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Horse falls out of trailer on freeway - amazing result

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  • #21
    I've got TV cameras in my trailer...I like watching my guys as I go down the road. Unless the horses are really raising a fuss, I sure can't tell they're back there.

    There's always the horrid stories of horse's breaking through the rotten trailer floors and basically grinding their legs off on the road...that's a nightmare to just imagine the poor creature's suffering. People can be oblivious.
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      #22
      Originally posted by naturalequus View Post
      Has anyone ever had a horse fall out of their trailer? I find it difficult to believe one would not notice but on the other hand, if you've got a one ton truck and a 4,000lb trailer (such as we do), particularly if it were a gooseneck, maybe you wouldn't feel a 1,200lb horse fall out?! Particularly if it occured quickly and especially if you're inexperienced and/or are distracted (music, road/traffic conditions, etc). I mean, I feel the horses shift too, as a passenger even, however if it's a lighter horse and the driver is not focused or is inexperienced, perhaps it is possible they wouldn't notice (without it being a result of lack of intelligence). They likely would not notice the 'lighter weight', particularly with bigger trailers and lighter horses - you'd just presume the horse is not moving around.

      I am not so sure it is a case of someone being an "asshat", I mean, who actually wants their horse to fall out the back of a trailer, on a freeway? I am sure they did not plan it - accidents happen. I am also not so sure it is fair to condemn or judge without having been there, driving, ourselves. Just sayin'.
      Did you see the horse? It had no halter, it had a bit of bare rope tied around it's neck and when standing tied, looked skinny as heck! Sure, they didn't plan for it to fall out but incredible that it's tail gate, butt bar and head tie would all give way simultaneously and then him NOT notice it was gone. He was an ass.

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      • #23
        I'm going to tell you about an incident that happened to my poor non-horsey husband.
        Friends that lives just 2 miles away asked me to bring home a little 2 yr old pony to sell for them. He wasn't much bigger than most minis. Anyway, I had to work 2nd shift that evening so my husband volunteered to go and pick up pony with my truck and trailer. At the time I had a 2 horse straight load with 3/4 doors on the back. No tack area--just chest bars in the nose of the trailer.
        I get home at 2 A.M. to find every light in the house and barn burning brightly---BAD sign! I no sooner pull into the driveway when Husband runs out of house to tell me he "lost" the pony out of the trailer! My heart imediately droped to the bottoms of my feet. "How did you loose a pony out of the trailer???" Well, Husband and owner of pony loaded pony but since he was sooo small the owner only tied the pony with twine on the left (drivers) side stall and to the chest bar instead of the tie rings. The route from friends house has only one turn (to the right). Husband gets home and carefully backs trailer into driveway. He then goes around to open the back door to get pony out. NO PONY IN LEFT SIDE OF TRAILER. Husband then opens right side door thinking pony managed to get around partition. NO PONY ON RIGHT SIDE. Husband shuts both doors and waits a couple seconds and opens BOTH doors again. NO PONY. "Did you look under the floormats too?" I ask. Husband looked everywhere!!! Husband then gets in truck and re-traces route to friends house. Husband finds pony standing in the cross road where he made the turn. Pony apparently hopped over the rear doors when Husband turned. Husband is a very careful driver and never drove over 25mph and came to a near stop to make the turn. Never felt the pony move let alone jump. Husband put lead on pony and tries to put pony back in trailer. Pony says "NO WAY". Husband ended up leading pony out of the drivers window at snail pace the rest of the way home. I go to barn to check on pony (who is happly munching hay!) with fine tooth comb but could not find a hair out of place! Poor husband! Friend, 20 years later, still teases him about looseing that pony!

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          #24
          Just wondering - even if you didn't feel the shift in weight. Lets assume he went out the back as he couldn't have gone out the bottom. If he had a ramp, presumably you would notice it scraping along the freeway and falling off. If you had a gate with a step-up, you don't notice it wildly swinging open and presumably continuing to bang as you drive along the freeway?

