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  • Riding and the night shift

    Ok so I FINALLY have a decent paying nursing job after a long time of being a poor broke student but I have the night shift.

    I feel like it would be possible to start riding lessons during the day and still be able to work at night. How does everyone in the same situation handle it
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    hmm, as long as you plan on sleeping/ showering at some point. and take the "horse lag" into account. (where you try to out of the barn by 2 but dont actually leave till 3).. thats always my problem. being all horsey smelling in the peds ward wasnt a big hit.
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    • #3
      By 'night shift' do you mean 3-11 or something like 11-7 or 7-7?

      I used to work an early AM shift at my job (1-9:30 AM) and would go out to the barn directly after work, often stay until early afternoon and then go home and sleep. I generally found it easier to sleep, get up and go directly to work, and then do other things after working.
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      • #4
        I work nights 7p-7a and usually ride in the morning after I get off work long as I don't gave to be back the next night. My barn is close to my work but both of them are far from home. When I am on a stretch sleep is my priority and barn time is saved for my days off. With 12 hr shifts I often feel I only have time to sleep, eat, work, but I have an hour commute both ways and as a nurse those 12 hr shifts can run looooong sometimes
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        • #5
          I would definitely shoot for riding in the mornings. IME, from working an 11:30-8 shift with a 1.5 hr commute, is that I was unable to get going again until dinner time once I had gone home, changed, and relaxed. Going straight to the barn, however, the last Mountain Dew and the adrenaline from running around at work had not worn off yet and I was OK to stay up until noon or later. However, I'm not exactly the poster child for healthy sleep habits.
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          • #6
            Well it depends on whether you are a better sleeper right after work or after a little lag time. I worked 10 PM to 6:30 AM and if I hit the early classes at the gym after work I was OK, but the gym was a half hour drive. If I did the hour drive home I often wound up sleeping in the parking lot for a while. IIRC I was short on sleep a lot.

            When I tansferred I worked 5PM to 5:30AM for a while and could only do lessons on the morning after my day off. Had a 10AM lesson, get up at 8ish to be there at 9ish home at noonish. My current schedule is 4PM to 1230AM, half hour lesson is at 2PM and I go straight from the barn to work.
            It can be really tough. I had a flexible schedule for a while and got my days off switched around, or my times, and missed a few lessons out of pure exhaustion, that and needing to unwind for a couple of hours after work before I could sleep. Some people do split shift sleeping, some need less sleep, some never get used to the night shift and really suffer.
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            • #7
              I have worked both evenings & mids for 20 years. I HATE DAYS and can't figure out how anyone can do anything horsey while working days. I've been on days (mostly) since August, and right now I'm doing chores in the dark in the morning, and coming home in the dark at night...

              My biggest problem is that my job(s) are pretty pysically & emotionally intense, (as yours will be) and I really can't *do* anything after work but fall into bed.

              Which is AWESOME on evenings. My best shifts are 16-02 or 16-00. I get home, do chores, go to bed, generally asleep by 03:30 or . I wake up without an alarm around 10(ish). Get up, have a cuppa, wake up... and am out during the best part of the day 3/4 of the year... Winter, Spring & Fall I'm outside durng the warmest, nicest part of the day. Summer... 'eh. But I hate heat anyway. Ideally in summer I like late afternoon/evenings... which I do on my days off. Days 'on' I miss more time in summer due to heat sometimes than in winter due to ice/snow/cold. *some* years.

              Midnights are harder. I would LOVE to have the emotional & physical energy to ride in the mornings in summer... get home around 0830 or 0630, do chores, ride, sleep... BUT, I just can't. I don't have patience and I don't have the muscle coordination to WORK a horse. *Maybe* this year I might try to lunge or do hacking in the morning for a second work, or on 'days off' or something. Not sure.

              For now, I have to come home, sleep some, get up and do things, then sleep some more. Which isn't ideal for either me or the ponies... but just me. Some people ride after work regularly and are just fine with it. It's all about how physically and mentally drained you are/are not, or how hard you're going to be 'working.' (I do dressage--the mental part is as challenging as the physical for me.)
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              • #8
                I don't work a true night shift as I am generally done by 10 pm or so. It is definitely handy for riding (and avoiding traffic) but not always so fun when there is something you'd like to do at night.

