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Should I MMOB?

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    My horse is boarded at a great barn. The barn owner is also the instructor, and she is a terrific teacher and extremely knowledgeable. The barn atmosphere is great. There's just one thing that frustrates me--a general lack of rules. Helmets aren't required even for kids (it's left up to the parents), no expectation that you'll clean up after your horse no matter how bad the mess, no enforcement of putting back borrowed barn tack. The BO is just not into ordering people around. We're in a rural area and barns here can be pretty casual, but still.

    I know from some comments that the BO would actually prefer a neater, more professional look, but she has never tried to do anything about it. She has no paid help but only volunteer kids (and me, the only adult) to help with feeding.

    Should I say anything to her about the mess? I wouldn't dream of leaving because of it, it's just an annoyance. I just wondered if I should offer to be the mean old lady who nags the kids to clean up after themselves. But I'm not an official working student or the golden star of all the shows, just another boarder.

    Should I MMOB? or try to make things better?
    Yes, I am crazy. Is that an issue?

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    My brain isn't working too well today, but what about helping the BO to organize a barn clean-up day and invite everyone to pitch in? When I was at a boarding barn as a kid we used to do this in the spring - paint the barn/jumps, clean up pastures & common areas, plant flowers, etc. We'd grill burgers & hot dogs provided by the BO, and people would bring goodies to share. Everyone was always proud of how nice everything looked and usually worked a little harder to keep it looking so nice.

    If it's been pretty casual for a while people may not even realize that what they are doing is a problem for anyone. Sprucing things up with a good spring clean might help them realize that. I know I'm always better about keeping my house picked up when everything's clean. (my barn is usually neater than my house)!
    ~ A true friend knows all there is to know about you and still likes you. -E. Hubbard

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      It must not bother her that much or she'd do something about it.

      To be honest, given your status as a boarder/student, I don't think that even if you volunteered to help keep things up that you'd have much stroke with the other boarders/students which would just be more frustration.

      If it were me, I'd keep my mouth shut unless the trainer/BO was specifically kvetching about it to me. If that were the case, I'd say something like, "ya know...maybe they just don't know any better. Maybe if you came up with a list of barn rules and had a barn meeting to go over them, things would improve?"
      A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

      Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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      • #4
        I would talk to her about having a spring clean up as Mia suggested.
        If the kids help around the barn anyway, they wouldn't think of it as anything out of the ordinary and can be made into a fun day.

        I know when we do our painting party for the jumps and stuff the kids have a blast.

        Just remember as much as you want it neat and tidy you need to make it fun for them.

        Also, is the facility set up so that it is easy to keep clean. ie does everything have a home, but just isn't getting there, or do lots of things have no real home. This makes a difference.

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        • #5
          It is the LAW here in MA that you must wear a helmet if under 18. Don't know if that's the case up in Maine.

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            #6
            Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
            It is the LAW here in MA that you must wear a helmet if under 18. Don't know if that's the case up in Maine.
            Sadly, no. They don't even require helmets for motorcyclists. Bicyclists, yes.
            Yes, I am crazy. Is that an issue?

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              Originally posted by BuddyRoo View Post
              It must not bother her that much or she'd do something about it.

              To be honest, given your status as a boarder/student, I don't think that even if you volunteered to help keep things up that you'd have much stroke with the other boarders/students which would just be more frustration.

              If it were me, I'd keep my mouth shut unless the trainer/BO was specifically kvetching about it to me. If that were the case, I'd say something like, "ya know...maybe they just don't know any better. Maybe if you came up with a list of barn rules and had a barn meeting to go over them, things would improve?"
              I have to agree with pretty much all of this. I like your idea of waiting till an opportune comment from her (she does say things once in a while) and making a useful suggestion, which I haven't done so far. I think she's just overwhelmed with work. She has a full lesson and show schedule, several horses that she's training, and she does at least 50% of the feeding herself. Not to mention that she's a single mother of two pre-teens. She's also always working on a new improvement to the premises. Frankly, I don't know how she does it.
              Yes, I am crazy. Is that an issue?

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