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  • Horse won't go on a trailer - suggestions?

    My horse, an 8 year old OTTB with way too many brains in his head, suddenly decided he won't go on trailers anymore. He previously hadn't been trailered too often, but every time it was super easy, just hopped on and off we go. Of course, every time it was in a slant load.

    On Thursday I was supposed to move to a new barn. Got a local woman to take him. She has a straight load two-horse. Figment hopped on, but the divider and the wall hit him on both sides of the butt, and he developed a massive case of claustrophobia. He jumped off and we spent a good hour and a half trying to get him on. Divider, no divider, whatever. Eventually gave up.

    Today I found a lovely woman with a very very nice three horse slant load. Two hours later, no dice. Now I have a broken toe and probably some cracked foot bones - we'll see how it is in the morning.

    Please give me your suggestions to get horses in trailers. He was not angry, or scared or anything like that. It's like he just realized that he could say no, he didn't have to go on, and that's what he's doing from now on. He is so smart, and such a sweet horse, but right now he is just unbelievably frustrating.

  • #2
    There must be something in the air! My horse just had the same damn epiphany 1400# of "you can't load me".

    Funny thing though, today I got a free gift with my Jeffer's order - it was a trailer loading video - My whole family laughed themselves silly over it! We plan to watch it together in the AM & then go tackle the "unloadable one" - I'll let you know how it works. My horse has been hauled all over the country in everything from a two horse to a semi NEVER a problem - now he just "quit" - it's a head scratcher!
    "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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    • #3
      I think the problem with most horses is that they're are never actually trained to load. They go along with what they are asked to do, but when they finally figure out they can get away with not loading, you have no training to fall back to for fixing the problem.

      The video I used for my tough loader was John Lyon's Leading & Loading Safely. It made all the difference in the world and I highly recommend it. Maybe a local tack store has videos to rent?

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      • #4
        Fascinating. My mare arrived on a trailer. She's been to several clinics and events on trailers. She moved to a new barn on a trailer. All stock trailers/slant loads. Next weekend a friend is hauling us in a two horse straight load, so I thought I'd practice that ..ahem...before the morning of. No dice. I patiently worked on it for 45 minutes, I even loaded my older mare, who was delighted to go in and eat hay for as long as we wished. Then I begged for mercy and asked my trainer to help... in the end she gradually stepped on, a little at a time, then went nicely in and out four or five times and we called it a day. I've borrowed another trailer to practice with all week. Hopefully she'll be an old hand by show day!

        I suspect the previous poster is right - she's never really been taught to load, just fumbled her way through it in the past.

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        • #5
          I had an ASB mare that was "trained" to load by whipping her by her previous owner. One day getting ready for a show with hay bales laying next to the trailer she wouldn't get in. We made a chute with the hay bales one on each side and one behind. She'd walk forward and we'd move the bale behind enough to touch her legs and she'd just kept moving forward up the ramp and that was it. Did that several times to practice then took the bale from behind away and she'd load then took the bales on the sides away and she'd load. She didn't like the scratch of the hay on her legs and I knew she couldn't hurt herself. Takes two people but it was well worth it in the long run.

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          • #6
            Jake is a great loader...until one day we were leaving a friend's place to come home and he. just. plain. refused. (He usually loves to travel so not sure what happened that day.)

            "I don't hafta'" was his passive resistant attitude. It took a while, but I finally found that a "mean Mom - nice Mom" approach solved the problem.

            When he said "nope , don't hafta" I was mean Mom, sternly backing him a good ways across the yard ...then nice Mommy cheerily suggested "let's walk UP!" Two or three of those and he realized it was way better to go with nice Mommy than back up across the yard. The 'tude has not resurfaced so mean Mom stays away.

            Lots of people love the John Lyons video, there must be something to it, it seems to work for many horses. In our case I think I just wasn't meant to travel that day...who knows what we avoided?..but everything for a reason .

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            • #7
              Hey, it's working. Time spent today - 30 minutes. Again, she took ages to get up the courage to go those first few steps in (it's a hitting-her-head phobia). Once her shoulders are in she goes in easily. And second time she went in with very little hesitation.

              We refined the technique. One person in the trailer, gently asking for forward steps and rewarding each tiny step with release of the lead. The other person standing by her rump, gently rubbing and just gently nudging or patting and clucking, and also falling silent and stopping the nudging with each step forward.

              She backs out really nicely. But if she gets too pressured at the critical moment when her head is going under the doorway she flings back, so that's the part we need to be real gentle and "no hurry" about.

              If she does fling back we just keep the light pressure and walk out with her, and keep the light pressure til she stops and takes that first step forward again. She doesn't get wound up that way.

              She seems to find a lot of comfort in having a hand touching her.

              With my other horse if she balked I would tap tap her with a whip or wave my arms, but with this mare, that really shuts her down and makes her worry.

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              • #8
                When my mare went thru this, I had a friend help me out. I would lead her forward, friend stood just to the side of her where she wanted to run out. Friend had a wooden board about 8" wide and maybe 2 or 3 feet long. This particular trailer had a door that swung opened to the side, so the door gave her a boundary on that side. Mare decided to try to run sideways or back up, friend would just touch her with the board. It seemed to be enough of a visual boundary to keep the mare moving forward. Eventually she figured out that she was stuck, and forward was the only way to go. Once she was on, we backed her off and quit for the day.

                Now she self-loads on my 2h with ramp, as long as you catch her before she sees the trailer pull into the yard. Once she sees the trailer, she plays this game of "you can't catch me!!" Bucket of feed seems to resolve that issue.

                I also find that having someone who drives nicely helps a lot. Mare did briefly refuse to load onto my new trailer after one particularly hairy ride. Moron driving the trailer decided to make a sharp sudden turn into a parking lot. Almost flipped the trailer. She's much happier with my hubby driving

                Other thing I have found that helps. Park trailer in pasture with a nice big pile of hay just inside the back. Just make sure the truck is attached with parking brake on and the trailer wheels are blocked. Let pony introduce herself to trailer while munching on hay just inside it. Give that a couple days and they eventually decide that the trailer dispenses food.

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