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  • #101
    Originally posted by DairyQueen2049 View Post
    Best post of 2009!!
    Why thank you. I know it's early in the year, but to even get a mention is amazing.
    "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"

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    • #102
      Wow, aboubika, that is great to hear! Yes, its only been a few days, but how nice that you really did want to learn and sorted out a way to interact with the filly and see some progress in her behaviour. It must make you feel really good. I think you really took things in hand and told your fiancee what you needed from him regarding learning to train a baby, and you spotted the ideas on this thread which would give you a good start with her and you rethought your approach - nice job.

      Yes, we often see folks ask for help and respond with a thousand reasons why they don't want to do it, but you obviously, to me, are a person who wants to learn, and what's better than that! I really did think that you were someone who didn't have the ability to stand back and regroup and reassess your approach, and would be better off handing her over to a trainer, and for that I apologize - I really should remember not to judge someone so quickly. YOu may still want to send her out at some point to get some training in some area or other you or your fiancee don't have the time or equipment or whatever to give her for something, but it sounds like you will be able to evaluate that as things go along just fine.

      You're right about your honey not realizing how much of his handling of the horse and manner with her is sort of instinctive from his long time experience, and sometimes folks don't realize how much knowlege they are using, taking for granted other people know it. Sounds like you can stop and get the details from him if you need to.

      Will look forward to your future posts - probably going to be some more frustrations, but this is a great place to find resources for what you want to learn. Glad you stuck with us!
      Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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      • #103
        I'm applauding....you go girl!!!

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        • #104
          Well, I have never had a young horse before and have only been in horses about 8 years, 2 1/2 years ago we bought a mare with a 6 week old colt at her side, he had never been handled and was a little snit! I did not know that a 6 week old would know how to pin their ears hard to their head, LOL!

          I had no trainer, and he actually turned out very well. I read all I could and hubby helped me (he is no trainer either) and soon he could be led anywhere, bathed, trimed, clipped, stand tied for long periods, would stand with a barepad pad on him, ground drive somewhat, etc etc.

          Sold him as a 2 year old to one of the boarders and she worked more on ground driving and then soon rode him. She said it was like he was born knowing he was to be ridden. Heck he recently sat in the pasture for 3 months after her training him this summer and rode him and he rode off like a champ!

          But boy, was he a pain at first! Pinning ears, trying to bite, kick or rear on you. One time I was cleaning the water trough and he was on the other side of the pasture when I started, I didn't see him come over while I was finishing up and as I was standing up he was rearing up behind my back and one front foot was on one of my shoulders, his other foot on my other shoulder! Oh he thought he was gonna die! LOL! We had SEVERAL coming to Jesus moments with him needless to say over these issues.

          I never pampered him and treated him like I would an ill-mannered horse. I can't STAND an ill-mannered horse. Now he did get treats and such but on OUR terms. He isn't pushy and quietly waits for his treat and gently takes it out of your hands.

          I never looked at him like he was a stuffed toy, never played with him in the pasture, he always knew to keep a respectable distance and such yet came when called, he turned out to be a sweet fella, loved people and to come visit. I always thought "treat him like you would a 1200 pound horse, you don't want that to play with you!" He was gelded as soon as it got cold.

          Now in the pasture, this little coming 3 year old rules over 12 horses and I am just dumb-founded about that. He is a MEAN ruler though rather than just being a quiet alpha and it drives me crazy!

          She sold him this past weekend and the guy loves him. He isn't fitting in yet in the herd, getting run around. I guess it's payback time for how he treated the new guys here, LOL!
          I want a signature but I have nothing original to say except: "STHU and RIDE!!!

          Wonderful COTHER's I've met: belleellis, stefffic, snkstacres and janedoe726.

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            #105
            I just thought I'd give everyone who was interested a quick update:

            Things have been going really well. I've been reading a couple books- just starting 1 by Monty Roberts "From my hands to Yours". I also took a back seat to fiance handling her. Mostly for the past weeks (since I posted that thread), I've let him do the primary handling. I watch & observe.

            She's really pushy when feeding her comes around. I have the feeling that her prior owner rewarded her for such behavior. When we bought her- she told me that she'd back her butt up when she wanted food (and said it as in- oh how cute). Well it is not cute. Fiance will kick her or push her away when she gets pushy with him.

            I have started in the past week to handle her again. I carry a bat- one of those plastic fat bats, it works really well for me. Fiance put a piece of twine around it so I can hook it on my wrist. I make sure anytime I'm out there with her that I have it. It (sad to say) gives me more confidence cause I know if she comes after me- I have something to get after her with.

