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  • Has Anyone Traded Horse For Horse?

    My neighbor has a horse that I would love to own.She told me how much she paid for him, very little. The horse I own is a high dollar horse, but I really dont enjoy riding him.He recently had 18 months with a professional trainer and showed successfully on a national level. She often comments on what a nice horse I have. I would like to propose an even trade to her....providing her horse passes a vet check.My horse will vet fine.
    I did tell my trainer...he rode her horse last week and that is when I saw how nice the horse was. He said Proceed with caution.
    Any ideas how to proceed????

  • #2
    a girl that I show with did a trade on a horse. Had purchased the first with one trainer and then switched to a trainer who hated the horse. Horse was traded for another. I believe Stephanie Von Bidder was the trainer with the horse that facilitated the trade. Was easy from what I understand and no money changed hands.
    "ronnie was the gifted one, victor was the brilliant intellect, and i [GM], well, i am the plodder."

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    • #3
      Well a lot of trades go down at the barn where I board. Trainer has a contact in another state and they are constantly trading entire trailer loads of horses. Works out for them because they can always trade back.

      If your horse is a "high dollar horse" and "successful on the national level" why don't you simply sell him through your trainer and offer to purchase neighbor's horse if he vets? Ask your trainer what he thinks of this horse, if he thinks it is a fair trade, ask him to elaborate on why he thinks you should proceed with caution (i.e. does he know some undesirable details about potential new horse/current owner?). From where I'm standing it doesn't look like an even trade, but to you (or with more details) it may be.

      Be SURE to get a contract of the trade just as you would with a sale. As Jasmine said, things that look to good to be true usually are.

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      • #4
        It can be a very successful thing for 2 persons with horses that do not suit their goals, ability or what have you.

        WE have traded quite a bit, sometimes the trades come with a little money on one in sometimes not. ALWAYS have everything in writing and we tend to do a bill of sale for $1.00 each so it is a sale but we know it's a trade! CONTRACTS CONTRACTS CONTRACTS avoids problems and losing friends or colleagues!
        To be successful, you have to have your heart in your business, and your business in your heart

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          #5
          Thanks for your responses.

          I hate selling horses.People are sooo difficult to deal with. The other woman owns a lesson barn and doesnt ride the horse. Honestly, it would simlify things so much just to trade...I would be happy with that. If she wants to sell my horse later, good for her.
          I will be going to her farm tomorrow to observe a friends lesson.Maybe I will mention it then and see what her reaction is.

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          • #6
            I have once or twice traded horse for horse - not recently.

            I will tell you that when you don';t enjoy riding the horse you have you will not grow. Perhaps the ideal horse has been placed right where you can find it easily Go for it!
            "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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            • #7
              I traded a Morgan gelding, who I hated to ride, for an Arabian gelding (cribber). The Morgan was really more for driving than riding and I did not enjoy him either on the ground or on his back.. The Arab was a real doll and was more like a pet, although he was a great riding horse for me as well. It was an even (no money exchanged) trade and I never regretted it.

              If both parties are willing to do the trade and both horses vet out well, why not?? Go for it!!
              We do not have an overpopulation of dogs, we have an under population of responsible dog owners!!!

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              • #8
                I had a 3 year old once that i just flat out did not click with. Before i bought him i saw a girl who was just learning to ride (beyond the w/t/c hang on! stage) ride him all over the indoor and do wonderful. Every single time i tried to ride him it was bad bad bad. Even if all i did was get on and walk around on a loose rein all we did was argue with each other. I tried a million saddles that all fit well and finally just decided he hated me and that was it. On the ground he'd let me do anything, soon as I climbed on it was over. I paid $75 for this guy as part of a package deal (he was NICE too) so I wasn't overly concerned with our personality issues. I really only took him b/c i wanted the pony he came with and he wasn't in a good situation. I did an even trade for a horse that wasn't as nice, and much much greener, but didn't try to kill me when I rode her! Best thing I ever did. The people who took him rode him all over his paddock w/t/c after i had let him sit for 3 months and he didn't put a toe wrong. Right before they left i hopped on and before we even took 10 steps he was misbehaving...lets just say i wasn't overly sad to see him go.
                Donatello - 12.2hh, 9 year old, pony gelding
                April - 14.3hh, 14 year old, TB Mare
                Ella - 12hh, 4 year old, pony mare

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                • #9
                  I did an Even-Steven trade for my current horse. I had purchased a well bred PB, registered Arab mare and three months later put the word out locally that I was looking for a trainer to help finish her. The woman who ended up contacting me for the training gig had looked at this same mare the year before, but hadn't been able to reach a deal with the family that had her for sale.

                  This trainer wanted the mare, and I wanted a horse that was more suited to my skill level and interests. She offered me a straight across the board trade. I got a PB, registered Arab gelding that was the same age, just as well bred and much more suited to my re-rider body and level.