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          • #25
            Maybe it was a ramp load and the horse wasn't tied, turned around, and jumped out. That's one reason I ordered my trailer with doors that go all the way up. There will be no escape. I'm really paranoid about my horse falling out. Among other things.
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            • #26
              OMG ! How TERRIBLE !!! While he was lucky with only so-called minor injuires - he runs the high risk of ROAD FOUNDER. Jingles for the horse to recover and find a new home.
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              • #27
                I would be curious as to how the horse got out of the trailer, no matter how it happened that is one lucky horse.

                For those of you that think the driver should have known.........surely you can't be that ignorant? Do you actually think a driver can tell the difference between the horse acting up then calming down or acting up and then falling out the back? Both ways the trailer stops shaking.

                I think seeing the traffic disruption in the mirror would have been likely. But at highway speeds unless you actually saw the horse, one would be more likely to assume someone behind you blew a tire than you lost your equine passenger.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
                  Just wondering - even if you didn't feel the shift in weight. Lets assume he went out the back as he couldn't have gone out the bottom. If he had a ramp, presumably you would notice it scraping along the freeway and falling off. If you had a gate with a step-up, you don't notice it wildly swinging open and presumably continuing to bang as you drive along the freeway?
                  Running down the highway with the wind blowing down the sides of the trailer I doubt the trailer doors would swing into view for any amount of time.
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                  • #29
                    Has there been any update on the horse? Poor guy!

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                    • #30
                      Oh my goodness that poor guy! I'm so glad he's ok!

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by Kate66 View Post
                        Did you see the horse? It had no halter, it had a bit of bare rope tied around it's neck and when standing tied, looked skinny as heck! Sure, they didn't plan for it to fall out but incredible that it's tail gate, butt bar and head tie would all give way simultaneously and then him NOT notice it was gone. He was an ass.
                        So you must obviously know this individual and exactly what happened? For all we know, it slipped its halter and someone threw a rope on it afterwards. Or they simply chose to use a rope (poor choice maybe, but if the horse is good, maybe it would have been 'ok'...). It sure was not 'skinny as heck', he was fit (google body scores) Maybe there wasn't a butt bar?? Our 2H angle-haul has no butt bar - if the gate came open (heaven forbid - though we take precautions), the horse could easily fall out and slip its halter. I sure as heck you never experience any accidents with your horses. Honestly, we have no idea the story behind this incident - there is always another side and it is never black and white. Seems a lot of theories swirling about here, any of which are possible. Why would we automatically assume the worst? Perhaps it is the case, however how could we possibly know?? Reserve your judgement for when it is you.
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                          #32
                          Originally posted by naturalequus View Post
                          So you must obviously know this individual and exactly what happened? For all we know, it slipped its halter and someone threw a rope on it afterwards. Or they simply chose to use a rope (poor choice maybe, but if the horse is good, maybe it would have been 'ok'...). It sure was not 'skinny as heck', he was fit (google body scores) Maybe there wasn't a butt bar?? Our 2H angle-haul has no butt bar - if the gate came open (heaven forbid - though we take precautions), the horse could easily fall out and slip its halter. I sure as heck you never experience any accidents with your horses. Honestly, we have no idea the story behind this incident - there is always another side and it is never black and white. Seems a lot of theories swirling about here, any of which are possible. Why would we automatically assume the worst? Perhaps it is the case, however how could we possibly know?? Reserve your judgement for when it is you.
                          Valid points, bless your heart for pointing them out.

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                          • #33
                            Accidents CAN happen, even to good horsemen.

                            About 18 years ago or so, a local trainer was hauling a client's stallion up to his training facility. Either the rear gate latch on the trailer was not secured, or there was a failure of the latch. Long story short, stallion fell out of the back of the trailer and was dragged for some distance before passers-by could flag the fellow down.

                            The horse lost a lot of flesh on one hindquarter, but miraculously survived, healed and went on to become a riding horse. The client did not hold this incident against the trainer -- he was a good horseman, but sh*t happens.

