ATTN: MOSBY'S PATRONS! ETBW, THIS MEANS YOU!

[LGW]

What is the 5:02 bridge?????

[LGW]

Wait ... is it a new name for the Falmouth Bridge?

[Everythingbutwings]

We call the park on the Falmouth side of the US 1 bridge "The Redneck Riveria"

Nice place to picnic in the hot summer.

Friendship is Love without his wings
-Lord Byron

[Janet]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Go-Go:
Can I ask, in all seriousness, what's with the motorcycles on the weekend? I'm not trying to be snobby - most of those folks look like nice people, but what is the point of coming to a quiet town and riding a loud vehicle, in head-to-toe leather? Is it just to make people mad and stare at them?

[This message was edited by Go-Go on May. 06, 2004 at 03:55 PM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Same things we are doing. Getting out, enjoying the good weather and the scenery, then stopping for a sociable meal.

They are no more "trying to make people mad" by riding loud bikes and wearing leather, than we are by riding horses that leave manure at the side of the road, and wearing helmets.

Leathers are a important piece of safety equipment, I cringe when I see someone riding a motorcycle WITHOUT leathers, the same way I cringe when I see someone riding a horse without a helmet.

Bikes happen to be loud, the same way horses happen to deposit manure. It is part of what they are, but not the REASON we ride them.

Janet
chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle, and Brain

[Windsor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LGW:
Wait ... is it a _new_ name for the Falmouth Bridge?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I was going to guess--I used to get caught in that mess on my commute from College Heights to the office park off 17 that was home to the magazine that employed me at the time. That bridge is a cluster&%$# during rush hour.

I also wondered whether the 5:02 bridge might the overpass (Rt. 3) crossing I-95. Don't know.

[LGW]

Embarassed to say, my grandfather got sauced in town and walked across the Falmouth bridge while it was under construction. He fell into the river. Everyone said it would have killed him if it wasn't for the liquor.

[lilblackhorse]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everythingbutwings:
lilblackhorse, Kennett Square was a resident above Mosby's years ago as well. She told some rollickingly good stories about those days.

_Friendship is Love without his wings_
-Lord Byron<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


so it IS the same place, right? So sad--it was a great building. I remember buying a shirt that said "Decadance:A way of life"...what was I thinking, I worked in a barn, and ate yogurt pretty much three times a day.

Gee...Falmouth, I haven't thought of that for years either-I had lived in Quantico from 68-74, and didn't live in M'burg until 82. It was a great apartment above there--two bedrooms, great living room, and if I remember the swimming pool was right down the road--as was the Red Fox across the way too. My memory is fuzzy. Loud music is pretty much what I remember most.

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"What the fuh?" Robby Johnson

[Flycatcher]

"And don't forget the old radio store"
You'll be happy to know that the Magic Wardrobe (children's clothing)has returned to Middleburg and now resides where Hockman's used to be.

I forget who first mentioned the Piedmont Gourmet situation, but Mrs. Johnson does not own the building where the store used to be. Piedmont Gourmet moved bc rent was going up while the landlord did not want to make improvements on the location. The store also lost money when Hurricane Isabel hit and power was out for several days. All the perishables were lost. You can still get basically everything you used to be able to get at Piedmont Gourmet with the exception of the fresh seafood, coffees and some other perishables. Do I miss it? You bet. But frankly, it's better that the store moved instead of going out of business.

[Go-Go]

Janet - I wasn't trying to make anyone mad - I hope I didn't offend. My dad had a motorcycle when I was little and I loved going for rides on it with him, so I appreciate the culture - I just don't understand why they have to be so darned loud. A friend of mine just bought some sort of motorcycle and had it made louder with a special muffler - I couldn't believe how inconsiderate that act is - he's normally a very thoughtful person, as are most of the other riders I've met. He said it's possible to have a quiet motorcycle, but he doesn't like it. Disappointing, to say the least! I'm glad to know that the leather is a safety precaution - I hadn't really thought of it at all other than to think that it must be hot as Hades in there, and it looks kind of silly, but I suppose they think the same thing as they whiz by me and my horse - probably with the same reaction - indifference (except I'm indifferent and halfway to Kansas because the bike has scared the bejesus out of my horse...)

[This message was edited by Go-Go on May. 07, 2004 at 11:33 AM.]

[Albion]

LGW, this area does have a behind the times mentality on preservation (as do many areas), but at least they've done something. Seriously, I think it's better than flattening the whole downtown. Really. And there are a lot of people out there who would be just as happy to do that.

Places like Charleston, SC have done a fantastic job with preservation. BUT - they have been doing it since the '40s & earlier. It makes a BIG difference. F'burg City would do well to look at examples like that.

