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Anyone remember Shireland in Northern IL?

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  • #21
    I would be very curious to learn how much of his fortune was wizzed away during those Shireland years. In addition to building Shireland and recklessly breeding a gazzillion Shires for which there was no market, he was also buying up farms in the area. You could tell if he bought a farm because the first thing he did was paint the barn fire engine red. Most of those farms seem to have been sold or are falling apart now.

    Speaking of reckless breeding, at some point he switched from breeding Shires to trying to get into sporthorses by crossing them with TBs. I know, because I was trying to rehome a TB mare at the time, and called on an ad they were running looking for FREE mares (ugg). As soon as I found out who it was I said no way. But I imagine that program went the same way as the Shires... no real plan and probably no comprehension of breeding for important things like soundness and temperament.
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    • #22
      Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
      Just discovered the glory that is Shireland (which I never knew about before) and thought I'd bump this OLD thread in case anyone wanted to buy a piece of nostalgia on eBay

      It's the stuff of nightmares, be forewarned.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigantic-11-...QAAOSwKfVXHB00
      $8K for a used dragon statue? I am clearly in the wrong business
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      • #23
        Originally posted by Giddy-up View Post

        $8K for a used dragon statue? I am clearly in the wrong business
        The dragon egg is a steal at $950
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        • #24
          Originally posted by vxf111 View Post

          The dragon egg is a steal at $950
          I didn't even see the other stuff! Ohhh I just saw it for $250. Now where can I put a dragon egg??? Is that more of a front yard or back yard décor?
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          • #25
            Originally posted by downen View Post
            Speaking of reckless breeding, at some point he switched from breeding Shires to trying to get into sporthorses by crossing them with TBs. I know, because I was trying to rehome a TB mare at the time, and called on an ad they were running looking for FREE mares (ugg). As soon as I found out who it was I said no way. But I imagine that program went the same way as the Shires... no real plan and probably no comprehension of breeding for important things like soundness and temperament.
            I remember going to one of those sales with the sporthorse crosses for sale. He was asking ridiculous prices for them and was getting upset no one was bidding on them! Only a couple of horses were sold that night and I don't remember ever hearing about another auction again.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by RubyTuesday View Post

              You had a bad one down there too outside of Lexington who stowed away tons of ponies of several different breeds all over the place. I think he still has some but has become too clever at hiding them now.
              Not surprising...lots of horse hoarding going on down here. People think they can get rich by breeding any 2 horses together! We had one (a physician) who had 4 TB stallions and a ton of TB mares. He hadn't won a race in about 20 years but just kept breeding them. He ended up dying and the horses were in bad shape before the authorities stepped in. It is really sad how little we can do when we hear of a neglect or abuse case.

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              • #27
                Not for this price, but I'd take this! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-walking...3D371608179564
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                • #28
                  The original post has been a revelation to me. Having been a member of the Shire Horse Society in the UK for 20 years (I gave up my membership almost 2 years ago as a protest to the Society's registration of a "grey" stallion that is, in fact, roan - which is disqualifying for Shire stallions), there was so much talk about how Mr. Smrt helped "save" the Shire Horse from extinction. How, you might ask, did he do that? He put his hand in his pocket and, initially, bought a hundred plus Shire horses from Society members for his Fox Valley Farm in Illinois. Shire breeders lined up and sold stock to this extravagant, eccentric Yank who was going to put Shires on the map in the States, perhaps as a way of displacing the Clyde as the most familiar heavy horse. (No offence is meant to those serious Shire breeder/exhibitors in the US.) Even my completely urban mother-in-law, with no experience of the countryside, in general, or breeds of draft horses, in particular, thought our Shires were Clydesdales. In her mind, all heavies with white feathered legs and blazes, were Clydes).

                  It doesn't surprise me when I read that Mr. Smrt's horses weren't optimally cared for or that he bred dozens upon dozens of foals each year with no market. Half a dozen Shires are enough work for anyone on a daily basis. A hundred plus? With his volatile temperament, I wonder just how many employees Mr. Smrt could retain to carry out the gargantuan task of caring for that many Shire horses? And the removal of their combined dung? Is it any wonder that numbers of them, most assuredly, fell through the cracks?

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                  • #29
                    All of the stuff on ebay sold at auction at the farm last year.

                    I see someone else already noted that. Sorry.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by RubyTuesday View Post

                      One must wonder about that 53ft semi trailer and the fact that one of the auctioneers was from New Holland. If it' was an absolute auction no special auctioneer would have been required.
                      The PA auctioneer is a specialist in Carriages so that would account for that. I am not sure what your absolute auction statement is supposed to mean.

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                      • #31
                        Mr. Smrt has declined in health, and is no longer living on the farm. The county animal control officers were frequent visitors to the farm for years, and at one point a few years go, the ASPCA was on site for three days evaluating the remaining horses, which were all completely unhandled, and in horrific condition. As soon as Mr. Smrt mentioned his attorney, the county AC declined to support the ASPCA in a seizure. Since the ASPCA relies on local law enforcement and animal controls to invite them in via a MOU, their hands were tied.

                        Last spring, Mr 2HG attended the auction, which drew draft people from all 50 states and Canada. He did not see any horses, but heard that as of a month or so ago, that there are horses once again on Fox Valley Farms property from someone who drives by daily.

                        The land itself presents its own challenges - whoever buys it is going to have a large biological clean-up operation ahead of them, as there are many mass graves of Shires throughout the property. Mr. Smrt either buried them where they dropped, or dragged them to open pits.

                        Mr. 2HG is about as far from a woo-woo kind of person that you can get, but he swears there was a sense, a feeling, a presence, of the horses that had died on the farm.
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