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    Ayerab Show Enablers: Ch. 3

    SO, the new/old Ancient Passier Century miraculously FITS the Puffy Pinto Pony. And, membership in the new sporty ayerabby thingy includes my AHA membership... SO...

    Bridle question: I have a Tory rolled browband and rolled cavesson (french) with flat cheekpieces, that I could put on a regular hook-stud headstall. His Princeness' head is gorgeous. Very refined, a titch of white (star/strip/snip) and flaxen forelock.

    With that, would you do round front reins or hook stud flat reins?

    I *know* the fashion issues aren't ALL that important... but I don't want to embarass ourselves.

    Option #2 is a Nunn Finer pazdded fancy stitched bridle... He looks fabu in rolled... and I *think* the rolled nose/brow is a good compromise... but not sure.

    Also, has anyone ever padded up a saddle pad rather than add knee pads/rolls to a saddle? I need just a leetle more support on Himself--his back is SO flat/wide, and yet he's not big in the chest... so you're W I D E at the top, and then kind of nothing under your knees. I had thigh blocks added to his Passier dressage saddle... But thinking he's the only one that needs the support with the Century, and maybe I could pad the *pad* instead of modifying the $addle it$elf? I dunno. Thinking out loud.

    Got one of the Ebay show shirts in.. .is closer to blue than the 'lilac' it was labelled, but goes nicely with the jacket.

    His mane is bohemian... long enough to french braid... would you shorten/trim/pull and braid? (I've done in the past, it doesn't horrify me) or go with the neat french??

    FINALLY... (well, not really, I'm sure there'll be further chapters! ) traditionally a stallion's forelock is left unbraided as the universal 'stallion' sign (rather than tail ribbons etc.) But is this not followed in hunters? Ayerabby huntes? Sporthorse Ayerabby hunters??? (which I realize are two different creatures... just not entirely sure which way we'll go yet!

    Thanks for your indulgence. I'm as excited as I was when we did our first tadpole CT a few years ago. Something different and fun. No 'preconceived' notions of how we should do. If I stay on and in the ring, it's all good.
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    Ow?

    If you're looking for owies, I ripped my nail off my finger today.
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      rest of it's there now. Fighting with the mini-keyboard on the new netbook. I was taught to type by NUNS. Anything other than feet flat, elbows bent, asdf-jkl; is... challenging...
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        Ooh, what netbook did you get? I'm still after one. Nuns scare me.

        Ahem, to get back on track- go with the tack that suits him best. The rest of it, I can't help you with sorry.
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          Most in my region braid the stallions' forelocks. I braid Treasures but then again he has SO MUCH hair that it really needs to be braided or you can't see him (and he can't see you lol)

          You can either pull/thin and braid as a hunter/dressage horse or you can neat french braid, running braid, or...what is that weave thingy...continental? braid. There is a poster on here (KnottedPony I think is her name) that braids at Arab shows in her area I bet she could give more info on what everyone is doing in regards to forelock.

          I prefer Arabians to have the long flowing mane as described in the rule book for main ring classes. I braid for hunter but in the style of the breed-french or continental.
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            Hi PP.

            The advantage of the long mane/running braid is it's ease of use. You can put one in quickly and take it out even quicker. The past couple of years I pulled my saddlebred's mane and did hunter braids so that I could stand out from all the other chestnut saddlebreds who did the running braid. This year I think I'm sticking with ease of input; plus my guy is going out in the 24/7 herd for the first time this summer,and he'll need his mane.

            I think even if you go with the rolled brow and noseband I wouldn't go for rolled reins, but that's me.

            And I think most of the arabs I see have their foretops braided if their mane is.

            Best of luck.

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              I loff Ayrabs! Do the running/french braid Make sure to do the forelock (tight so it doesn't look like a croissant).

              Here is how most tie off the braid on Mongo, I actually dislike it but *shrug*

              http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/a...314101012c.jpg

              I think it looks nicer when the end is sewn in under the braid Emir gets everything the best, he is such a love.

              http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/a...314100958b.jpg

              If you have a long day, sew in knots along the braid, stays in a long time then.

