Malaria ! OK, do I need immunizations before I go? Off to google.....
                Last edited by Chester's Mom; Apr. 21, 2010, 05:14 PM. Reason: cuz I cain't spell ;)
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                  Originally posted by Chester's Mom View Post
                  Malaria ! OK, do I need immunizations before I go? Off to google.....
                  No you don't need any immunizations before you go, honestly where they take you your not in any danger. As for feeling bad going to vacation in Haiti/Labadee, you are actually on RC's private area so the only locals there are paid by the cruiseline. The "locals" there don't even live at Labadee, they come in just to work and sell goods, you do them more harm then good by not going. Right now the cruise/tourist industry is really what is helping them move forward still.

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                    CDC info for anyone else who wonders...

                    Areas of Haiti with Malaria: All (including Port Labadee).
                    If you will be visiting an area of Haiti with malaria, you will need to discuss with your doctor the best ways for you to avoid getting sick with malaria. Ways to prevent malaria include the following:
                    • Taking a prescription antimalarial drug
                    • Using insect repellent and wearing long pants and sleeves to prevent mosquito bites
                    • Sleeping in air-conditioned or well-screened rooms or using bednets
                    Mjrt: possibly this is new since the earthquake; I'm sure even the workers who are local are more exposed now due to problems throughout the country.

                    Thank goodness there's no "horse-borne" diseases to worry about!
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                      Very possible it's since the earthquake, I was there several years ago.

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                        yep- we did the Montego Bay horseback riding excursion last year. Like others said- the horses are thin, but not emaciated. There were fat ponies on the property too.

                        The trail ride part was long and boring- sorta going through Jamaican brush up and down a hill for an hour or so. But riding in the ocean was pretty fun. One of the horses pooped in the ocean and all the non-horsey people were screaming, I had to laugh

                        Not sure if i'd do it again because if I'm gonna ride, I want to RIDE (not that i was expecting to do that on this excursion, just more like once was plenty for me), but for a little excursion, it was fun.
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                          I went on a cruise 5 years ago using RC. I was happy with the riding excursion and felt that the horses were adequately cared for. And I was pretty happy with the quality of horse, too, all things considered.

                          But if by any chance you have to choose between snorkeling and horseback riding, I would choose snorkeling, provided you aren't claustrophobic. Riding on the beach was fun, but apart from the novelty factor, it's not that much different from riding a horse into a river.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chester's Mom View Post
                            Areas of Haiti with Malaria: All (including Port Labadee).
                            If you will be visiting an area of Haiti with malaria, you will need to discuss with your doctor the best ways for you to avoid getting sick with malaria. Ways to prevent malaria include the following:
                            • Taking a prescription antimalarial drug
                            • Using insect repellent and wearing long pants and sleeves to prevent mosquito bites
                            • Sleeping in air-conditioned or well-screened rooms or using bednets
                            Mjrt: possibly this is new since the earthquake; I'm sure even the workers who are local are more exposed now due to problems throughout the country.

                            Thank goodness there's no "horse-borne" diseases to worry about!

                            Sorry, I didn't mean to worry you! I didn't get immunized and everything was fine. Just spend all your time in the ocean

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                              I haven't ridden in any of the places you mentioned, so this may be completely useless, but we did ride in Costa Rica.

                              ... and it completely broke my heart. The horses were *very* thin, and had *very* poorly fitting tack (to the point of causing open sores) and were generally in rough shape.

                              We only made it about 10 minutes into the ride before I asked if we could turn around. I completely realize they were doing the best by the horses that they could, and I explained (the best I could anyway with my broken Spanish!) that the reason I needed to stop was because of an injured ankle (turns out the ankle was actually broken- I didn't find that out until I got back to the states!) Anyway, I couldn't stomach riding those poor horses. We did give the people a nice tip, and hopefully some of that went back to the horses.
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                                Can I ask a couple of questions of you all?

                                If you could ride a gaited horse, Paso type with a running walk-type gait, would that make the non-beach parts of a ride more interesting?

                                Would gaited horses encourage you to ask your non-riding SO, DH, or family members to come along so they could experience riding fast and smooth?

                                Would fun-sounding riding possibilities make the difference between destination resorts if you were doing the deciding (assuming all else - location, golf, spas, was equal)?

                                1walk1trots - was everyone on your ride allowed to try swimming with their horse or only those with a certain riding ability?

                                I will be talking to resort owners/developers next month and would like to encourage them to consider adding equestrian opportunities to their resorts or underwriting a local ride operator with horses' condition, tack, and safety monitored and supplemented if needed.
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                                  I did a ride in the Domincan Republic on gaited horses and it was pretty good. We had decent riders in the group so we were able to move out and we rode about 2 hours climbing up and down trails, then stopped for lunch in the woods.

                                  The horses were a bit thin, but much higher quality than I would have thought. The one thing I remember most is every wood shack we passed by had clothes laying outside on the palm fronds. At first I thought, oh Tues must be wash day. Then I realized they didn't have closets and just layed all their clothes outside. pretty sad....

                                  I also rode on the beach at Acapulco, but got off after a short ride as I felt the horse was having a hard time even though I didn't weigh much...

                                  I have done 12 cruises as I used to work on them babysitting the kids. I would take time off from work to do these cruises and it was a blast - great way to cruise without the cost.

                                  Grand Cayman is gorgeous and so is Cozumel - bluest water you will ever see. Jamaica I didn't care for as they kept trying to sell us contraband. Since we worked on the ship, we saw things the tourists don't always see.

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                                  • #18
                                    It really depends on where you go. The cruise folks print up a lot of information about their shore excursions, so you should be able to easily find the details about who is running the horse ones and look them up online. Like here, they can be great or very very very far from great.

                                    I went on one in Ochos Rios in Jamaica and it was fabulous. They met each rider to talk about experience, then picked out a horse for them, then tacked it up. A lot of the horses were rehab horses from a track on the other side of the island, apparently, and they used the once daily walk down and into the ocean as part of their rehab. They really liked talking about each horse and where it came from. Swimming with a horse was quite an experience. Really hard to stay on while going deeper into the water, but once their feet were off the ground it was so smooth and fun.

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                                    • #19
                                      I don't know of any horse riding ON Cozumel itself? there are ruins you can tour but not on horses.

                                      I haven't been to Jamaica or Haiti, no comment.

                                      Many of the places offering riding are poor. The saddles will not be comfortable and it will be hot and sandy. and yucky.

                                      Maybe you'd enjoy a glass bottom boat trip, or trip to a sea turtle sanctuary while onshore.

                                      I go to Coz to SCUBA, so I won't go there on how cool THAT is

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BLBGP View Post
                                        I went on one in Ochos Rios in Jamaica and it was fabulous. They met each rider to talk about experience, then picked out a horse for them, then tacked it up. A lot of the horses were rehab horses from a track on the other side of the island, apparently, and they used the once daily walk down and into the ocean as part of their rehab. They really liked talking about each horse and where it came from. Swimming with a horse was quite an experience. Really hard to stay on while going deeper into the water, but once their feet were off the ground it was so smooth and fun.
                                        Rehab horses? Now that sounds neat. If you remember the name of the place, perhaps you could share it here or thru PM?
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