                I ride in the morning two days or so before work (I don't work Fridays) and saunter in around 2-4 on those days. You cannot park at my college between about 9 am and 2 pm unless you do so in a place you probably don't want to walk back to at 10 pm. It gets hard when it's hot and I want to ride early--home at 11 pm and back out the door at 6 or 6:30 the next morning isn't pleasant. There is a shower at school (for people who want to bike to work) that I will use when it's really hot. Otherwise, I figure that college faculty are supposed to be eccentric and hat hair and eau de caballo only add to my aura.

                A woman at my barn works all sorts of bizarre hours as an ER doctor. She comes and rides (usually late AM) before work, at the end of work... So, it can be done.
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                • #9
                  There is a shower at school (for people who want to bike to work) that I will use when it's really hot. Otherwise, I figure that college faculty are supposed to be eccentric and hat hair and eau de caballo only add to my aura.


                  Both my main jobs have showers as well--as yours will. I'm sure you know hospitals have staff showers for those who must shower in, and also for those who wish to or need to shower out. So you will have that advantage.

                  If you have to ask for a locker (dont' get one automatically) GET ONE. Keep a set of shower stuff (and extra socks) there.

                  For the first decade, I rode 3-5 horses two or three days a week (either M/W/F or T/Th and both weekend days while working 15:15 to 23:45 M-F.

                  I never felt exhausted or overstressed... I rode before work. I have aged 10 years since then, went to 10 hr shifts (=12 hrs away from home) and moved the horses home... Really good years I've ridden 2 out of 4 work days and all 3 days off. It's going to be really interesting to me to see how going back to five 8's works...
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                    #10
                    I'm working the 11-7 shift. It is a private duty peds position. The LVN job market in CA is tough right now and I could not get a facility position even in LTC despite graduating at the top of my class and having great clinicals. The advantages of this job are obviously low stress and decent pay. There is plenty of down time for me to study for my RN.

                    Of course I didn't know I was going to be working night shift under 10am yesterday and could only nap 2 hours so feel a little hungover this morning though I got in 5 hours.

                    I can see how riding in the morning might work. I am really hoping in the long run for a 3-11. It seems like the most horse friendly shift.
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                    • #11
                      There is a local nurse who raises quarter horses and has worked the 11-7 shift at the local hospital for over 20 years. AFAIK, she doesn't have any "farm help" except her husband, who really isn't horsey.

                      She gets home from work, does her farm stuff, goes to bed in early evening, then gets up and goes to work. Of course it is of great advantage to her that she lives less than five miles from the hospital...

                      It made it hard for anybody to get a hold of her when she was playing at being County Commissioner and Fairboard Director, but I guess it worked for her.

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                      • #12
                        We've got a bunch of people working weird shifts at my barn. Two of them work true night shifts. Those two usually go to work and then ride as early in the AM as possible. Then they go home to go to sleep. One of the two tends not to ride that often, as other family responsibilities get in the way. The other one rides quite a bit. However, she is chronically sleep deprived, as she tends to stay to stay up too long during the day. Be careful that you don't fall into that trap.

                        Some of the others work second shift, which seems to work out the best for both horse activities and sleep. Once again, however, you have to be disciplined about sleep. Go to bed as soon as you come home. It's easy to get in the habit of unwinding after work, and suddenly finding yourself on 4AM to noon sleep schedule.

                        The barn owner's cooperation can make or break your schedule. When I worked day shift, one barn owner fed at 7 AM and at 6 PM. That pretty much killed my ability to ride either immediately before or after work, as the ring wasn't lit. At another barn, when I worked second shift, the barn owner fed at 9 AM and 10 PM. Once again, that killed my ability to ride either before or after work. Current barn owner used to work a 3 PM to midnight shift while teaching on the side, so she is very sympathetic to people with weird schedules. She will alter her feeding schedule within reason as long as she has some warning and nobody abuses her generosity.

