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  • heavy on the forehand

    hello coth friends..
    my thread today has to do with the results of my first horse show in 2 years with my ottb...he was such a good boy on sunday, and I showed hunter under saddle, english eq and english pleasure open...he did everything I asked of him and I showed against paints and quarter horses (he was the only english "type" horse in the class) who went around on a loose rein at a very slow pace, while my horse was alert and I thought went at a good pace, albeit I had contact with him at all times...well I didnt place in any class and was very disappointed, although I couldnt be more proud with how "EL" did. When asked what I could work on after the classes, all three judges said he was heavy on the forehand..soooo I guess I need to work on this...so my questions are..first should I have his back checked? and the second thing is what are some good excercises to get him supple, and use his hind end more to get him off his forehand...he always will be alert and "snappy" when I ride him at a show because that is the way he is, but maybe we can do something so he doesnt appear so "heavy"...or maybe I should just so "eff" it, and not show under western judges....

  • #2
    First of all good job for you and your boy! I think the most improtant thing is that you are proud of him.

    I may not have the best advice since I am not a trainer and do not show but if you were showing in a QH/Paint show you may not have placed due to the movement of the other horses. The "hunter" classes in the breed shows require the horses move a lot different than in the regular hunter ring. I would take the judges advice and then possibly video tape my self riding to see if he is heavy on the forehand or your horse was just not what they were looking for.

    You may also want to contact the show organizers. Many times they video the classes and you may be able to get cd of your ride to see how he looked in comparison to the other horses in the class.

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    • #3
      I agree with Spot, your classes where probably great ..... at a non QH/Paint type of show.

      Could you feel your horse being heavy in your hand? Did he root down? Grab? Get strong? Do you have to pick him up off his forhand?

      You would know if your horse is heavy with your daily rides if he was, and would have known that before any judge had to tell you. I think you were just at the wrong show


      You should Ef-it and not ride at western shows. You will see how appreciated your horses way of going really is when you go to non western shows.

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        #4
        hey thanks for the reply..it was a local scottsdale schooling show, but most of the horses were of color and/or western horses...I think I had the only T bred there! he was sooo cute, especially when asked to hand gallop..we were just breezing by everybody and he really was enjoying himself!!! he picked up his leads, walked, stopped, backed...trotted his little heart out!! I have a little video camera so I will have someone "film" me this weekend and check myself out...I absolutely LOVE the way things turned out as far as how he acted..he was so nervous at first, but between classes I gave him treats and let him eat hay soaked in water , he realized it wasnt so bad after all... and I think this little show "bonded" us, as we just have to rely on each other and we really did build trust towards each other..does that make sense???

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          #5
          ozone..no he didnt feel heavy at all..we ride in a waterford bit and he cant root..he likes contact and honestly was just checking things out and alert as all get out!! it was so great for us to get out there and do this!! im 47 and have had him for 4 years, we have had our ups and downs, and I am NOT giving up..but will save the 80 bucks next time!!

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          • #6
            LOL Save the 80 bucks!

            Enjoy him he sounds like a pretty nice guy! What TB doesn't like to check things out and take it all in That's why we love them!

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            • #7
              In my experience, some western (AQHA, APHA, etc) judges equate contact with the mouth to not broke or not using themselves. I have seen this at a lot of little shows around here, their idea of going in a frame is no contact with the bit, real loopy rein.

              I have no idea why, just seems to be the way they learned how to tell if a horse is in frame or not?

              Take your horse to a schooling show more suitable...maybe dressage or a little H/J that has flat classes?

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                #8
                I was just perusing the pictures that a photographer took at the show...and everyone of the horses was on a "droopy" rein..and even in the equitation classes, most of those riders looked terrible, all up in the pommel of the saddle and hands forward with NO contact...oh my...I am just going to chalk it up as a GREAT experience with my horse, and never, ever attending the "blue ribbon" series schooling shows again.

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                • #9
                  The odds are against you as a TB at a breed show.
                  Most likely, all of your gaits, while appropriate for a hunter, probably looked speedy compared to the others.
                  I'm never sure what use a droopy rein would be good for but thats another story.
                  A few yrs back, I took my retired TBx hunter to an open show (which was at a QH barn)for fun and after the classes were over, the judge came to me and said "now what does this horse REALLY do"

                  Its good experience for you & your horse though and as your partnership grows, you can pick the shows that would be more suitable.
                  Good luck

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                    #10
                    I am a die hard TB fan, especially of the off the track variety...if anything, it is MORE of a challenge, and a feat, to get them just to settle down and perform lovely in a class..which should be recognized and rewarded...we could be galloping 35 miles an hour, and all I have to do is say a very low, soft, "whoa" and he will slide to a halt!! He is all about waiting for my word, and he will listen (most of the time ) Dont get me wrong, he has his spook moments, but that just endears me more to him....And is any animal more beautiful than the athletic, retired racehorse? that's my story, and Im stickin to it!!

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