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  • #21
    Young (5) gelding can be mouthy and is not allowed to nuzzle (occasional licking OK), but can indicate where he wants to be groomed by turning his head, craning his neck, etc. However, this is somewhat problematic because he would like me to spend all my time working on his head and neck and I have other areas I must cover, too.

    Old mare (26) is polite and is allowed nuzzling, caresses, etc.--basically anything she wants.

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    • #22
      Yes! The two of us should get a room.

      Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post


      Some of them eventually earn the privilege, but a young'un? Nope. I wouldn't allow it.
      This is how I roll.

      Young ones learn a clear limit. I get to invade their space, they don't get to invade mine. But the old campaigners? They earn the privilege and know not to escalate to a nip.

      I like the idea of backing into them and raising a leg! I have never tried this International Sign for "you're pissing me off now...." but I'd like to try.

      The kind of horse who begins with flirty lips and then crosses the line to teeth? I have bitten back once or twice. They always look really surprised.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by dwblover View Post
        Geeze, the horse is just showing affection thus far.
        Could be. It's a form of affection I don't care for. So I don't allow it.
        Obviously many others feel differently. Fine with me.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by mvp View Post
          This is how I roll.

          Young ones learn a clear limit. I get to invade their space, they don't get to invade mine.
          Exactly how I see it. It doesn't feel like "affection" to me - it feels like pushy horse. At least it does from a young one. Old horses earn their privileges.
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          • #25
            My gelding really wants to groom me back when I'm on his left side. I don't allow his mouth to come into my space, because he's playful and likes to escalate into nipping, but when he wants to groom me back but is being polite about it and just turning his head toward me, I hold my hand up in front of him for a minute--he lips at it and that seems to satisfy the urge, and then I can get back to grooming. (:
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            • #26
              I'll scratch my mare's withers and immediately she will respond and nibble my back.

              She's never gotten mouthy or nippy about it, so no big deal for us.
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              • #27
                Yes I let my mare do it. She usually starts when I hit her favorite spots. She is very gentle.

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                • #28
                  Yes, my horse grooms me - but I don't like it when he uses the dandy brush or curry comb (but body brush is ok).

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                  • #29
                    all the time.does same things like you stated in your post.its a sign of good bonding and excepts you as part of the herd and also just showing that he likes the vigorous grooming and is returning the favor
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                    • #30
                      The horse I've been riding loves to lick. He will lick your hands, your jacket, your hair, your neck (...oops, I know that's not so good but it tickles nicely!) as long as you will let him.

                      You do have to watch your zippers on coats etc., because he'll start to chew, zip you up and down a few times and never let go.
                      Forward momentum!

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by cnvh View Post
                        I wouldn't call it "grooming" exactly, but my horse seems to be obsessed with my ponytail. During our post-ride cool-out walks, he has lately taken to following me and "snuffling" my ponytail for as long as I let him; if I swat him away, a few minutes later he's back at it. He's never tried to grab it or bite it, just seems to want to play with it while we're walking. Not quite sure what that's all about...
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                        Jake mutual grooms me when I scratch his withers, but he knows that no teeth are *ever* to be felt. He also nuzzles my back when I am trimming his front feet, and wiggles his lips in my hair while I am 'rolling his toes'. I come out of that process looking disheveled at best , but he is such a good boy, it's all good.

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                        • #32
                          Several of the horses at the rescue groom the air (or a nearby wall) when we get to a good spot. They're just...itchy. Especially with all the winter hair coming out. If they try to groom us, we'll just push their noses away and they usually get the idea. They're just too big to be allowed to do that, but I do like watching their expressions of ecstasy when we find the right spot.

                          My horse isn't that demonstrative and doesn't try to groom me, though he does like lipping my hands and is allowed to do that because the teeth don't come into play.
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                          • #33
                            Occasionally, yes. I love it . It's so endearing and affectionate. If teeth get involved, though, there will be a discussion about manners.
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                            • #34
                              My old man grooms us. He's 28 and has done it for as long as I've known him (17 years). He's always very respectful and only uses his lips and nose, never his teeth. He will rub quite hard though, especially if it's an especially itchy spot, he's trying to get me to rub harder then!

                              He's very funny about it though, it's hilarious the look he has on his face. He doesn't care who is there, he'll rub anyone as long as we're rubbing him, and he'll even tell us when he's itchy. He's been known to undo more then a few bras in his day!
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                                #35
                                Theres one old guy at the barn who gets lose lips when you groom him. They both flap in the breeze while he tries to turn his head upside down. Its so cute but wierd looking all the same!
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                                • #36
                                  Absolutely! My previous competition horse was a huge groomer and we spent many hours bonding in this way. He still knew who was boss- the herd boss in the field would groom with him as well... so it doesn't mean that they are taking over or being pushy.

                                  Our 3 year old filly grooms as well. The one thing I did have to stop with her early... she wants to back her butt into you so that you will scratch her rump! Very cute when she was tiny and we were bucket feeding her. Quickly realized it was not going to be cute as a full grown percheron

                                  I kind of feel sad for those of you who have not enjoyed the grooming experience with your horse, but to each his own.
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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post
                                    I also don't want them thinking I'm a pasturemate. I am She Who Must Be Obeyed.
                                    There's still a pecking order/He/She Who Must Be Obeyed in the pasture...

                                    My mare is alpha mare in her group (well, save for a week when she was supplanted by a mare who's since been moved to a different paddock), and you can be sure she knows I'm the boss of her.
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                                    • #38
                                      Ok, but what has mutual grooming to do with pecking order?

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                                      • #39
                                        Yes, absolutely, both my horses do.

                                        My one guy will gently rub me in my neck or the back of my head (so I can wash my hair 'again' ). I often joke and tell my husband I'm off to R's stall to get a neck & head massage. It really feels nice. He doesn't seem to ask for anything in return for it. I just go in his stall and skip out or hang up a haynet or so and there he comes, always starts by sniffing my neck and then starts to make the curling movements with his lips, ever so sweet.

                                        My other horse does so too, but more when you groom him in the neck, it does happen he does it just like that when you are in his stall, he goes for my head too, dunno why, I guess they like to feel hair, makes them think "mummy's manes" .
                                        However this guy doesn't realize how strong he is and can be a bit clumsy unintentionally, I have to be careful not to be knocked over or he gets so carried away, there's a gently bite in there too, might feel nice to another horse, but uhm not to me.

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                                        • #40
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                                          Mutual grooming has a lot to do with pecking order. If you watch horses in the pasture grooming, they will have little "disagreements" as they mutually groom. These are small ways of reestablishing the pecking order, affirming it or trying "one-up-manship" on the other horse. Horses are maneuvering within the pecking order constantly. And, if they are stalled overnight, they reaffirm the pecking order every morning.
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