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  • Jim Ryan Horse Buyer/Trader died in truck/horse trailer wreck

    Mr. Ryan was killed September 17 in an accident around Terre Haute Indiana. He was pulling a load of draft horses from a sale back to Kentucky. His name was tossed around last year when the RAMEY incident occured almost one year ago to the day. He traded horses extensively and ran Ryan Horse Sales. Here is a link to the story and the story:

    http://www.tribstar.com/articles/2005/09/20/news/local_...e_yesterday/lb03.txt

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    Man, horses killed in I-up crash





    A Kentucky man and two horses died Saturday when his pick-up truck and horse trailer drove into a median on Interstate 70.

    At 11:35 p.m., James M. Ryan, 55, of Elizabeth, Ky. failed to negotiate a curve in the road near the 14 mile marker, according to a Vigo County Sheriff's Department news release.

    Ryan was driving a pick-up truck eastbound and had 15 draft horses in an attached 30-foot horse trailer. The truck and trailer traveled about 500 feet though a wooded median and hit a tree head-on, police said. Police believe Ryan fell asleep at the wheel, according to the news release.

    Ryan and his passenger, James M. Hornback, 39 of Hodgenville, Ky. were extricated and taken to Terre Haute Regional Hospital, where Ryan was pronounced dead due to internal injures.

    Hornback was taken to Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis for leg and hip fractures and possible internal injuries. He was listed in fair condition Sunday, a hospital spokeswoman said.


    The two were taking horses back to Kentucky after they bought them in Illinois. The horses were examined by veterinarian Beth Brown of the Airport Veterinary Clinic. Two of the horses were destroyed due to the extent of their injuries, police said.

    The remaining horses were taken from the scene by members of the Vigo County Sheriff's Department Mounted Posse.

    Tribune-Star staff report







    Story created Sep 20, 2005 - 09:02:13 CDT.
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    #2
    Mr. Ryan was killed September 17 in an accident around Terre Haute Indiana. He was pulling a load of draft horses from a sale back to Kentucky. His name was tossed around last year when the RAMEY incident occured almost one year ago to the day. He traded horses extensively and ran Ryan Horse Sales. Here is a link to the story and the story:

    http://www.tribstar.com/articles/2005/09/20/news/local_...e_yesterday/lb03.txt

    News

    Man, horses killed in I-up crash





    A Kentucky man and two horses died Saturday when his pick-up truck and horse trailer drove into a median on Interstate 70.

    At 11:35 p.m., James M. Ryan, 55, of Elizabeth, Ky. failed to negotiate a curve in the road near the 14 mile marker, according to a Vigo County Sheriff's Department news release.

    Ryan was driving a pick-up truck eastbound and had 15 draft horses in an attached 30-foot horse trailer. The truck and trailer traveled about 500 feet though a wooded median and hit a tree head-on, police said. Police believe Ryan fell asleep at the wheel, according to the news release.

    Ryan and his passenger, James M. Hornback, 39 of Hodgenville, Ky. were extricated and taken to Terre Haute Regional Hospital, where Ryan was pronounced dead due to internal injures.

    Hornback was taken to Methodist Hospital in Indianapolis for leg and hip fractures and possible internal injuries. He was listed in fair condition Sunday, a hospital spokeswoman said.


    The two were taking horses back to Kentucky after they bought them in Illinois. The horses were examined by veterinarian Beth Brown of the Airport Veterinary Clinic. Two of the horses were destroyed due to the extent of their injuries, police said.

    The remaining horses were taken from the scene by members of the Vigo County Sheriff's Department Mounted Posse.

    Tribune-Star staff report







    Story created Sep 20, 2005 - 09:02:13 CDT.

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    • #3
      How many horses would a 30' trailer normally fit? What size (feet wise) is an 8 horse gooseneck?
      THe reason I ask is the article said he had 15 draft/draft cross horses in the trailer. That seems like a lot.

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      • #4
        My 3-horse slant(modified stock), with dressing/tack room (bp with a Miata)is 16ft, plus tongue, and is cozy for 3 large-ish horses.

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        • #5
          15 DRAFTS in an 8 horse?

          BTW - About Mile Marker #14. Suffice to say, there is not really a big CURVE there. This guy was DEFINITELY not alert for whatever reason!!

          There is NO curve in rural I-70 thru that entire area that is not safe to navigate at 80 m.p.h. (with a car ... of course not quite as fast in a rig ... point being, the road is NOT very curvy thru there).

          Magnum
          "If you don't know where you're going, you'll end up somewhere else."

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          • #6
            Would he have been taking horses to slaughter? It doesn't seem like most responsible horse people would be shipping 15 drafts in a 30' trailer. But then why would he be going to KY instead of IL? Or is there a pmu auction/outlet in IN and he is bringing them to a killer auction in KY? Just trying to make sense of the # of Drafts in a trailer that size.

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              #7
              I am not sure why he would bring the horses to KY. He ran some sales himself in KY. However, there was a sale this past Saturday about an hour and a half from him in FAIRVIEW KY; it was a Mennonite sale and featured horses of several types, including draft horses. He may have been planning to trade some there. Or he may have just been peddling them.

              We have a 24' cattle trailer to haul cattle, and I cannot get 15 cows in it, much less draft horses.

              In his obituary, which I am posting, stated he was a member of the draft horse association in KY. The Courier Journal obit ran September 20. The wreck article ran I think September 18; the wreck was September 17.

