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  • #81
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Janet:
    What does "spannable" mean?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Spannable means being able to place your hands, middle finger touching middle finger, and thumb touching or overlapping thumb around a terrier's chest just behind the front legs while lifting the front end off the ground. You are feeling the size, shape and flexibility of the ribcage. Ideally the terrier's chest "squishes" a bit rather than being hard which makes it easier for the terrier to navigate underground.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>BTW, my great uncle was, in his younger days (first- middle half of the 20th century) a terrier man for the hunt. He lived in Oakham, in the County of Rutland, in England. I don't know the name of the hunt, but it was run by the local Duke, on whose estate Uncle Arthur had his primary job, as head gardener.

    He had some funny stories.

    Janet
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    I'll ask Jim Meads next chance I get. He's the running photographer and he knows every hunt in England.

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    • #82
      One of the things I'd like to point out about the AKC is that they do not set the standards. The national breed club sets the standards and submits them for AKC approval. The Border Collie Society of America recently revised their standard, sent it to AKC, and it was approved. Like the JRT/PRT there are huge fights and arguments between conformation/working/performance people and registeries as well. I own working bcs and do show in AKC performance events...even, gasp, conformation from time to time. We lose a lot in conformation to those dogs from import show lines, but I can't blame the AKC for "ruining" the breed. The breeders ruin the breed. The exhibitors ruin the breed. AKC registers the breed. I am also amazed at how extremists from all groups (working vs. conformation, AKC vs. USBCHA), don't realize that they are also hurting the breed.

      Ok...off my soap box and back to lurkdom!!

      And to keep it horse related, I think it would be great if a network, like USA, stepped up and broadcast live finals of a big show on an annual basis. I for one would love to see it! The reason Westminster is so much fun to watch is that it is the only time you see all of the dogs in every group, live, at a show.

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      • #83
        Sandy M., what a cute story. Blondie has always wanted a dog, herself, but she can't find a dog that wants her Of course, that's because she runs after them to try and get them to play

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        • #84
          Yes, my horse's interaction with the Viszla made me fall for the breed.. so beautiful, but we have a Min Pin and our lease limits us to one dog and/or 1 cat, so no Vizsla for the immediate future. Plus, I have the problem of being a commuter, and leaving a 7 lb. Min Pin alone all day in a duplex versus leaving a .. what, 45 lb. Vizsla ?... wouldn't be fair to the big dog. Still, we do have a backyard so perhaps someday, with a doggie door.....

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          • #85
            My favorite dog (Greater Swiss Mountain Dog) barely makes the rankings, but, man, are they gorgeous. One of these days I will have one.

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            • #86
              Thank you Kryswyn for explaining better than i could. JRTCA member too? Your history was exactly the speal i had for the Youth events at trails. Now that ive aged out of the division, ive forgotten most of the nity gritty details.

              I know OLN has some jumper stuff, but its normally only Grand Prix. For Upperville they did show a clip of the hunters (what did you blink, sorry you missed it. ) I wish we could get them, or USA or some one to contract to air a show once a year... *sigh* only in my dreams..

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              • #87
                I'm not sure any horse show on TV could be as popular as Westminster. With a dog show, you have a bit of a "built in" audience: dog owners (who want to cheer on their breed) and wanna-be dog owners who are looking for a breed (heaven help them if they don't look beyond the little descriptions). Not that I wouldn't love to see more shows on TV...I just think they'd get a smaller audience.

                The newf was beautiful, but a very sketchy temperment judging by that show. The announcers described him as a skittish dog (not what a newf should be), and as someone pointed out, it looked like he was going after another handler during the handshakes. And now I'm sure he'll go on to father countless pups....
                "Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." ~Mal, Firefly

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                • #88
                  I personally agree with the Great Dane comment. The only dogs I have ever had have been Danes. They have been loyal, protective, and very gentle giants. Very sensitive, too. While he would be rough with me, Kaiser would be very gentle with my grandfather. I also agree with the peke comment. :-Þ My affinity for Danes has led me to a dislike most small dogs (of course not all of them are this way), not for their size, but for what I personally perceive as their inability to not sound and act like a wind up dog.
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                    #89
                    I love danes, but their short life span could just break your heart (over and over and over).

                    Naturally I was rooting for the corgi big time. But I have to agree that the newfie was showing it all that day (but I thought the corgi gave him a run for his money on presence). And of course when you heard that the BIS judge had sent him to the group last year, well, you knew he already really liked the dog. I sort of figured it was his to lose.

                    And to continue the horse related angle, the dog I most want is a Borzoi. Unfortunately I read up on sight hound traits and decided that was an inappropriate behavior for a dog I wanted to take to horse shows, to the barn, on trail rides and various other places all without fences but with much in the way of "visual temptations".

                    So I reverted back to my old standby, the herding group (used to have an aussie and a border) and went with a corgi (much more closely working bred than show bred). Meanwhile whenever my friend with jacks wails about how obedient and attuned to me my corgi is, I point at her jacks and say "terrier - only pays attention to small edible animals", then point to Casey and say "herding dog - bred to watch and respond to people - hundred of years of selction rarley goes wrong." It pisses her off until I wail about laying down rat poison at the barn. Then the argument gets reversed.