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                I saw this in the morning when it was just "ow," and my first thought was, "That's what I felt after my first breed show, too!" They're really very fun, but there is a bit of a learning curve, or at least there was for me.

                Anyway, I'd show him in whatever bridle you think looks best on him. In my area, I've seen rolled bridles in both dressage and hunters. Less in hunters, but I've seen a few and it didn't seem to affect anything. You want to show off his Arab-ness IMO, so go with what shows off his head.

                I personally like French braids in longer manes, but whether you want to pull it and put it in normal braids is just personal preference as both are acceptable for sport horses. As for the forelock, in my area a lot of people seem to leave the forelocks loose on every horse regardless of sex, but personally I prefer it braided. With my horses, for the most part I didn't clip their bridle paths or anything and then just braided the forelock into the mane. Again, though, I think it's mostly personal preference.
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                  Like I've said several times before, you really should check out Ferrara or Osteen-Schatzberg's photography sites to see what's winning and what they look like so you know what's expected. It really does show you all you'll need to know. If you want to do well, you should emulate the look of the people who are winning at the top levels.

                  The forelock absolutely should be braided without a doubt. And no continental braids - running/french. I've never seen anyone show in a rolled bridle. If you go to nationals, nobody is showing without the forelock braided, so why would you?! From what you've said before this sounds like a pretty local affair. Arab people are pretty nice as a whole and they aren't going to laugh at you. But personally, as a groom, I want my horses to go out there and look like they fit in with the accepted, current standards. I can't control what the judges pick, or their preferences. But I'd rather not stick out like a sore thumb, so I would go with what others are doing rather than try to fit everything else into a mold with stuff I already had...

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                    I personally prefer a pulled mane with hunter braids but if you are totally in love with your horse's mane, french braid it but keep it close to the crest. If you are showing in hand, I wouldn't do the scallop thing since I think it doesn't allow the neck to be shown off. I am also into plain brown tack, maybe a raised nose and brow band but if your horse is a dressage type, then black and some decoration is ok. If the tack is clean and appropriate, I wouldn't stress on it since you are not going to win or lose by it! (unless it is against the rules type issues)

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                      Dazed... I do have to go back and look at Scottsdale now that it's done. There actually seemed to be a little bit of variation in the first set of Nat'l photos...

                      And I too was a professional groom--just in different disciplines--which probably accounts for my obsessive-compulsive behaviour on this one!

                      I am NOT in love with long manes by any means. This is the first time in 10 years he's had a long mane again. I do braid Lusos for presentations & competition, so know about high, tight french/running braids if we go that way.

                      Braided forelock it is.

                      Definitely not looking at big stuff... well, looking at the Big E as the biggest maybe... Springfield's about as far as we *can* travel, and even that might not happen this year... will be starting local to be sure we're not going to embarrass ourselves, then regional types. Hope like heck I can GET to at least one to scout it out before GOING...

                      So I guess I'll use the current (brown) bridle to start, and if/when we decide to go anywhere bigger, look at a more traditional bridle. That works for the pocketbook nicely too.

                      The other question is, if we do Pinto shows, are they going to be altogether different too?
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                        If you have a look put together that fits in on the class A Arab circuit you will definatly be good for the Pinto circuit.

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                          Originally posted by Renae View Post
                          If you have a look put together that fits in on the class A Arab circuit you will definatly be good for the Pinto circuit.
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                            Originally posted by Renae View Post
                            If you have a look put together that fits in on the class A Arab circuit you will definatly be good for the Pinto circuit.
                            Ditto this-one of my good friend shows her dual-registered paint on the pinto circuit and I often see saddle type horses presented as if it were a class A Arab/ASB/Morgan show while the stock type look as if it were an APHA/AQHA etc. Not that there is that much difference but they're minor (just easier to spot when quarter horse and arabian are right next to each other)
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