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  • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

    If you are worried about the "deodorant causes breast cancer" hype, try some of the new deodorants sans aluminum. From what I understand, the aluminum is the alleged problem. I believe Secret makes one called Platinum? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Nope, it's got aluminum in it too. I actually have that brand right now. Why is it "hype" to worry about this when studies have shown a possible link to breast cancer?

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    • out of curiosity...what are the deodorants without the aluminum?
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      • I missed the beginning of this thread so I am kind of late, but I just wanted to comment.

        Those of you who think that antiperspirant or deodorant products cause or increase the risk of breast cancer, please read this link.

        http://www.breastcancer.org/res_news_antiper.html

        Don't get me started on the deficiencies in research in the McGrath paper that Daydream Believer has cited as "proof" of a link between these products and breast cancer.

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        • I am still laughing at how overly PC the world has become. In this instance, I am longing for the days of "Dude, you stink! Use deodorant!"

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          • I was not going to contribute to that lengthy thread, but as a French woman some of these comments/stereotypes (from people who probably have never set foot in Europe nor LIVED with the "natives") IRKED me.

            Yes, BO in the Paris subway can be overwhelming, especially during the evening commute, just like it can be in the New York metro or in any other hot, cramped place. Do you actually think people LIKE that? They just bear it.

            FYI, people DO wear deodorant in France and the rest of Europe. They also DO take a shower every day. At least all the people I know!

            Before coming to the US I had no idea BO could be such a big conversation topic
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            • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by spotted mustang:
              you people crack me up.

              Americans are scent-phobic?
              Europeans have BO and don't use deodorant (which Europeans, if I may ask? Fins? Hungarians? Spaniards? All of them?)

              where on earth do you people get these ridiculous cliches? Do you get all your education out of movies?

              I've lived on both continents, and nope, Europeans aren't any smellier than Americans. No one likes extreme BO, because extreme BO is usually a sign of some sort of health problem. Everybody smells a little, but normal people don't smell extremely, even when sweaty or after exercising.

              So...if these kids really stink so badly maybe you should send them off to a doctor. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

              My in-laws are Polish and they stink.

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              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Anne:
                I missed the beginning of this thread so I am kind of late, but I just wanted to comment.

                Those of you who think that antiperspirant or deodorant products cause or increase the risk of breast cancer, please read this link.

                http://www.breastcancer.org/res_news_antiper.html

                Don't get me started on the deficiencies in research in the McGrath paper that Daydream Believer has cited as "proof" of a link between these products and breast cancer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                Hey, don't misquote me. All I did was link to Snopes and THEY are the ones who stated a study showed a link to breast cancer. I merely brought this up after doing a little research when someone else suggested health concerns earlier in the thread hoping to start intelligent discussion on the topic and see what others thought of the idea. I sure hope your link is right and it's malarky/hype but there sure has been a lot of breast cancer diagnosed in women in the last couple decades and while there's probably more than one cause, it would be nice to know what is driving that wouldn't it?

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                • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daydream Believer:
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

                  If you are worried about the "deodorant causes breast cancer" hype, try some of the new deodorants sans aluminum. From what I understand, the aluminum is the alleged problem. I believe Secret makes one called Platinum? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Nope, it's got aluminum in it too. I actually have that brand right now. Why is it "hype" to worry about this when studies have shown a possible link to breast cancer? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  I didn't realize that it had aluminum. There's something out there that doesn't...a friend bought it and I thought she said it was the platinum. I'll have to ask her.

                  Well, I suppose I put it up there with the red dye #7/hot dog scare of the 80's and various other things to make you think you were dying. It seems as if there is SOMETHING in EVERYTHING that will cause SOMETHING POTENTIALLY fatal. I found out all of that farm raised salmon I've eaten is probably going to kill me too. I've just decided to live vicariously and not worry about those things. Chances are long-term exposure to BO are just as likely to kill me as deodorant use. Only 1/2 kidding there. Sorry to offend by my use of the word "hype."

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                  • what is it that makes the pit stains anyways? Some ppl are plagued by this and some arent. Is it something with the person, the type of deo they wear??
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                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChiVee:
                      I think it is completely appropriate for a caring adult to point something like personal hygiene out to a child. Other children can be really mean, if you are noticing it, I would be willing to bet other kids at school are noticing it.

                      I think it is mean spirited to not let a child know. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      THIS is correct. I work for the Boys and Girls Club and I come into contact with some stinky kids. Kids just aren't aware of how they smell. I make a little gift bag filled with "Bed, Bath, and Bodyworks" type smell good stuff for the kids. I pull the child aside, explain the necessity of hygiene, and give them the gift bag. Girls, particularly, love the gift. (You can find wonderful stuff at Big Lots, Dollar Store, etc)
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                      • Original Poster

                        Once again I would like to thank everyone who voiced their opinion about whether or not I should even address this, and gave me diplomatic ways to do it!

                        I will see them both tomorrow, and will see if I can handle it tactfully.

