Actually, Grande, I don't think the lottery thing is a big so what, at least not in Ca. The number of uneducated, poor people buying lottery tickets is huge and I don't think that is a wise way for someone to be spending their money, when they can barely afford to buy food... I think it is a giant fraud that the state encourages.
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X - I'd agree with that.
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xegeba, I couldn't agree more about the lottery. It's a tax on the poor.Comment
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Yes I have!!!!! I can't tell you how irritating it is to go into the liquor store to buy my cigs on a Wed. and have to wait in line FOREVER!!!!!!!! Not to mention the fact that my tax dollars are paying for these peoples kid to ride the bus in the morning. Don't get me started...........Comment
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And I bet the damn buses dont even have seatbelts!Comment
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Hey Bea... where is the thread they want you to go to?Comment
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You know Grande, that is another thing I could never figure out... Why DON'T buses have seatbelts?Comment
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This very week due to the good influence of this board, for the first time since my twenties, I started wearing a helmet again. And today realized I have a ridiculous question, please don't laugh.
Approved by what or whom on the label.
I bought my new helmet from the tack shop owned by the mother of my SO. And I asked if it was approved and she said yes. But it only cost around $50. And I just read Erin mentioning $100. So I want to check the label. Yes, I think my SO's mother likes me. At least I think she does . . .
xegeba, no idea about that thread, didn't ring any bells for me. You?Comment
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wanderlust:
What has everyone up in arms is your assertion that an approved helmet is no more protective than an unapproved, and citing your friend's broken helmet but un-broken head as evidence of that.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Now, if your friend's head had cracked but the helmet hadn't, I'd be more likely to listen to your argument that the helmet might be less-than-effective at its intended purpose.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I never cited anything like this. I cited a woman who had a serious head injury, while wearing a helmet. She said, in her opinion, nobody should ride at all.
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Actually, don't uncollected lottery payouts go to the schools? So really, those people are paying for their own kids to ride the bus, in a way.
"It is good to be fine."\"It is good to be fine.\"Comment
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No bells. But, to save time and trouble, just go get yourself a GPA and then we won't have to worry about your charming and delightful noggin. Plus, LordHelpus needs a techno-nerd to help with pictures and I mentioned your name. Over on H/J... Your brains are to valuable to waste on a cheap knockoff!!!!!Comment
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BigBay, I think that is what the CA. govt. would like us to believe.... I am having serious doubts when I have to pay for everything under the sun because my school district can't.Comment
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Sorry I haven't gotten back to this post, but I went back and read all the replys and want to thank you for them.
This trainer is a horse and person trainer and she gave my horse 3 months of pro dressage training, never wearing a helmet. That is one of the reasons why I was so scared, I thought about liability if she did come off dream and get a head injury, and that fact that he is a hot thoroughbred doesn't help.
On the flip side, I am only a teenager, and have no right to tell others what they should and should not do. I can not stand it when others tell me to do something I don't believe in, and I would think it would be ten times worse to be an adult and hear it from a kid.
I believe I will let it be, and just hand her my helmet whenever she schools dream.
Thanks again.
Andrea
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xegeba:
You know Grande, that is another thing I could never figure out... Why DON'T buses have seatbelts?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think they teach the bus drivers only to crash into stuff that the bus will run over.Comment
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Game, set, Match!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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uh oh, Bea thinks evil thought about her SO's mother and slinks off to H/J trying to find someone along the way she can ask what a GPA is. Sometimes it's hard being a western rider on an english forumComment
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All originally posted by Tosca:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I never cited anything like this. I cited a woman who had a serious head injury, while wearing a helmet. She said, in her opinion, nobody should ride at all <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tosca4711:
I said I would have to question the safety of the helmets. Am I not allowed to question the party line? If they break enough to fall off, or if they break into pieces they are not very protective are they? More facts are needed here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Your thread was very interesting, and I too was horrified at all the concussions. I've never had one. I would have to question the safety of the approved helmets if they are breaking so easily. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My apologies, Tosca... it was your reaction to those citing broken helmets that I found bizarre. But to each his own... all I know is that when I dropped my unapproved hunt-cap on concrete once, the plastic shell cracked. I've dropped my GPA and approved CO skullcap on concrete more than I can count ((I'm a clutz, what can I say) and neither one of those has shown the least bit of wear. Based on strictly anecdotal personal experience, I'll stick with my approved helmets on my greenies.
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Tosca and others, I hope you realize 2 things:
1. Any researcher who gave a placebo to a seriously depressed person in an outpatient setting would get his a$$ sued off if they were hospitalized or killed themselves. Most studies don't want to touch anyone who is at serious risk for suicide. Sure, maybe antidepressants do increase risk of suicidal ideation in people who were moderately depressed, but it would be a crime to prevent teens who really need antidepressants from gaining access, as they are trying to do in Britain. That's like banning helmets or seatbelts because they exacerbate some accidents. Sure, maybe set guidelines for more cautious use, but there are significant #'s of minors (under 18) who WOULD be dead or unable to function if it weren't for these drugs.
2. Various estimates of eventual mortality rates (due to suicide) for bipolar disorder are in the neighborhood of 15-20%. Unipolar depression is harder to get a handle on because a lot of depressed people are not as badly off as the severely depressed people, and they are all lumped together in one category. Risk of suicide is much higher in those who are untreated, and therapy does NOT always work! It is an essential part of treatment for severely affected individuals, but it is NOT enough for many. To those that are citing HRT, last I heard there were arguments on both sides. We are not trying to ban HRT, are we?
One of these years, I expect the two of them [Bruce and Philip] to have their own division at Rolex, and contest it riding cattle. And they'd both still make the time. -- Heather
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As far as I know, their are not seatbelts on school buses because they were being used as weapons. Let this stand as a sad reflection of our times. At one of those patrol officer away week-long overnight camps, they taught us the safe way to sit on a school bus- the most safe, and there is a most safe. To rub it in, while driving along fairly slowly, they slammed hte brakes suddenly. Everyone that wasn't sitting properly went flying around- everyone who was was didn't.
In Your Dreams- I didn't realize you were a teenager. You are correct- I try to do what I can but wouldn't disrepesct in adult; however, on your horse it is YOUR rules. The fact that you are a teenager doesn't change this. If she wants to risk that, your animal is not her ground.
Xegeba- In response to paying for everything under the sun: AMEN! In my area going to some public schools is to expose oneself to things that are compelty and totally by any line 100%unappropriate. There are some great teachers but very few of them. They let the students get away with some unmentionable things before thier eyes simply because they are afriad of them; I've always heard perfectly calm, sensible, friendly adults tell the admisnitration things; and had them be shouted and cursed at. So we get the honor of both paying for private school and of paying for the public education that is unmentionable for kids to be exposed to in some cases. Had to get that at.
El Grande- Just becuase YOU think something is a so-what, doesn't mean the rest of us do.
In response to ER stats- Well, it doesn't say how many accidents there are, but it does say how many invovle emergency professional in-hospital treatment! The only reason that would be an unfair stat was if they counted every other fall in every other sport but riding and only counted riders in the ER.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xegeba:
DMK, I didn't get what you got from her posts, but I find Calling the grass blue, when my husband tells me it's green is healthy for my heart, not to mention the fact that it drives him whacko.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fair enough xegeba, since I mostly can't figure out what the hell you are talking about and have come to the conclusion you musta read something I didn't write. Or you sure as heck got something out of it that I didn't put there...
On the other hand I don't particularly care what color the grass is, as both horses were exceptional whilst working across it tonight.
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