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                            • #34
                              What an amazing video!! Lucky horse. Any more info on what actually happened? Was owner hauling him or not? Where is he now? Notice how the cars kept just passing him and the drivers honked while doing that-- what were those idiots thinking?

                              Several years ago while drivng on a four lane with a high divider middle, but not an interstate, I noticed that vehicles in front of me were hitting the brakes, then honking their horns and passing a truck and trailer -- and continuing to honk as they passed. The truck was pulling a gooseneck stock type trailer that had double doors in back, instead of just one door.

                              As I came up behind it, I noticed that one of the doors wasn't really closed-- it kept swinging open a couple of feet as the horse inside backed up and leaned against it. Then it would close when he moved forward.

                              Instead of honking-- noise just might spook horse, I started flashing my lights-- but the driver didn't slow. So I pulled along side and tried to signal for him to pull to the paved shoulder lane-- He just kept driving. (This was before cell phones so I couldn't just dial 911)

                              Finally, I pulled in front of him, began slowing down and kept pointing to the right side of the road with my right turn signal on, and hitting my brakes -- he passed me twice. I got back in front each time. I tried a third time, and this time he did slow down and pull over.

                              As I was getting out my car, he was walking up just cursing a blue streak. He thought he was being "messed with" because he was only going 50 in a 55 zone. Once I explained, his attitude changed immediately to one of gratitude-- he was delivering his granddaughter's horse to the 4-H show, and had borrowed the trailer-- which he was not too familiar with. He had no idea that both doors were not securely closed.

                              To make matters worse, the horse was haltered, but not tied because he was a "puller" so he was actually loose in the trailer, and could have gone out the back at any time.

                              My point, while not as dramatic as what happened in Houston, this experience makes me believe that someone could find themselves "sans- horse" while trailering one -- and not because they are a bad or mean person-- or even a thoughtless one.

                              I'm just glad nothing fatal happened to either of these horses.
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                              • #35
                                Thank God that horse made it. All I could think is that, if I were that horse, there is no way in H3ll I'd want to get back on a trailer again. I did not read everyone's stories and I can dream up enough scary things all on my own. I am already a little too nervous when my horses are trailered.
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                                • #36
                                  Oh wow, the poor thing. I hope he's doing ok.

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                                  • #37
                                    Geez that was so upsetting. Poor thing. I feel so bad for him.

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                                    • #38
                                      I will be quadruple checking anything and everything on my trailer every time I haul after seeing that and reading all these stories. I don't know if I could live with myself if something like that happened to one of my babies.
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                                      • #39
                                        OK, I hate to admit this, so no name calling. I had this happen to me about 20 years ago, though not on the freeway. Yes, a horse can come out of the trailer and you would never feel it.

                                        I was just driving down the road about 20/25 mph and someone honked at me and said I "lost" my horse. I thought they were nuts. I stopped, and the horse came running up to me. The latch had come undone on the door and somehow he had slipped under the buttchain, which was still attached. It was an older two horse trailer, but I never felt a thing. He had slipped out, I guess assumed he was bad or something, and run after me. He had a few scrapes on his legs, but it was very minor. He got right back into the trailer, no problem. He never had a problem with trailers after that, either.

                                        I've had a wheel come off a truck while trailering on the freeway, but haven't lost a horse since. I'm MORE than a little paranoid about every bump, always.

                                        Be nice. At least I'm admitting it.

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                                        • #40
                                          Some years back, a breeder was hauling a weanling filly to a foal inspection. She stopped to get gas after being on the road about 30-40 minutes, and thought, wow, it is pretty quiet in that trailer. She looked in the back - and no filly.

                                          She backtracked down the highway and found the filly grazing in the median, a bit scraped up but otherwise unharmed. The lady had not tied the filly and had left the upper doors open since the weather was pretty hot. Filly obviously jumped over the doors. Luckily it was early in the morning on a very rural part of the interstate and there was virtually no traffic.

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