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Donating your horse to a zoo for Tiger/Lion meat?

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  • Donating your horse to a zoo for Tiger/Lion meat?

    A friend of mine did this a little bit ago, anyone able to do it?

    I don't think I could. YIKES.

    I did call and ask for the details for my benifit. You have to call to make sure they need the meat as they don't like to hold it--they want fresh. If they are good on taking the horse, they have you bring him in with a halter and then leave him. They give you free tickets (4) for your donation to the zoo, then they wait for you to leave. They have an "expert" who shoots the animal and nothing is wasted.

    My friend who did this told me that since she could not burry her horse, that she didn't want the "truck" to pick him up to take to the by product place, which I guess is also not very nice.
    *Better to have loved than to have never loved at all.*
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    I will not do this. I am sure that my horses will smell, will see, and will hear what's out there and will feel frightened by what's out there. Therefore, I will not subject my "children" to this frightening experiences.
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      Originally posted by Horsecrazy27 View Post

      I don't think I could. YIKES.

      I did call and ask for the details for my benifit. You have to call to make sure they need the meat as they don't like to hold it--they want fresh. If they are good on taking the horse, they have you bring him in with a halter and then leave him. They give you free tickets (4) for your donation to the zoo, then they wait for you to leave. They have an "expert" who shoots the animal and nothing is wasted.
      Ditto. I also think 4 free tickets to the zoo is a bit tacky in that sort of situation, but I guess it depends on how you viewed your horse. I don't want my horses life to end that way. If I can't bury him here, I have friends with tons of land and horses, hopefully I can give my guy a quiet end and a nice spot to rest his body. They've given permission already, and have other "friends" horses buried in various spots. I just hope I'm blessed enough to be able to give him a noble end, after all he gave me. Leaving him in strange hands to be shot and fed to hungry animals doesn't do it for me. Personal choice.

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      • #4
        YIKES.

        Couldn't even fathom dropping a horse at a zoo.

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        • #5
          Be sure to check with the county to see if you can bury your horse out in the land. It is much more dignified and beautiful to see a tree growing on top of where your horse is buried.
          Will get a dream horse!
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          • #6
            While I wouldn't do it to my guy, I can't slam another if they did. I understand the "no waste" argument. And frankly, it seems kinder than the slaughter houses.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Appassionato View Post
              While I wouldn't do it to my guy, I can't slam another if they did. I understand the "no waste" argument. And frankly, it seems kinder than the slaughter houses.
              Agree completely. For those people that would take their horse to auction this sounds far nicer. At least they won't be stuck in a holding pen for ages and as long as the guy doing it does it quickly and immediately it sounds far preferable to some of the alternatives.

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              • #8
                I'd feel comfortable with it if I could be with my horse when they shot it. I don't like the idea of leaving them there.

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                • #9
                  I don't have a problem with it. When I was younger and living back east, we would take the old or injured horses to the hounds that were used for foxhunting. It was traditional for the old foxhunters to die this way. So, I don't look at the zoo situation any differently.
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                  • #10
                    No thanks.

                    There is no way I could do that to my horse. I, like others who have posted here, wouldn't bash someone who did but it's definitely not an option for me.

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                    • #11
                      Thank you for posting the info. It does give another option to those that are looking outside the traditional choices.
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                        I also visited the zoo (this was before she did this) and my vet. really supports the idea and it was something I said in passing to my friend. Then she did it. When I was there visiiting I saw 2 horses, so I went to the main office and asked what was up with the live horses out with the zebra's! She said that someone brought them there, nothing wrong with either of them, but the owner didn't want anymore. So, they have kept them and have had them for several years. They did not feel like they should take the life of a perfectly good horse. They said they prefer to get horses that NEED to be put down. They also said they treat those horses with the utmost respect and said that with out those kind of contributions, they would not survive.

                        I know I wouldn't be able to do it. The last time one of my horses passed on, I was living on a 380 acre ranch and she was burried looking over a polo field with an apple tree planted on her. It was a wonderful feature and a wonderful end for a wonderful horse.

                        OH, by the way, the parking lot is FAR from the lions and such----around 10 acres away.....they are led into a fenced in area and tied to a post. SO, although they can no doubt smell, they aren't looking at the faces of hungry lions and such.
                        *Better to have loved than to have never loved at all.*
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                          #13
                          The dogs would eat the horses?

                          Originally posted by jparkes View Post
                          I don't have a problem with it. When I was younger and living back east, we would take the old or injured horses to the hounds that were used for foxhunting. It was traditional for the old foxhunters to die this way. So, I don't look at the zoo situation any differently.
                          I have never heard of this? Am I understanding you correctly?
                          *Better to have loved than to have never loved at all.*
                          ALWAYS Blessings NEVER losses.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Horsecrazy27 View Post
                            I have never heard of this? Am I understanding you correctly?
                            Yes, some still practice this.
                            RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
                            5/5/84-7/12/08

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Appassionato View Post
                              While I wouldn't do it to my guy, I can't slam another if they did. I understand the "no waste" argument. And frankly, it seems kinder than the slaughter houses.


                              It wouldn't be my choice, but still better than other options out there.
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                              • #16
                                In South Africa it's common practice to donate your horse's body to the lion parks. It's sort of like recycling. People there don't even bat an eye.

                                That being said, I would have to be in a desperate spot (ie...burial or removal not possible for some reason) to take my babies to a zoo as their final resting place.

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                                • #17
                                  I just think the horse can smell or sense the predators. There isn't much lost on a horse when it comes to a horse-eater animal in the vicinity. I would not want that kind of fear and stress to be a part of his last minutes.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Appassionato View Post
                                    While I wouldn't do it to my guy, I can't slam another if they did. I understand the "no waste" argument. And frankly, it seems kinder than the slaughter houses.

                                    and the auction that precedes the trip to the slaughterhouse.
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                                    • #19
                                      As far as giving your horse to the hound kennel, yes this still goes on.
                                      It is a traditional way to give back to the sport that give's so much.

                                      Ware Whip!
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                                      • #20
                                        Although sending horses to zoos and the hounds is done I just don't get it.... Be that as it may.....

                                        Peggy Jett Pittenger, who wrote the book on reschooling Thoroughbreds, wrote that one of the best Thoroughbred mares she ever owned came from a zoo where it was intended as the animals' meal. I don't know if she had an "in" at the zoo or if they sold horses instead of killing them as a general rule but I thought that was a very telling story she wrote. The mare turned out to be a winner as a steeplechaser and had several foals who were equally as talented.
                                        "None of us can move forward if half of us are being held back." ~Anonymous~

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