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  • $15k for a trail horse?

    So I am home sick today and was looking on a few horsey sites and came across a for sale ad. The horse is a paint horse with ok bloodlines whose greatest acheivement is moving up the levels in a well known horsemanship program. He has never been shown, no points or merits. He is being marketed as a trail horse and is listed for $15,000!

    I am a trail rider and think this is a a lot of money to pay for a trail tank. Since I would never spend this much for a horse I wondered what do you expect performance wise for a horse priced at $15,000 and up?

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    I would expect that the horse would have done SOMETHING lol! "Levels" are pretty subjective. I have seen some "level III" horses that make my two year old mini whinnies look like super stars.

    I would want to know the horse can do what I want (lol...ride!) and has been actually trained to do something with some level of competency. Doesn't mean they make a good trail horse tho...Ugh...I guess for $15k I would want something pretty darn speshul in this economy.
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      For 15 Grand, he should have completed Tevis four times, each time breaking the previous record.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ChocoMare View Post
        For 15 Grand, he should have completed Tevis four times, each time breaking the previous record.
        Well, no. THAT horse should never be for sale!!

        A horse is worth what someone will pay for him. There may well be a follower of that horsemanship system that considers it worth $15K. And then they will spend another $30K getting the horse to where it will be a good trail horse ...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by spotnnotfarm View Post
          So I am home sick today and was looking on a few horsey sites and came across a for sale ad. The horse is a paint horse with ok bloodlines whose greatest acheivement is moving up the levels in a well known horsemanship program. He has never been shown, no points or merits. He is being marketed as a trail horse and is listed for $15,000!

          I am a trail rider and think this is a a lot of money to pay for a trail tank. Since I would never spend this much for a horse I wondered what do you expect performance wise for a horse priced at $15,000 and up?
          Depends on the age and ability of said horse. I would expect to pay $15,000+ for a fancy 3 year old not even started under saddle.

          Otherwise, I'm kind of thinking about your question in an upside-down kind of way -- as in - what would I expect "performance wise" for a horse priced under $15,000.00? Not a whole heck of a lot.
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          • #6
            But we are talking trail horse Saultgirl. And you can find a dream trail horse that has done it all for much less than 15K. My Paco has done it all and I would trust my life to him and he came right from Sunkissed Acres.

            Me thinks this $15k trail horse will be sitting for a while.
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            • #7
              $15k trail horse? well, I'd expect him to have groomed and tacked up himself, and to have the trailer hitched and loaded by himself before I arrive at the barn; to be so bomb-proof you can shoot guns off him while children and dogs run under his belly; to be able to complete Tevis barefoot without breaking a sweat or getting sore while carrying someone who doesn't know how to ride; to ground-tie for hours; to lie down on command to let someone who broke a leg out in the woods to crawl aboard. For THAT I'd pay $15k.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wendy View Post
                $15k trail horse? well, I'd expect him to have groomed and tacked up himself, and to have the trailer hitched and loaded by himself before I arrive at the barn; to be so bomb-proof you can shoot guns off him while children and dogs run under his belly; to be able to complete Tevis barefoot without breaking a sweat or getting sore while carrying someone who doesn't know how to ride; to ground-tie for hours; to lie down on command to let someone who broke a leg out in the woods to crawl aboard. For THAT I'd pay $15k.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wendy View Post
                  $15k trail horse? well, I'd expect him to have groomed and tacked up himself, and to have the trailer hitched and loaded by himself before I arrive at the barn; to be so bomb-proof you can shoot guns off him while children and dogs run under his belly; to be able to complete Tevis barefoot without breaking a sweat or getting sore while carrying someone who doesn't know how to ride; to ground-tie for hours; to lie down on command to let someone who broke a leg out in the woods to crawl aboard. For THAT I'd pay $15k.
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                  • #10
                    Ive seen "trail horses" sell for well more than that. When the buyer to be shows up in a 75k car 15 grand is a drop on the bucket. "Expensive" is subjective. I know people who wouldnt' be caught dead in anything less than 300 dollars jeans, 500 dollar shoes or riding a horse less than 20k. Yes without ever intending to step foot in the show ring. I helped my former boss sell not one, not two, not three but FOUR former World Show Horses that has World and Reserve Championships in everything from Western Pleasure to Working Hunters (breed show). These horses were NOT sold to people that wanted to show, they were sold to people who just wanted a horse, a nice fancy, highly trained horses with "worth". They did nothing more than take lesson, ride on the trails and pay expensive bills.