I don't think it helps that we're so big on citizen rights in VA (er - don't know how to phrase it). There is a pretty popular feeling that preservation efforts trample on the property rights & the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. For me, the rights of private property owners *sometimes* fall second to quality of life issues & preservation (of history, landscape, etc.) that effect the public at large, whether or not they realize it.

Re: Falmouth Bridge - my boyfriend's room mate proposed to his girlfriend & when she said 'no', he got wasted, walked down to that bridge & tossed the 3/4 carat engagement ring over the side. He wasn't too happy when he woke up the next morning & realized what he had done & how much $$$ he had dumped into the Rappahanock.

'O lente, lente currite noctis equi' - Ovid

[LGW]

Charleston has done an exceptional job with maintaining their town. Where else can one be proud to be called a SOB?

But for Pete's sake, you have to stop calling Fredericksburg, F-burg City. Call it Dead Fred instead ... it definitely isn't a city.

[pook]

The loudness and rudeness of motorcycles and some riders is offensive. it is noise pollution. Horses and any manure are a part of nature- and they do have the right of way on a road.

[Windsor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LGW:
Charleston has done an exceptional job with maintaining their town. Where else can one be proud to be called a SOB?

But for Pete's sake, you have to stop calling Fredericksburg, F-burg City. Call it Dead Fred instead ... it definitely isn't a city. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

By the same token there's nothing wrong with being SNOB, either.

And Fred is by no means dead. The problems cited in this thread indicate that Fred's growth spurt is its (his?) biggest problem.

[Go-Go]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LGW:
Charleston has done an exceptional job with maintaining their town. Where else can one be proud to be called a SOB? [QUOTE]

My mom is on the board of several preservation organizations in Charleston. I'll tell her y'all said nice things - it will make her day!

Edited to say: Winsdor, thanks a lot, now I'm hungry for SNOB cooking!

[Windsor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Go-Go:My mom is on the board of several preservation organizations in Charleston. I'll tell her y'all said nice things - it will make her day!

Edited to say: Winsdor, thanks a lot, now I'm hungry for SNOB cooking! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's there not nice to say about CHARLESTON? Incredible history, incredible architecture, and the ocean. After living in Summerville for three years and memorizing large chunks of The Lords of Discipline I have at least a mild infatuation with Charleston and a small collection of books about Charleston and the Lowcountry, including a signed copy of Jonathan Poston's The Buildings of Charleston, which I thought the Historic Charleston Foundation had some hand in the production of, but I'm not certain. Nice run-on sentence. Tell your mom to keep up the good work!

P.S. I've never been to Slightly North of Broad, but I know it's pretty much a Charleston icon now.

[Duffy]

I'll take Beaufort over Charleston.

"B***h in training"

[Windsor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duffy:
I'll take Beaufort over Charleston.

"_B***h in training_"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have good taste. I visited Beaufort for the first time about three years ago. I bought several signed Pat Conroy books at the Bay Street Trading Company (did I get that name right?) and took the bridge over to St. Helena and Lady's Island and Hunting Island State Park. Beaufort is charming. I'm not sure I'd choose it over Charleston, but it is charming.

[Go-Go]

Thanks, Windsor - your kind remarks will make a wonderful Mother's Day gift to a very hardworking and devoted mom! I'm sure you'll get to SNOB at some point - it will be worth the wait when you do!

And Duffy - I agree with you about Beaufort, too - we vacation on Hunting Island - but SHHHH! Don't tell everyone!

[LGW]

Six degrees of seperation continues! Sad to report the Stephens Hardware on the main street of Beaufort is closed. I am a St. Helena's bride. Every one in my husband's family has been confirmed or married or buried in the backyard of that church. When it came to have the wedding in Fredericksburg or Beaufort, there was no choice. I am worried about the development of lowcountry, too.

[breezymeadow]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ZullaRoad:
I forget who first mentioned the Piedmont Gourmet situation, but Mrs. Johnson does not own the building where the store used to be. Piedmont Gourmet moved bc rent was going up while the landlord did not want to make improvements on the location. The store also lost money when Hurricane Isabel hit and power was out for several days. All the perishables were lost. You can still get basically everything you used to be able to get at Piedmont Gourmet with the exception of the fresh seafood, coffees and some other perishables. Do I miss it? You bet. But frankly, it's better that the store moved instead of going out of business.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahhh - but then it was the fresh seafood (they carried dry-pack unprocessed scallops which are nearly impossible to find around here), the coffees, & the other perishables that I shopped there for in the first place. Everything else they carried I could get elsewhere for less.

And I'm sorry - guess I wasn't clear on why I said that Sheila Johnson was "involved" with their downsizing. I didn't mean that it was because she owned the building, rather meant that the opening of her own larger & more impressive gourmet shop may have provided too much local competition.

My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer-upper".