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Spin off- how do you handle the heavier riders, as an instructor?

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  • Spin off- how do you handle the heavier riders, as an instructor?

    First off, I don't teach anymore, but, when I did, this was an occasional issue.

    Now, I am also about 20# heavier than I'd like to be, in order to feel the way that I'd like to feel. Having said that, I am a size 10. Not morbidly obese.

    How do you, as an instructor, deal with the goals of a person who is more than just a bit heavy? I do believe that you need to be absolutely honest about goals, and what can, and cannot be accomplished in each discipline, at each level.

    I do think that we all have gaps in our view of reality, as it relates to our physique.

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    Well, there's no reason heavy riders cannot set and meet goals, provided they or their instructors have suitable horses, in terms of temperament, athletic ability and weight-carrying ability. Many of us expand a little or a lot as we age, but we keep our basic riding skills. In my experience, it comes down to the question of whether I have a suitable horse, if the student in question doesn't own one.

    As to goal-setting, you have to look at each individual situation. Are the student's goals realistic? Is her/his weight getting in the way of meeting them? Or is it a question of fitness? For instance, if your student wants to run a Novice event, but gets winded cantering for short periods, you might discuss the need to build rider fitness to meet the Novice goal. Building fitness may peel the weight off, or it may have minimal impact there; it all depends on the individual.

    Does the rider's weight and/or conformation create an obstacle to proper position? Then you have to address this. Again, the "fix" may lead to the rider dropping noticeable weight, or it may not.
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    • #3
      My instructor is/was totally honest with me. I'm a fluffy girl - not hugely obese, but could easily stand to lose 20 pounds. My instructor has, from the beginning, been up front about what I'd have to overcome. Like my girls not sitting the trot as well as the rest of me. LIke wearing a coat no matter how hot because it just looks better. We've worked otu ways to overcome a lot of those, too. She also worked to find me horses that I looked as good as possible on. FWIW, my fitness level (at least when I don't take an unintended month off from riding) is quite good even if I weigh more than I'd like.
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        #4
        I think that fitness is a significant issue. If you are someone who walks, does cardio, or is making some kind of an effort at fitness, that probably puts you into a whole different catagory than those who do not, and still want to ride well.
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        • #5
          why can't you just be blunt and up-front about it? when you go attempt to compete in other athletic endeavors I can assure you the coaches aren't very happy or understanding if you make no effort outside of formal practice time to improve your fitness. DON'T make the issue be the body weight, because it's not; the issue is the rider FIT enough to ride at the level she wants to ride at? and if not, it's your job as a trainer to gently tell her, and provide suggestions about how to achieve her goals. Specific suggestions- not just "try to get some exercise", but say, direct her to a 3X a week pilates class, and suggest 20 minutes a day of brisk walking, or whatever you think is appropriate and necessary.

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          • #6
            I treat it like what it is: an impediment to riding better, if it IS an impediment. Just like too tight calves means you can't sink your heels, or too-weak arms and core means you can't ride effectively...if you are overweight AND weak, we talk strength and conditioning and about how that weakness results in them riding heavy. I say the same thing to slim birds with no core- you are sitting up there like pudding, you need to sit up and ride, and do what it takes off horse to make that possible.

            I don't take 'heavy' riders, I've told folks I don't have a horse suited to carry their weight/stature. I'm not meally mouthed nor am I rude, I'm just plain spoken and try to refer them on if I can think of a place for them to go.

            I'm 20 lbs over where I should be, sure am. but I'm strong under that layer of biscuits

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            • Original Poster

              #7
              I like your attitude, Katarine!

              Unfortunately, it is difficult to discern what someone weighs over phone, and I had a gal come out for a lesson once, many moons ago, who was 5'5", and weighed every bit of 300#. I put her on a nice second level mare, that I had bred and raised, who was of substantial build. The mare turned around and looked at her when she got on- she really had never had someone that large on her, before.

              I proceeded with the lesson, but I realized it was not a functional situation, and I did not teach her again.

              I know of someone who decided to start riding at 45, and went over to a friends place to ride her supposedly very quiet gelding. She was very heavy. The horse apparently spooked, and, being inexperienced AND extremely top heavy, she rolled off of the back end of the horse, fracturing her spine in several places. She was at Jeff for some time, and, fortunately, came out of it OK.

              That stuff can happen to any of us, but I think you have to consider all of the possibilities.
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              • #8
                ASB invite them to come visit the barn and audit a lesson. easy peasy and no one gets in a tight. I learned that the hard way, with a delightful gentleman who was a real treat but way too heavy + unfit for me to feel ok about putting him on a horse. We had a very nice chat and he left my place with some names and ideas about other options, and a better idea of what he was asking the horse to do.

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                • #9
                  This is me http://www.abernathyfarm.com/meandrickysidepass.JPG

                  I am 5'6" I weigh 195 lbs, I wear a size 9/10, I have the outline of ab muscles-not rock solid abs by no means, but you can see them! According to BMI I am not over weight, I am obese!

                  Ricky (the horse) is 15.1 and about 1100 lbs

                  Point of the story, don't get to hung up on a number-for instance, no riders over 200lbs. I carry 200lbs just fine. Someone else, who could even be the same height as me-5'6", may not do it as well because we have different bone structures and muscle mass.

                  BTW I weighed 165 in high school and wore a size 13. I am now 30lbs heavier and 2 sizes smaller so go figure

                  Basically you have to give it a shot or have something like you have to be athletic enough to be able to mount up-or what ever. Its your athletic ability/balance, not your size that determines how well you will be able to ride.

                  BTW I always use mounting blocks and I have seen people that have trouble getting on a 15 hand horse with a mounting block, those are the people that need to shape up some before starting to ride-its for their own safety
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                  • #10
                    Lmabernathy- I think you really hit on something. I don't think it's how much you weigh as much as how you carry it. I have seen riders who can carry 200lbs and look great doing it, and I saw a 175lb rider flip a horse because she was too forward and he couldn't rebalance.

                    I was 170lbs in the picture, and am 5'7". Could afford to be down about 15lbs from there, but I'm not holding my breath for that!
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