                    Our 'non show' trail horses STARTED at 8k. Yes there is a market for very expensive trail horses. I knew a kid (about 15) that a great black arab gelding that never showed a day in his life but way paid 10k for. The parents owned a home worth a little less than a million dollars. They would never consider putting their kid on a "low class" horse. 10k was their miminum. Just because MOST people would never dream of paying an "outrageous" price for a horse doesn't mean other people consider the price high. Again 'expensive' is a matter of personal opinion and personal finance.

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                      I do know people have different ideas of expensive. However most of the horses I have come in contact with at that proce range are show horses or young horses with a lot of promise as a show horse. I think the people who have to have an expensive horse for the sake of a price tag are not the norm in my experience.

                      I recently saw a horse advertised that had been trail ridden all over the South East, excellent manners, loaded, and was gorgeous. He was $2500.

                      I have seen some of the rare breeds advertised at high prices but I can understand that. A paint with training in a certain program, just to me, does not have the value of that price tag.

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                      • #12
                        It's subjective. They're probably dreaming but it depends on the situation - if it's the sort of horse you can put grandma on and he'll pack her around to and fro, and a family that has the money and wants that sort of insurance policy - I can understand it. Doesn't mean I'd spend it - I would not.
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                        • #13
                          Did the ad say "owner off to college" ? That usually tacks on a few thousand extra.

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                          • #14
                            As has been noted, a horse is worth what someone will pay for it. Over the years, I've seen horses 'not' sell at what was originally deemed a reasonable asking price- and then sell when the asking price was raised! Something psychological in 'oh, that's too good a price, must be something wrong with the horse.' And conversely I have seen dead lame horses sold for more than $15k even 20 years ago!

                            If you want to buy my good 6 yo trail horse (and I get asked at least once a month if he's for sale)- well, if you offer $25k, I might start thinking about it. I paid $2500 for him and he's one of those anyone can ride types with a lap dog personality. While I've personally never spent more than $4k for a horse- more often $750 to $1k, or freebies- I am of the opinion that it's worth the extra bucks to get a well schooled and sound horse, regardless of discipline- if you are buying and owning horses, it's one of those black holes into which you throw money anyway, better to invest it in the horse than pay medical bills when you get dumped by the beast!

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                            • #15
                              For $15,000 I would expect him to come with 9 buddies or a nice trailer.

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                              • #16
                                Are we sure they are talking "trail horse" as in haul to the nearest state park each Saturday, and not "trail horse" as in take it to shows and show in trail classes?

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                                • #17
                                  I was trail riding this past weekend with a good friend. She's comfortably well off, and her main focus is dressage, so she has nice horses, and the one she was riding this weekend was probably somewhere near this price range when she bought him as a youngster; he's approaching his prime right now. He's a gorgeous mover, very functionally built and attractive, but a basic bay in color and a bit of a pistol on the ground away from home. So, our trailers are parked next to each other, and, once again, another pleasure trail rider walks up and asks me if I'd ever consider selling my horse--one I paid a generous price for, but less than half the price of the horse in question here, ten years ago. I say "once again" because this happens over and over when we're trail riding together. My guy is an aged buckskin QH, with a bit of drop in his back and a somewhat low, thick neck, but he has impecable manners, is easy, easy, easy to handle, stout, wise, sound and also handsome.

                                  Amongst many of us in this discussion, my friend's horse would instantly be the preferred animal, and the price in question would be a bargain for him. Among pleasure trail riders, my fellow has a lot more appeal ... though, honestly, I wouldn't want to sell him to anyone who would be willing to pay that much for him, if you get my drift.

                                  Actually, as I told the man who asked, he IS a once-in-a-lifetime type, and I don't anticipate him ever being for sale, at any price .
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                                  • #18
                                    Even if I HAD the money, I consider that price absurd for anything that isn't going to race, and even these days not for most of them, either. (No, I would never pay that kind of money for just a show horse, especially not a weanling or yearling that's just going to stand around eating and growing until he's four or five.)

                                    A TRAIL horse? I better be able to ride him through a mine field in a tornado while being chased by a hungry pride of lions without him batting an eyelash. However, if he IS bomb-proof, I at least could see paying that kind of money for him over a "hunter prospect" that isn't even going to be rideable for years. Compared to the average show horse or middling race horse, a genuine BTDT packer *is* worth his weight in gold.

                                    Good luck in this market, though.
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                                    • #19
                                      I'm outside of DC and not in the market, but I'd easily pay $10K for a 16h bombproof trail horse that can go out by himself, is sweet, with good ground manners, sound and doesn't mind a little ringwork when the weather is bad. In fact, around here I'd probably have to pay a lot more than that . . .

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                                        Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
                                        Are we sure they are talking "trail horse" as in haul to the nearest state park each Saturday, and not "trail horse" as in take it to shows and show in trail classes?
                                        He was a Saturday trail horse. All the pictures of him were in a halter and bareback!

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