              Here is his obit:

              James Michael "Jim" Ryan

              ELIZABETHTOWN RYAN, JAMES MICHAEL, "JIM," 55, died Sunday, September 18, 2005, in Terre Haute, IN. A native of Hardin County, KY, he was a member of St. Clare Catholic Church, Central Kentucky Draft Horse Association and the American Quarter Horse Association. He was a lifelong horse trader and the owner and operator of Ryan Horse Sales. He was preceded in death by his father, Kenneth Ryan, and a brother, Bill Ryan. Survivors include his wife, De Nealta Etherton Ryan of Elizabethtown; a son, Jason Ryan (Amy) of Elizabethtown; two daughters, Tammy Hall (Brent) and Kelly Ryan all of Elizabethtown; his mother, Bertha Jean Ryan of Elizabethtown; two sisters, Jeanie Thompson (Bill) of Cecilia and Judy Thompson (Bobby) of Louisville; and five grandchildren, Linsey, Emily, Madison, James Wade and Matthew Ryan. The funeral Mass will be celebrated at 11 a.m. Thursday at St. Clare Catholic Church, with Rev. Ivo Cecil officiating. Burial will follow in St. Clare Cemetery. Visitation is from 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Wednesday at Brown Funeral Home. A prayer vigil service will be held at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at the funeral home.
              Published in The Courier-Journal on 9/20/2005.

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                Is this anywhere near where the RAMEY wreck was last year? <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by magnum:
                15 DRAFTS in an 8 horse?

                BTW - About Mile Marker #14. Suffice to say, there is not really a big CURVE there. This guy was DEFINITELY not alert for whatever reason!!

                There is NO curve in rural I-70 thru that entire area that is not safe to navigate at 80 m.p.h. (with a car ... of course not quite as fast in a rig ... point being, the road is NOT very curvy thru there).

                Magnum </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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                • #9
                  I just answered my own questions- The Ryans own Ryan Horse Co and sell to Beltex in TX for slaughter.

                  Interesting case where a lady thought she found a good home for 2 of her pet horses that she needed to place due to her having Myasthenia Gravis (A serious disease). They horses eventually were sold behind her back to Ryan Horse Co and slaughtered at Beltex. She won a judgement against them for 126,000.00 and it was upheld on appeal. See link below for court case.

                  court case

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                  • #10
                    I just can't feel sorry for a man like that. Jingles for those poor horse he killed in the accident, and the 13 others, as for him, I hope his death was slow and painful.
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                    • #11
                      I feel kinda bad, that I dont feel bad. I do feel bad for the guys family though, and of course I feel very bad for the horses. I am a big believer in What goes around comes around.

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                      • #12
                        Exactly the phrase I was thinking of, gazenna. What goes around comes around. I don't feel a bit sorry for him, either. But I don't feel bad that I don't feel bad. Good riddance.

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                        • #13
                          Some of you people have some very warped morals, how totally sad you are. Obviously not real big on the Bible or its teachings. I really hope you don't have children your raising.

                          BTW what size and age were the draft horses?
                          Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                          • #14
                            county, with all due respect, not everyone is a Christian, therefore not everyone thinks that the bible is the measure of proper moral action.

                            I read the trial transcript for the woman whose pets his business bought from her deceptively sold for meat, and I have to believe that this man earned an unhappy demise. Too bad he took horses with him.
                            I tolerate all kinds of animal idiosyncrasies.
                            I've found that I don't tolerate people idiosyncrasies as well. - Casey09

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                            • #15
                              Maybe I am cruel as well but when I read about a person like that I dont feel instantly sad about what happened to them... But show me a picture of their family and talk about the GOOD things they did in life then I will feel guilty.

                              Also the article said he was hauling with his pick up truck. What pick up truck can haul 15 draft horses ?? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen to me!
                              ~ Scarborough Fair Farm ~

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                              • #16
                                Sounds to me like he was killed by his own greed! (isnt that one of the 7 deadly sins?)

                                What reason other than greed would there be for hauling 15 drafties in a 30 foot trailer???
                                That is only 2 foot per horse!!!!

                                Gee..do ya think the drafties trying to find some breathing room could have contributed to the wreck?

                                I just thank goodness he didnt take any other innocent human life out with him!
                                www.horse-protection.org

                                No Horses to Slaughter Clique

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                                • #17
                                  Jim Ryan was responsible for 1000's of horses going to slaughter over the years. His sons ( I thought he had two ?, one is named Buck Ryan) are both in the business as well.
                                  Shepherdsville auction was closed last night. It would have been the last sale before the Ensign ammendment is to be in effect. There were no signs at the auction house for the closing.
                                  In the past, draft horses (absolutely stunning healthy looking animals by the way) were unloaded from one trailer and loaded back on another behind the auction house, without being run through the auctions itself. This was always done very hush hush.
                                  His offspring were part of the group of people I mentioned in other threats, getting pleasure out of beating the horses with metal bars when sorting them out for the different kill buyers, who also frequented this auction regularly.
                                  I hope it is over for good at least at Shepherdsville.
                                  ************************
                                  \"Horses lend us the wings we lack\"

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                                  • #18
                                    Well, I am sorry for his family but it sounds like he had that coming. Like someone else said, what goes around comes around. At least his suffering was a lot shorter than the thousands of horses he sent to slaughter over his lifetime.

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                                    • #19
                                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lori B:
                                      county, with all due respect, not everyone is a Christian, therefore not everyone thinks that the bible is the measure of proper moral action.
                                      </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                      My sentiments exactly! Sounds like this man got what he was owed. I do however feel sorry for his family and the many horses he apparently murdered.
                                      \"Throw your heart over the fence and your horse will follow\"

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                                      • #20
                                        I wouldn't wish anybody dead no matter what actions they have done. Does it make us better persons to wish someone dead? Does it help anybody or any animal to say that? I doubt it. I don't know the man, I don't know what he did and I don't know whether he deserved to die..
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