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  • Tying a horses leg up???

    OK, I realize I may get flamed for this but Clinton Anderson is on RFDTV LONGEING a horse with one of it's front legs tied up. And he says he's doing this to train submissiveness. And he said that sometimes the horse will knock himself in the chin with the tied up leg as they flail around but this is no big deal since they did it to themselves. The horse fell on his untied front knee once too, which was also no big deal - according to Anderson - as the footing is soft. WTF??? Oh Gawd - now he's doing something called a side line. He's tying the two legs on the same side together with about a 2 1/2 long piece of "seat belt strap" as he called it. Enough already. I'm changing the channel.
    Robin

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    One thing you will learn with horses - there are a lot of c***suckers about - I observe everyone, and pick what I think is quality.

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      Originally posted by Robyn View Post
      Oh Gawd - now he's doing something called a side line. He's tying the two legs on the same side together with about a 2 1/2 long piece of "seat belt strap" as he called it.
      Would that make the horse pace??

      I am not familiar with any of this or seen the show.
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        Tying a horse's leg up is sometimes the only way to deter certain behaviors but I have to say that I, personally, would not try to lunge a horse that way--seems to me that is just a bit excessive. And I wouldn't leave the leg tied up for hours at a time either.... Sometimes I think these people are beginning to buy into their own hype....

        The side line is akin to hobbling. Done correctly no one gets hurt and it does serve a useful purpose, especially if you are a workin' cowboy with no place to tie your horse out in the wide open spaces....
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        • #5
          Why on EARTH would a person want to do that to a horse? Good lord.

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            Maybe, if the tie were longer. I know that they do have something like that for pacers but that is not the intent here. The intent is to make the horse "submissive."
            Robin

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              Come on, folks! That's what NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP is all about! Training a horse with artificial means!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by moonriverfarm View Post
                Come on, folks! That's what NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP is all about! Training a horse with artificial means!
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                • #9
                  BULL HOCKEY

                  It's what CLINTON is ABOUT.

                  Chris Cox just won Road to the Horse using nothing remotely like Clinton's bag of tricks. The honest and sane approach won the day.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah there are definately some very "different" schools of thought out there!

                    I live in a rural part of South Texas where I frequent the local Rodeo Arena (Since I have my kids at home and do not have my own facilities) and to tell you the things I see that these people believe benefits their horses is to me very-well......Interesting??

                    I have seen horses that have their legs tied up because they are trying to make them "lighter" for roping and a passle of other things! I it just very foreign to me to see what training methods that they have come up with-but of course to each his own eh?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cherry View Post
                      The side line is akin to hobbling. Done correctly no one gets hurt and it does serve a useful purpose, especially if you are a workin' cowboy with no place to tie your horse out in the wide open spaces....
                      So it's not something you'd do & then try to lunge the horse?

                      I can understand for teaching a horse to stand using it, but I was getting lost there why you'd want them to lunge with their legs tied together.

                      I also understand the submissive thing (tying a front leg). In the right hands it's probably a useful technique, but not something Average Joe should try at home.

                      I don't think I get this TV channel???
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                        It is amazing to me how tolerant horses are and what they will put up with and not kill the person who abused them.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tweeds-n-Kip View Post
                          I have seen horses that have their legs tied up because they are trying to make them "lighter" for roping and a passle of other things!
                          So if I tied up my jumpers front leg for awhile it would maybe teach him to use his hind end more??
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                            Originally posted by Giddy-up View Post
                            So if I tied up my jumpers front leg for awhile it would maybe teach him to use his hind end more??
                            Try tying both front legs up... then he'll REALLY use his hind end.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by anabug View Post
                              Try tying both front legs up... then he'll REALLY use his hind end.
                              Especially if you tie both fronts up and then JUMP him!
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho" View Post
                                It is amazing to me how tolerant horses are and what they will put up with and not kill the person who abused them.
                                AMEN Sister!!!!

                                I use the "hold the leg up trick" once in a while, but it involves me holding the leg myself. We were getting an ultra sound done last year and he was dancing a little. The vet said something a/b tranq and I said, "how about this". He got this sh*tty grin on his face, laughed and went back to work.

                                IMHO, the only thing a "carrot stick" should be used for is to beat the person using it.
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                                • #17
                                  Sounds like a good way to rack up a nice big vet bill to me.
                                  She wasn't running away with me, I just couldn't stop her!

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                                    i dont beleive in bullying tactics--- ahorse will do anything for you as long as you ask politely

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                                    • #19
                                      When we work cattle, we hobble horses when we are not riding, but working on the ground.
                                      That is to keep them in one place, if there are no fences or trees or anything to tie them to, or sometimes so they can move enough to graze a little.
                                      Definitely don't do it and run them around, so they learn to be "submissive".

                                      A few times someone has to use three way hobbling, if a horse has learned to run with the front hobbles, but that is rare.

                                      Some cowboys still start colts by hobbling them, but that today is so horses learn to stand there with things around their legs, a safety measure, if they ever get into a fence or tangled in a rope.

                                      Can't tell what CA may have been trying to do there, didn't see that.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by moonriverfarm View Post
                                        Come on, folks! That's what NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP is all about! Training a horse with artificial means!
                                        *snorts diet coke out nose* I think you nailed it!

                                        I don't understand the whole submission thing to begin with. If you ask properly, you usually get what you asked for. Endless drills to convince the horse that he's a lesser being aren't necessary.

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