                        And, fwiw, one student is a home-schooled child from a family with 8 other children. Not sure if they have a hygiene class every year.

                        Both students are American.

                        Thanks again guys!

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                        • I'll be interested to see how you handle this. I personally couldn't tell a kid they reeked, but hopefully you came up with a tactful way to handle it.

                          The only thing I want to point out, though, is that it's YOU who has the problem with their smell - not them. I personally think that's a little bit selfish, but it certainly fits within our social codes and expectations.

                          I'm not sure why some people have pit stains and some don't. I would think it's the way your body chemistry reacts to the anti-perspirant you wear. Strangely, anti-perspirant, when first applied, makes me sweat more. The trick in avoiding stains is to let everything dry/regulate before putting on a shirt.

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                          • As for deodorants without chemicals or aluminum, I have one, it's called Crystal, it's a all-natural, odorless, clear "stone". It comes in a purple container. It is NOT a antiperspirant, but it is very good at keeping odors at bay. And no unwnated "perfume" either.

                            It's very hard to find no-aluminum deos that actually work. This one is the best I've tried so far.
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                            • For pete's sake, enough with the "deodrant/antipersperent cause cancer". There is no scientific proof & until there is I will continue to use the stuff (& yes, we do have breast cancer in the family-my mother & yes she survived it!). Have you ever thought that maybe just maybe the people that start these rumours have some vested interest in promoting another product! If we believed every little story out there, none of us would ever:
                              - go outside
                              - eat fish
                              - see a chiroprator, dr, etc.
                              - eat sunflower seeds
                              - wash our floors
                              Etc, etc............see my drift. No proof just old houswife tales.

                              And, I think, that we are seeing more breast cancer because it is just being diagnosed better. I think it's something that's always been there but just was undetected. (ie. ever wonder why so many people from the WW2 era died fairly young...now they breathed in some crappy stuff yet were not diagnosed with cancer, although they probably had it...their deaths were just contributed to something they did know about)..hope that makes sense!

                              Ok, rant done for the day!

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                              • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robby Johnson:
                                The only thing I want to point out, though, is that it's YOU who has the problem with their smell - not them. I personally think that's a little bit selfish, but it certainly fits within our social codes and expectations. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
                                So Robby, if your breath were so bad it could kill a moose, but you were unaware of it (believe me, it happens), you wouldn't want someone to find a way to tell you? It would just be everyone else's problem?
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                                • FWIW, Robby smells FABULOUS (it's Swiss Army).
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                                  • Of course. The situation I described is purely hypothetical!
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                                    • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BelladonnaLily:
                                      Let them know in one of the many diplomatic ways stated here on this thread. My husband is a farmer and sweats like a pig in the summer (it literally drips off of him at times). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                      Betcha he isn't a pig farmer. Pigs don't sweat which is why they like their mud puddles.
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                                      • <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eclipse:
                                        For pete's sake, enough with the "deodrant/antipersperent cause cancer". There is no scientific proof & until there is I will continue to use the stuff (& yes, we do have breast cancer in the family-my mother & yes she survived it!). Have you ever thought that maybe just maybe the people that start these rumours have some vested interest in promoting another product! If we believed every little story out there, none of us would ever:
                                        - go outside
                                        - eat fish
                                        - see a chiroprator, dr, etc.
                                        - eat sunflower seeds
                                        - wash our floors
                                        Etc, etc............see my drift. No proof just old houswife tales.

                                        And, I think, that we are seeing more breast cancer because it is just being diagnosed better. I think it's something that's always been there but just was undetected. (ie. ever wonder why so many people from the WW2 era died fairly young...now they breathed in some crappy stuff yet were not diagnosed with cancer, although they probably had it...their deaths were just contributed to something they did know about)..hope that makes sense!

                                        Ok, rant done for the day!

                                        http://www.breastcancer.org/cmn_myt_idx.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                                        You left out eating aas causes of cancer and illness

                                        I have actually heard about one study that linked breastcancer to reduced levels of Melatonin, which was believed to happen burning the midnight oil.

                                        They crossrefrenced nurses working almost exclusively nightshifts. It was really astonishing!

                                        There is more to the *sleep before midnight* than everybody thought!

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                                        • Another vote for ignore it! It isn't work, school, a date, it's a sport.

                                          Sometimes I wear deoderant to the barn, sometimes I don't, either way after a few rides, a few stalls on a hot day, yeah, I need a shower. Same as if I went for a run, played some basketball.

                                          Different people have different chemisty, so some may smell more, but I don't think as an instructor it's your place to point that out. Same as students with hideous hair cuts, bad fashion sense, etc.

                                          Bras I think are different--they do impact your riding. I had an instructor mention once that mine wasn't doing all that it could and I wasn't at all offended. But if an instructor told me I smelled, I should shave more frequently, something like that, I'd think it was not their business.

                                          (Plus you don't know that none of them use deoderant--if some of them do that could really make them feel bad)

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