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  • #41
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Court@HJ-OH:
    What about no posting pics unless you are a COTH subscriber. That might encourage subscriptions.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Ooh, I like this idea!

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    • #42
      Suggestion:
      I think an on-line classified forum would be great! There are many people here who are looking for horses and those that are selling. I personally would pay to be able to put a thread out there that said I was horse hunting and be able toget immediate feedback.

      For what it's worth-you will never get everyone to agree on one thing. We all love this BB and would hate to see it shut down. I'm sure most people are willing to make a concession to prevent that.

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      • #43
        I wouldn't mind a pay to post pictures policy (how's that for alliteration). To be honest, there are some photo threads I love, and there are others I don't open (mostly because I have a dial up at home and the larger photos just take too long to download).

        I love the Maddie photos, the COTH get-together photos, lauriep's "traveling with the team photos, and the "photos of you riding before the Reagan years" type photos. The cute critters photos can be fun (and sometimes I open them) but mostly they take too long to download.

        I don't think I've posted photos in over a year, but if the fee weren't too large, I wouldn't mind paying it if I had some photos in the future I wanted to post. Or I could just link to a Webshots site or something similar.

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        • #44
          Question that I don't think was covered:

          Does the e-mail notification count towards the bandwidth used? As in, when I ask for immediate e-mail notification on a topic or on someone specific (like Willem!). Do those e-mails count when tallying bandwidth?

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          • #45
            Defintely hats and polos!

            Also, I think the paying for posting pictures idea is a good one, but I also think even without going to premiums and whatnot we can slow down the amount of pictures flooding the system. Afterall, we are COTH, we do (sometimes) work together for a greater cause.

            I like the one-picture crititque or one-picture "Snuffles and I went to the Grand Canyon and Snuffles thought he was a donkey!" or whatever, but when there are around 20 pictures all about the same thing I just pass by. Also the "Post your puddle-jumper pictures!" threads are a bit overwhelming. Everyone loves to share pictures, but I bet we can tone it down a bit just by not having huge amounts of photos that few look at.

            -Anne, formerly PrettyFilly, now 4 Socks & a Star. Now the proud owner of Greg!-
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            • #46
              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What about no posting pics unless you are a COTH subscriber. That might encourage subscriptions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              No I don't like that idea, I am banned by family members from having a subscription to COTH, I'm a pack rat and they just add up way too quick, I still have boxes and boxes full of them from when I did subscribe. NOW I do advertise in COTH and pay for full page color ads, which equals a lot more revenue then a subscription does. So I think it would just be too much to decide who has subscribed, who's advertised, etc.

              Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com
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              • #47
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Risk-Averse Rider:
                I'll chime in with support for the paid subscription for special options (custom title, picture-posting), with the basic board included free.

                <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                I'd support this, too -- but if I had no other choice, I'd pay a modest fee just to access the board.

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                • #48
                  I agree with pintofoal. Besides, I know to some of you $50 doesn't sound like a lot of money, but, there are loads of us out here in horse land who have all of our money in our horses and honestly can't afford the COTH subscription price. The fee to post pics would be lower and more affordable, and those of us who have to really pinch pennies could always post a link.

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                  • #49
                    Or, here's an original thought....how about keeping posts HORSE related? Or how about no photos posted unless they're HORSE related?

                    Or how about limiting photos to x number per month? year? and make it a low number. Sometimes it seems like people upload their whole roll of film and uh, the pictures are not that interesting.

                    Probably the best way, really, is to just make people post a link to their photos. Then it's just not the COH's problem. There have been so many terrific photos posted here (the blasts from the past, the horse looking in the car, the example of terrific form over fences, etc.) I do hate to lose those. But tons of pictures of my house, my dog, my kitty,....arrrgh. Even some people here post constant photos of their horse and frankly, I think MAYBE 2 or 3 people want to see and it's just boring for the rest of us. Let's face it, our own horses are marvelous to us, but to other people...well, people really don't want to see endless everyday photos of my horse and I don't want to see endless everyday photos of yours. What's so wrong about asking people to link to their own sites for this?

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                    • #50
                      I didn't read all the replies, so I'm sorry if this has already been suggested.

                      How about if subscribers to the print magazine were automatically premium BB members and nonsubscribers could pay the premium membership fee to post pics?

                      As a subscriber, I'll be a litte angry if I have to pay the same amount as a non subscriber.

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                      • #51
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Everythingbutwings:
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>90% of the pics we post are BS fluff pics anyhow <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> HEY! I resemble that remark!

                        Tin's gonna be ticked if she doesn't get her Maddie fix.
                        <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Then send it directly to Tin.

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                        • #52
                          i think you should charge extra to allow people to post links too, since they usually are free advertising for farms and trainers.

                          charging for photos is fine. go for it. many amount to advertising for trainers/farms as well.

                          i'd also suggest you consider taking online ads and charging for those.

                          if it's possible to monitor, you might consider charging people who make more than x number of posts a month. that would mean frequent posters would pay, and that would include me, but i wouldn't mind because i come here to practice writing skills and it's cheaper than a writing class; aside from that i would enjoy helping to support the chronicle.

