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  • Best place out west to open a barn?

    Does a place exist out West where it is actually NOT a bad idea to open a barn? A training/boarding facility that offers training, coaching, boarding, sales, breaking, re-training problem horses, etc. Pretty much everything but the kitchen sink.

    When I was out there in the Rockies, the barns were really suffering from the downturn in the economy. In about a year, is there any place you can actually see some growth and potential for such a horsey business? Colorado? Kalispell, Mt area? Oregon? Any opinions?

    Asking for a friend who is considering a year+ plan to open a boarding/training/breaking/sales business somewhere in the Rockies.

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    I'd say someone needs to do some surveying and number crunching.

    If I were in the position (and dumb enough, lol) to start a horse business, I'd make sure I could achieve this miracle:

    Find a metro-area where land values dropped off steeply not too far out of the city.

    The biggest, daily, PITA, unfixable problem at barns for we horse owners is lack of T/O. (That's followed as a close second by an undercapitalized business that just doesn't have the rings/footing/maintenance needed to help us actually ride and train consistently enough to *get somewhere* with our horses.)

    If your friend can possibly do it, choose a piece of land that backs up to a state park with horse trails, or a place where many within trailering distance abound.

    If you want boarders, a lesson and/or training program, the barn needs to be near a city where people have the coin to drop on their horse habit. So the commute question becomes key.

    It does take a miracle of sorts, but definitely have her look at the relationship between land values and distance from a city.
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    • #3
      ColtsUnlimited in Sheridan Wyoming does that and they are fantastic. You'd have to be pretty good to compete with them I'd think.

      That said Fort Collins was (and from what I hear) has no good barns, when I went to school there, my horses were in Longmont and then Parker because nothing worth a crap up in Ft Fun. I always thought that would be the place to open up a GOOD barn, not just a back yard place. I haven't been to Ft Collins in 3 years, so maybe that's changed!
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      • #4
        This is going to vary HUGELY based on discipline, even within a state. Here in Oregon, the north end of the willamette valley is fairly dense with higher-end hunters, jumpers, and dressage. Farther south, where I'm at - Salem - for example, is less so. A fancy new facility was built just outside the city and for all intents and purposes appears to have tried to cater to the 'upper class' client, and has not done so well. The heated viewing rooms with cameras in the arena to watch your child's lesson with one of the three "wannabe big name" dressage trainers, the gift shop, the fancy tile in the washrack and aisleways lined with (poorly laid) rubber pavers... there just isn't a demand for these types of facilities in this town. They started out offering full care for around $500/mo, and are now down to $395 and are not full. The place is nice, yes. But there is just really no market for a high-end, full service facility around here, especially not without a well-known, successful semi-BNT attached to it. PeopMost of the horsie crowd in this town are small time pleasure show riders, trail riders, or breed show types, with a handful of dressage, eventers, and h/j sprinkled in.

        Eastern Oregon is a completely different world, both in terms of climate and horsie population.

        It really depends on the area, the discipline you intend to market to, and the 'level' of client you're hoping for.

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        • #5
          Fort Collins doesn't have any good barns that I have seen. The best dressage trainer in the area- well, I thought was frightening- H/J trainers...

          It's a great area, and we'd love a great barn, that held up to east or west coast standards.

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          • #6
            E Oregon and Washington

            E. Oregon isn't really the place to open up a training facility because things are so spread out and most of the cowboys training their own horses or send them to friend or neighbor.

            I currently live in Pullman, WA and there are no decent places to board or take lessons. The are a lot horses around here, and we are less than two hours S. of Spokane, and an hour N. of Lewiston/Clarkston. We also have a Vet School and lots of students that bring their horses with them to WSU. There is a therapy riding program here too that I'm sure would love a new place to board at... It's also really hard to find a place with an indoor area and turnout. Most place that have safe turnout don't have arenas, and vice versa....

            Just my thoughts...
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            • #7
              The problem with Fort Collins from a business perspective (I was a BM there for a couple of years and considered opening my own barn for a time, long story but decided against it after crunching some numbers) is that while there is a serious lack of good barns, there are just so darn many of them that it is hard to attract enough clients to make a good barn feasible. If someone were to come in with an established enough name they could probably do well, but the trainers who are already there are pretty well respected (whether right or wrong; I tend to agree with FP on that). To me, a couple of years ago, it seemed too risky, but YMMV.
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                All very interesting! Looks like it's worth looking into Ft. Collins and the WA town mentioned...she's planning on taking a year+ (I think I mentioned this?) to crunch numbers/create a business plan/find funding.

                Has anyone been to Tri H in Bozeman? It's GORGEOUS but Mary, the manager, told me the owners barely break even each month and that its more of a 'hobby business' for them (I think they are seasonal folks). It's super expensive though. It seems like it's hard to create just the right set up (not too fancy, not a backyard place {ick, ick, ick}) with quality instruction...

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