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  • Longeing on hills?

    I recently moved to a new boarding barn... old barn had hundreds of acres of HILLY trail riding, which was awesome. New place is smaller and significantly flatter; however, there is one unused pasture which has a decent slope to it, so I'd like to make use of the terrain for conditioning.

    If I longe in the hilly pasture, what's a good amount of time to start with and work up to for longeing on a hill? I RARELY longe my horse-- the last time was probably 6+ months ago. He's a 7-year old OTTB, in pretty good shape, but he could use some improvements in his topline. I am basically just a pleasure rider, with the occasional schooling show and baby-beginner starter horse trial here and there.

    Any tips/advice? Thanks!
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  • #2
    It's a good idea, but with some caveats.

    First, this work done for the purposes of a topline might mean you need side reins, bitting rig or contraption of your choice to help your horse make a good decision about using his body as you'd like, not just throwing his head and neck up and down to balance.

    You also want to control his speed.

    Make sure the circle is large enough, too.

    All of this brings me to my second point: You horse needs lots of ligament fitness to do this. Smaller circle on inconsistent footing, up and down hill, not carefully balanced will tax ligaments large and small in his legs more than you think.

    Yes, he is "in shape"-- perhaps in terms of cardio and the usual "gameness" that comes with an OTTB. But does he have the long slow walking and trotting base that make his legs strong enough to keep up?

    If you think you need some of this slow work, you can get this done to an extent with your lunging program. You'll just do that more slowly--walking and trotting without too much pace on the hill in a frame.
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      #3
      I actually do have a surcingle and side reins, only used them a couple of times a year or so ago when I got them. I'm thinking if I want to longe with side reins though, I should probably start off with them on a flat surface for a while, no?

      I longed him for a couple of minutes in the hill-field a few days ago, just to see how it would go... he maintained a steady trot both ways, but to the right (his less-favored direction), he kept drifting into a smaller circle by his own choice. I honestly don't longe him enough to know if he does this on the flat also. I ashamedly admit that I don't utilize longeing nearly as often as I probably should... he's not a horse that ever needs to have the sass longed out of him before a ride, so I usually just hop on and go.

      MVP, thanks for your very helpful info...
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      • #4
        Your horse sounds cool. It also sounds like you are good at doing what he needs and figuring out what that is, plus how not to hurt him.

        Yes, I'd start out on the flat in your side reins. I rarely lunge horses unless I have a reason. And I shape my lunging and equipment to that purpose. With a good-minded one like yours, I'd only put him on a lunge line, and then only with all the equipment, if I wanted to build top line. As you know, this isn't the only way to do it, and you can use lunging intermittently with whatever else you do. It keeps them interested while still going through the same butt-building routine every dang day.

        So I'd give him a long warm up where he can cruise around and then hook up the side reins for walking and trotting in both directions for no more than 15 minutes. Do this on the flat. When it gets easy or boring, do the same on the hill.

        In both cases you can add transitions. They won't be of the same quality you can produce under saddle, but they'll keep his mind engaged and he'll use his body ok in the side reins. You can also add lengthenings and coming back at the trot. On the hill, ask for more coming up and settling coming down. Watch for signs of hiney tiredness and be conservative. Trotting down hill on a turn can tax the stifle before anything else and you don't want to screw that joint up.

        It may be a while before he can canter worth a damn on the hill. That's kind of nice-- you have a distant goal to work toward.

        I'll ride or lunge a horse in his weak direction 60%-70% of the time. I'm an OCD stickler for symmetry in horses. That can be tough with an OTTB, I know. To the right, when the circle gets too small, make him leg yield out with your body or your whip. That harder work will either teach him or work on his weak right hind. Either way, it's all good.

        Just keep think as you have and doing what you do with a plan that you tailor to your horse each day and you'll enjoy the topline building project.
        The armchair saddler
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        • #5
          This is the program I have used. Best on a slight incline, not a cliff!

          Everyday for the first week:
          5 min one direction, rest, 5 min other direction.

          Week 2:
          Same thing, but 3x a week.

          The following week
          do the same but twice a week.


          I don't use any training devices on a hill lunge because I want the horse to learn to carry themselves on tricky terrain. Because of this I allow them to break gait (back to walk) if they need to, then ask them to trot again.

          I did this with my mare last winter/spring because for some reason she was just not feeling balanced and round like normal. The first few times she could barely keep up the trot for one lap and she was ALL over the place. Her head was up on the up slope and she would run the down part (not because she was 'hot' but because her carriage was way off). By the end of the first week the changes were obvious in her carriage. She was stretching on the uphill and she could maintain her gait for several laps.

          Good luck with it! And be patient!

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          • #6
            My entire pasture (which is my riding area) is on a gentle slop so whenever I longe it's on a "hill".

            The ground is wet and everything is gross so even though I'm not a huge fan of longing (not for ethical or horse care reasons I just don't like it, it makes me dizzy!) I've been doing it recently to keep the boys moving.

            I either just do it in a halter or put on a bridle and loose side reins. I only do it for about 5-7 mins in each direction and do walk/trot/walk transitions.

            When I first started they were a bit clumsy and slippy but they are OTTBs and have a pretty good sense of self preservation. Lets be honest they raced on some really bad tracks and kept all 4 legs under them, they can handle trotting around my field!
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            • #7
              basic rules I use with hills, even time in each direction, never push too hard, start with the "weaker" side, i used to change directions 4 times. some times i would just hand walk/trot serpentines up and down the hill next to the horse, gives you a little more consciousness about how much more work the hill is when you are actually doing it yourself. Also you could try walking/jogging/running a few laps in each direction on the hill by yourself to get a feel for it. Down hill is just as hard if not harder for a horse than uphill.

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