• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Looking to buy a truck..first time buyer.. tips?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Looking to buy a truck..first time buyer.. tips?

    So I'm about to embark on a hunt for my first truck.. I'm getting tired of driving the ol' sedan around and begging for rides to shows. I have access to a trailer, but it really is time for me to find a proper towing vehicle. I've decided I don't want to pay insurance on 2 vehicles, so my 13 year old car will be sold. My commute to work is only about 15 minutes, and the horses are at home, so I think it makes decent sense that it will be my only vehicle. I will be putting around 4-5k down and financing the rest, not looking finance more than 10k.

    What I will be towing is a small 2 horse for now, and down the road I'd like to find a gooseneck, but I am in no hurry what so ever. More than likely will be having 2 horses in it going to the shows. I've heard people say that a Ford F150 or a Chevy 1500 wouldn't be enough, so am I right to consider something larger? Any advantage to buying from a dealer vs. private party? (Though I have heard that depending on the age of the vehicle, some banks won't finance a PP buy, and a loan would be considered 'personal'). I hear Diesels are more expensive to fix (?) Any other first time buyer tips?

  • #2
    My personal opinion is to have more truck than you think you need. My first truck was used, I had my trusted mechanic go to the auctions and buy it for me. It was a one-ton gas hog, but since it was not a full time vehicle, that was fine with me. Second truck I bought (custom order) brand new from the dealer, I'm still driving it 8 years later - a 2500HD to pull a two horse BP with dressing room (all steel).

    I don't have any advice on dealer vs private party, hopefully other folks can chime in on that part.
    There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams


    • #3
      I know you're looking for truck specifications and so on, but, regarding the purchase of any vehicle, I'd suggest that before you buy (or sell), check out www.carbuyingtips.com. I have no connection to the site other than finding it a wonderful resource when I last bought and sold a vehicle.


      • #4
        No matter who you buy the truck from, have it inspected by a good mechanic before you commit to it. Also, be careful with dealers because most of them know nothing about towing a horse trailer and will tell you what you want to hear in order to make a sale.

        I looked at trucks via dealers and private parties and ended up buying via a PP which was a much simpler transaction.
        Proud owner of a Slaughter-Bound TB from a feedlot, and her surprise baby...!


        • #5
          Tips: do not rely on what the salesman says about towing capacity, the presence of a tow package, etc.

          A Ford 150 or Chevy 1500 can be fine for a 2-horse bumper pull, depending on the engine size, tow package, axle ratio, etc. Buy or borrow Neve Scheve's (sp?) book on trailering, which explains what you need in a truck and all the variables you have to think about.
          ...somewhere between the talent and the potato....


          • #6
            Buy the biggest you can afford (trust me got a 1500 first for a 2 horse hated it).

            Buy a diesel.

            Buy a 4x4 (you don't need one till you do).

            Personally I always buy through a private seller never a dealer as the prices (in my opinion) are better (that said hubby is pretty damn knowledgable about cars/trucks so helps).
            I have horse to sell to you. Horse good for riding. Can pull cart. Horse good size. Eats carrots and apples. Likes attention. Move head to music. No like opera! You like you buy.


            • #7
              I agree with those who suggest you buy a little more truck than you think you might need.

              Personally I have an F250 SRW 4WD- one of the wonderful older powerstroke diesels. They are more expensive to buy (and to service) than gas engines BUT ... they also have more towing power; it is not at all unusual to get 250k -300k miles out of a well maintained diesel engine, and often more. I pull my 2 +1 GN with a dressing room and even fully loaded, the truck handles it easily.

              I got a long bed because I didn't want to worry about bumping my truck with the peak of the gooseneck in tight turns, and selected an extended rather than crew cab since I am almost always by myself and didn't need a ton of "back seat" room.

              Definitely have a "PPE" done on whatever truck you buy if you go used. You would be amazed at what they come up with! For around $150-200, you will find out exactly what sort of condition the vehicle is in and maybe get a little bargaining power with your seller.

              I looked at both PP and dealer sales and purchased my truck from a small used car dealer in NY. The owner is a horseman and was super helpful - he installed my GN hitch and has offered great service since I purchased the truck.

              Happy truck shopping
              We move pretty fast for some rabid garden snails.


              • Original Poster

                Thanks for the wonderful tips everyone! Yes, I will definitely do a truck PPE. Have a great mechanic I completely trust. My route will be for something used, and think I will be concentrating on a 250 or 2500. For those of you who bought in a PP sale or small dealer sale, and got a loan, was it able to be considered an auto loan or a personal loan? My credit is excellent, hopefully this process will go smoothly!


                • #9
                  The only thing to consider with a 250 is how you can register it. I will be getting the 150 with the bigger engine/higher axle ratio for a 2 horse because it will be my only vehicle. I found out that (at least in NY) a 250 must be registered commercial unless it has a full cap. There are many parkways and other roads around here that do not allow commercial vehicles- including the one to the tack shop, and one of my ways to work. It just wouldn't work for me to have a vehicle that could only go on half the highways.