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                        • #13
                          I have rotated days and nights for over 15 years. I swap every 56 days. I work 6-6. As I have gotten older, it is harder to cram riding and sleeping in on work days. Here is my solution. When I get home around 0610, I sleep until 1130 or 12, get up and eat, and head to the farm. It's 15 minutes away, and I can ride until around 1:45. I make sure I'm back in bed by 2:30. Get up at 4:45 to get ready for work. Some days are better than others.

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                          • #14
                            I work 6PM-6AM. Its an hour each way to the barn in good traffic, so barring some medical need to take care of for the horse, I don't have time go to the barn the days I work. But with shiftwork, I only end up working half the days in any given week, so I'm at the barn every day I don't work. If it weren't for taking the paycut from loosing overnight pay, I'd really love a midshift we have here, 4P-2A. I could get up, ride, and be home and cleaned up and in to work on at least two days I work in addition to my days off.

                            With your schedule, assuming somewhat more reasonable commute times that I have to consider, I'd think it would be a very good schedule for riding. Ride early, then get cleaned up and go into work. I know there are a couple of my barnmates I never see because they ride before work each day.
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                            • #15
                              Be careful that you are fully functional if you plan to ride in the mornings, right after work. My daughter used to work nights. She was convinced that she could safely drive, ride, etc in the mornings. In reality, she was quite impaired if she didn't go to bed as soon as she got home at 8:30am. After a while, she learned that she needed to sleep first, then get up, eat, ride, shower and go to work again.

                              Night shift is tough for a lot of people. When I work nights, I am so out of it that I would not consider riding. I never adapt well to night shift. Day and evening shifts are my preference.

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                              • #16
                                It depends when you plan on sleeping.. I used to work midnight to 8:00 AM, go home, change and go riding.

                                Most night workers sleep when they get home. I used to go to sleep around 3:00PM and sleep until it was time to go to work.

                                I found I had more *horse time* working the off shift. Didn't have to worry about hurrying home before it got too dark to ride, the barn was usually quite empty and quiet.
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                                  Thanks guys your advice is very valuable. If I stay on the night shift I'll probably spend a few days figuring out what my energy flow is like.
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                                  • #18
                                    I work a switch of 8 to 4pm, 4 to midnight, or midnight to 8. Coming out of work at midnight I have way too much energy and I wish I could ride at that point. Barn closes at 9 definitly makes me miss my old barn where so long as I let the BO know earlier in the day I could go out and ride whenever I wanted so long as I locked up after and didn't make a racket that would wake her up in the house. She actually liked it because she had people coming in to the barn checking on the horses in the night.

                                    I find in the mornings I could go to the barn and ride, but I probably couldn't drive home. So I don't
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                                    • #19
                                      I LOVED 3 to midnight... I could get enough sleep, get up in the morning and ride and then if I budgeted my time well I could even take a nap before going in... of course this was before kiddo and back when I rode and had a living husband.

                                      Then when I went overnights (8 pm -6:30 AM), had a living husband and no kid, I could ride when I got home from work. At one point I was keeping my mare at my trainer's place (I don't have a ring) and we'd ride together in the mornings... that was SO much fun!!! There were a lot of mornings where I was EXHAUSTED.

                                      Then I had a kid... no time to ride with a little one. Now I have a little kid and no living husband, so I only very rarely get a chance to ride.

                                      But... it is still possible to get riding time in when you work overnights. My situation, is unique.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by AKB View Post
                                        Night shift is tough for a lot of people. When I work nights, I am so out of it that I would not consider riding. I never adapt well to night shift. Day and evening shifts are my preference.
                                        I'll ditto this, because it bears saying again. I'm a night owl, and have worked night shift almost exclusively since going to work in my industry. I love it. But I know coworkers who have been absolutely miserable, to the point of needing medication. Some people are just NOT meant to be night people. Bear this in mind as you're starting your job, especially if you're not used to late nights.

                                        I could never go do a lesson after working 12 hours. It would be completely unproductive and unfair to my horse. I've gone out to meet the farrier or vet right after work, and even that's exhausting. It sounds like you're planning on taking a while to figure things out schedule-wise, which is good. Be prepared to be tired for a few weeks, and congrats on the new job
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