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                          • #53
                            I think it is true all across the bord that paying a small fee (10-30) would be within all of our grasps if we wanted "premium privelages."

                            As far as posting pics, I have no problem just posting a link to my website. I think most of us just use the Attachment because it's easier, but life wasn't meant to be easy so I think we can all handle uploading to our own servers and laying off COTH's bandwidth.

                            People have hit the truth about how this BB is one of the most informational on the internet..it's the one I visit first when I'm online! So anything to keep it going with the same essence it has now is fine by me..

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                            • #54
                              I wouldn't have a problem paying a few dollars to be able to post photo's on the site. Actually I think it's a great idea because it still allows everyone the ability to visit and post at the BB for free. Ditto's to cutting the file size of the pics as well. I know I don't even bother clicking on any pics that are huge. In the country with only dial up available, it just takes too long.

                              The other thing it may stop - and this is something that bugs me everytime I see it - is people that post a picture here and place an ad on another BB that doesn't allow pics - such as EMG - and link to it. Nothing like using COTH's BW to advertise on another board. A lot of BW use is in viewing.

                              I don't agree with an across the board membership fee though. As discussed in that Pay Per View thread, some people just can't afford it and many wouldn't join without being able to try the place out and get a feel for it first.

                              The user name titles is also great. By the time I figured out what I wanted to have it was almost the end of December and since we were told that the titles were only for the month...

                              I also love the idea of classifieds, COTH hats and other COTH stuff (maybe a COTH online store?), forum appropriate banners and a COTH dating service.

                              Back to mucking out....

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                              • #55
                                I LOFF this board and even though I probably wouldn't pay the pic fee (since I rarely post pics and have a free yahoo gallery) I would pay the extra $$ to have a title etc.

                                I would pay the $10 someone suggested if COTH ever went to PPP it is worth it for me--the way I look at it I have had 1600 some posts for FREE--thats a heckuva deal, and $10 or prices like that are cheap--and I am a poor college student!

                                I will support COTH all the way!

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                                • #56
                                  I agree with Robby in that a nominal fee could be charged to everyone, whether or not they post pics. Seems like that would be the fairest solution and possibly give COTH a nice income as well.

                                  Hopefully, it would get rid of those using aliases as well as each userid would be charged.

                                  Now, I do realize that this may be a problem for some of the juniors as they would probably need their parents to submit $ thru credit cards or PayPal, but then the parents should be aware of what their kids are doing anyway. JMHO

                                  msj


                                  You know you're a horse person when...you can find your boots by smell.

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                                  Sue

                                  I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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                                  • #57
                                    What about allowing photo posting but removing photos after, say, a week or some other short but not too short time period?

                                    Either the COH can remove them or better yet, the poster MUST remove them or receive a warning (only ONE)to either remove them or be banned.

                                    For instance, someone said they felt bad about posting tons of my house in the snow pics. Well, they could always simply remove them, right? That way we could post a funny pic, a fabulous pic, etc. but take it down after 3-5 days. It's given everyone a chance to see it and if they want to keep it they can download it on to their OWN space, right? And the discussion could continue. If someone comes in late I'm sure a request to the list will let someone email it to them privately.

                                    For the smart alecks who remove pictures of Precious-poo after 3 days and then re-post them, the COH can no doubt deal with them in their no-nonsense way.

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                                    • #58
                                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> For instance, someone said they felt bad about posting tons of my house in the snow pics <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      That would be me, but all the photos I posted where well under 50KB + they are mostly horse related, showing the big snow--I will remove them, but not for a few more days since I think the "snow" is a pretty big deal to us struggling though it + it's intresting for those who are not.

                                      Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com
                                      Pinto & Colored Warmbloods Stallions
                                      Liz Hall silverwoodfarm.com Warmblood Pintos

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                                      • #59
                                        I think it's a good idea....the "Come look! I have 20 new pics of my pony standing around" and "Critique all these pics, even though I'm doing this, this and this wrong and won't take anyone's advice" threads are a bit ridiculous~ and it would help weed some of that out. I don't post pics all that often, so if I opted not to get a premier membership I like the option of linking to a photo site. I also think an online store might be a good idea: Ball caps, T-shirts, stuff like that to help offset the cost of maintaining the board. SUZ

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                                        • #60
                                          There is a piece of information here that surprises me. Being a non computer person I did not realize that posting pictures took up so much BW. Having known that I would definitley only post the most important pictures instead of just freely posting a million pictures just for fun. In fact, I just posted a ton of pictures of minis. Had I known that it was costing COTH so much I would have only posted 1 or 2 instead of the large amount that I ended up posting.

                                          Would it be possible for us all to agree to only post important pics or at least less pics of the same thing? Examples- If you want a critique just post your best pic instead of 3 or 4. If you have something cute to show just post 1 pic instead of 10, like I did, oops. and so on...

                                          We could maybe try this for a month or so and see if it makes any difference. I think if everybody could just make an effort we might bring the cost down. I know I will certainly post less pictures after knowing this information. I feel really bad about how many pics I have been posting lately.

                                          What do you think, would this help?

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