            I've lead her in & out of the barn a couple times now by myself (Fiance watches and is there to tell me what to do if needed- however we have been doing good and it has so far not been needed), been feeding her by myself (again with Fiance watching). And this past weekend- while Fiance was away- even went in the pasture with her and took her blanket off.

            LOL- it all sounds so pathetic: I can lead my horse all by myself, wow yes it is pathetic, LOL... but I guess- it's all baby steps to the bigger picture! I want to make sure I'm not interacting with her unless I know I can handle any situation that may arise. I want everything her & I do to be a positive interaction or at the least- that I can handle with confidence the situations that may arise.

            Thank You all again for your help and advice- I remember it all and try to incorporate it in! Everyday that comes, I get more confident in myself and I work very hard on being firm with her and never letting her get the upper hand.

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            • #106
              Good for you! Sounds like you and fiance are on the right track!

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              • #107
                Thanks for the update!

                I think it's great that you are handling your filly, and also that you have some help.

                The first part is great because *she's yours* and IMO, owners ought be able to handle their own horses. Anyone who tells you otherwise isn't helping you out in the very long term.

                The second part is great because you will learn a ton by watching other people. It's about enlarging your own repertoire.

                I also agree that you should bring whatever equipment with you that you need to handle your pushy baby. You don't always need to use it, but it's always inconvenient when a baby decides to challenge you and you are caught unprepared.

                A word to the wise, however: I'd think twice about the twine handle on your bat. It would really suck to get tangled in the heat of battle and break your wrist. In fact, it would be embarrassing and inconvenient to hurt yourself (as well as set back your baby's training) through an accident in times of peace.

                The aggressiveness around food will get better sooner or later. You don't need to fix every problem "right now." You are well on your way to establishing a base of manners and respect for your authority and space. Eventually, you'll get fed up with your filly's last bit of rudeness and decide to teach her that the rules apply here, too. By then, you'll have a sense of what she does, and how to handle her various forms of resistance. Even if she thinks her right to food is a "last stand" kind of issue, you'll feel confident to address it.

                Do it your way and on your own time table. You'll get there and also enjoy the nice horse *you* made.
                The armchair saddler
                Politically Pro-Cat

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                • #108
                  Originally posted by aboubika View Post


                  LOL- it all sounds so pathetic:

                  Hardly pathetic considering where she was such a short time ago!

                  Congratulations on being well on the road to making a great equine citizen!
                  Eternal Earth-Bound Pets Independent Contractor.


                  All I want is to know WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHICKEN???

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                  • #109
                    Good job! Sounds like you're on the right path. I bet that it's exciting to see progress. Maybe a little easier for you, but I've also recommended a really thin elastic to someone in your same situation instead of twine. Just less harmful if something were to happen. The really thin stuff (like a heavy piece of thread kind, not the stuff in like elastic waists of pants) is strong enough to hold up , but will break easily or stretch off your wrist before something happens. Twine burn hurts!

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                      #110
                      Been awhile now, but wanted to let everyone know that we are doing so great! She has lots of attitude but I am much better equiped to handel it and confident in myself. There isn't anything I don't do with her- I lounge her, take her for walks, go in the pasture with her (ungarded- haha), in her stall- feed her... the whole 9 yards!
                      Yesterday I put a saddle on her for the 1st time, that was very exciting! She's getting huge- her legs are as long as my 16.3 horse. But all in all- we are doing great!
                      Thanks again to all of you who gave me helpful suggestions! Best of luck to everyone!

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                      • #111
                        Congrats! Sounds like you and her are really starting to come together!
                        Different flavors of crazy, but totally NUTS. You know its true. - GreyHunterHorse

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                        • #112
                          Originally posted by aboubika View Post
                          LOL- it all sounds so pathetic: I can lead my horse all by myself, wow yes it is pathetic, LOL...
                          No, this is important. The horse you lead is the horse you ride!

                          I also once had a horse who was too much for me, and it was a significant accomplishment when I could lead him safely!
                          Last edited by Cindyg; Apr. 25, 2012, 11:09 PM.
                          I have a Fjord! Life With Oden

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                          • #113
                            Delighted to see this! Sounds like you are gonna have a real nice filly!

                            Well done to you!

                            Terri
                            COTH, keeping popcorn growers in business for years.

                            "I need your grace to remind me to find my own." Snow Patrol-Chasing Cars. This line reminds me why I have horses.

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                            • #114
                              Well done!
                              Full-time bargain hunter.

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