                    But it's great to have a corgi. What other dog would do this when you comandeer your nephew's X-mas present on Christmas morning?

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                    • #90
                      As I said before, I have a Dane. I love, love, love him! People always tell me how much they like the Danes, but then they say they would never own one because of their "short" life spans. I always tell them that you can never predict a lifespan. When I picked out Norman, I had the pleasure of meeting his 12 year old grandmother. Really old for a Dane, but boy was she in good spirits and getting around pretty well for an old girl. Not only that but his breeder had 4 Danes that were over 10. I also have a JRT that has a terminal illness. My vet told me that he would only be around for a few more months. That was in the summer. Well, we made Christmas and his birthday is tomorrow. He will be 7. It's hard to keep a Jack down, so I won't give up until he does. So, I think, you get what you like and be happy for anytime that you have them in your life.

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                      • #91
                        Oh mein Gott in Himmel! It is the Yellow Scooter of Death!

                        Casey! Run for your life!!

                        ~Kryswyn~
                        "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
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                        • #92
                          Hey Tomboy, yes I'm JRTCA. My youth handler just aged out last year I hope to have some young stock for her to show in the regular classes this year while she does agility with her own dogs.

                          ~Kryswyn~
                          "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
                          ~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
                          Check out my Kryswyn JRTs on Facebook

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                          • #93
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DMK:
                            What other dog would do this when you comandeer your nephew's X-mas present on Christmas morning? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            Note to self: Beware of red-headed women riding scooters with dogs in shotgun position...

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                            • #94
                              Shall be on the lookout for dog scooters.

                              I have a friend who went to dog camp (yes, dog camp) with her JRT type dog. They had various activities for the dogs, including a herd of sheep one day. My friend said that it was amazing to watch the herding dogs, some of which had probably never herded much of anything, let alone seen a sheep, figure out what to do. And where was Topper (the dog, not Beezer's horse) while all this was going on -- wandering around the edge of the field looking for gophers.

                              If only my trainer's terrier could catch a member or two of the rapidly expanding family of mice that has taken up residence behind my trunk and between the trunk and the cover. I'm afraid that an EIR will be necessary if I ever have to move the trunk--destruction of mouse habitat.
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                              • #95
                                Usually, dogs "scooting" is not a good thing and frequently means a trip to the vet for deworming or expression of anal glands...

                                &lt;Question: would an expression of anal glands be a PUCKER?

                                ~Kryswyn~
                                "Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo"
                                ~Kryswyn~ Always look on the bright side of life, de doo, de doo de doo de doo
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                                • #96
                                  LOL, Peggy! But I have to say, Topper, Beezer's horse, would also be found wandering around the edge of the field, but in his case, he'd be looking for that other G -- grass.

                                  My two JRTs say they can come help train your trainer's terrier ... one, however, is very much more of a doer while the other is, well, how shall we say it? A pretender.

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                                  • #97
                                    DMK, I love herding breeds too. (Though what does it say about me that I love how attentive they are to me?)

                                    However, my two shelties (both bred for the agility ring and not the conformation ring) have a bit too much of the herding instinct. Nope, they've never even seen a sheep--but when my nieces and nephews come to visit you find the dogs frantically running about trying to get the scurrying children back into an orderly herd!



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                                    • #98
                                      My "imported irish jack russell" , is, I believe a cross between a JR and a Corgi, with perhaps a little hound thrown in for good measure. He corrects the horses, (and kids/cats), when they are misbehaving, but has never hurt any of the above. He does, however, hunt down rats with a vengeance. He also does not stray from the barn when I'm there. He settles down right outside the ring and watches me ride, not matter other temptations. He and Gramento loff each other. Mini doesn't like ANY dog.

                                      We have plenty of bunnies and squirrels in my backyard. I have been able to stop him, while in pursuit, with just a word. Nope, he's not all JR!

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                                      • #99
                                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ShowJumps:
                                        The show entries filled two hours after they opened! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        POSSIBLY because the top X number of dogs in each breed are INVITED. So that leaves a few slots in each breed for actual ENTRIES.

                                        LaurieB or someone else who has shown there can answer this question better than I can. And just think how quickly events fill up. If you do not get your entry blank returne 100% filled out correctly and with a check for payment in full, you will not get into the more popular events.

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                                        • One of the things I find frustrating about Westminster is that you see a dog and fall in love with the breed, but... then try to find one!

                                          Every year, I fall in love with the Dandie Dinmont and the Italian Spumoni. I have even contacted the AKC for a list of breeders. But, IF you can get one, you are looking at a long wait -- we're talking years, here. (And I need instant gratification...)

                                          I guess that is why the puppy mills survive. A dog goes Best In Show and the responsible breeders cannot supply all of the people who want one. So the puppy mills step in to fill the demand. I used to be a cocker person, and I know that being America's number one dog for so long really ruined the breed.

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