                  We had everything in writing, and I have been more than happy with the horse I ended up with. He is perfect for me and we are still a content team 5 years later.
                  Sheilah

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                  • #10
                    Why don't you just sell your high dollar horse and offer her double what she paid for hers? Then you'd have money left over for custom tack and pro training.

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                    • #11
                      I did a trade years ago, got the best horse I've ever owned out of it. Traded a crabby, moody, TB mare, for a wonderful teenage TB gelding. I needed to drop down a level and get my confidence back, the other owners had a son who wanted to move up from Ch Hunters.

                      Funny thing is, they ended breeding my mare and I ended up showing jumpers on their gelding that they didn't think could go higher than the 3' (I did the low JR/Am with him.)

                      Ask for a trial period to make sure you're both happy. I had 30 days but I think a week is reasonable.
                      You're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts!

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                      • #12
                        It sounds like you have fallen for the other horse, fallen out of love with your horse, and that may be coloring your ability to make a good financial decision for yourself. I would talk this over with some neutral people that you trust.

                        Also, have you ridden the other horse? Are you certain you two are a good match?

                        Can you send your horse to a sale barn (or does your trainer have the connections to sell him) and offer to purchase the other, less expensive horse in the meantime?

                        Trading CAN work out wonderfully, but there is no need for you to make an unwise financial decision just because you want a different horse. You can probably get the horse you want AND fair value for the horse you currently have. You just may need to be a little more patient -- or pony up the cash for the other horse now and keep two while selling your current horse.


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                        • #13
                          Yep. Treat it just like a sale, on both sides. Valuta changing hands is different (ownership, not money), that's all. Same PPE, same hold harmless, same guarantees (e.g., none). Written contract.

                          Good luck!

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                          • #14
                            I did a trade, even up, my TB mare for an adorable QH pony that my daughter fell in love with. When I first approached the owner, they said they weren't interested in selling, so I told them that I had a lovely mare that I had no time to ride (kids kept me too busy) maybe they would want to trade? Now my mare was worth much more than the pony, but I figured, worth more how? if I was getting something that I needed and they got something they needed......good enough for me! So after 2 PPEs, they brought pony over and left with my mare. Still keep in contact with them years later, they have since sold my mare, we sold the pony, but both sides agree it was sooo easy and perfect!

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                            • #15
                              We actually traded with an adopter -- they adopted horse A about 2 years before, a mostly recovered abuse case, who was doing well for them. Then he had a horrible case of panic and injured the husband (long story...). Wife was afraid of him and wanted something 'dead broke and easy'. Meantime, we have a 20 year old former lesson horse who needs a life as a quiet trail horse.

                              We took back the abuse case and gave her the other mare, no adoption fee except transport costs. We put some more time in with the abuse case, then found him a quiet life with a great family who know not to push him in certain areas.

                              both owners are very happy, several years later, and I'm confident both horses have forever homes.

                              AMC
                              cwer.org
                              AnnMarie Cross, Pres, Crosswinds Equine Rescue, cwer.org
                              Sidell IL (near Champ./UofI/Danville IL/IN state border)

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                              • #16
                                I think you should ask her if you could ride her horse for a week to make sure it's a good match. If all goes well (and she's on board) then go for it!! Have a PPE done, of course.

                                Life is too short to own a horse you don't absolutely love and get along with. It's okay not to click with every horse out there, and I think you know that you don't click with your current horse. This is an expensive sport, and every time you go down to the barn, it should put a smile on your face, not make you groan. Give this new horse a try!! Even if she doesn't go for the deal, sell your horse. It sounds like you are not getting the enjoyment out of him that you deserve.

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                                • #17
                                  I traded a gelding who hated his job for the one I currently have. Really, it was a convoluted trade between 3 people, but I think everyone ended up happy. I also had the opportunity to make sure the horse we were trading the old one for was a good fit and passed a vet check. There was also a stipulation that the new horse had to go around the show ring and not do the dirty stopping thing. Overall, it was a great way for us to find a better match for me without ending up with a horse that we couldn't do anything with as well.

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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    I have owned the horse for 2 years and we still have the same issues. I love his personality and he sure is easy on the eyes....but he and I do not click under saddle.
                                    I will talk to the woman with the horse I would like to trade for...she has no idea about any of this. I will ask her if she would even consider selling him and take it from there. If she would sell, I will suggest a trade.Either way I think it is time for my current horse to go. My trainer will buy him for very short money.I will be starting a new job soon and travel is involved ,so my life will be changing quite a bit anyway.
                                    Great if she will trade, okay if she wont.
                                    I will update after I talk with her today.

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                                    • Original Poster

                                      #19
                                      The offer is on the table. She really doesnt want to sell him...but will give it some thought.I made the offer a little sweeter by offering to full board him there if he is mine....and a friend offered to lease a horse from her if I end up there, so we can ride together.
                                      I will find out on Friday.

                                      Thanks for all your input.

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                                      • #20
                                        I traded my old, loony, kook-ball mare for a yearling (nearly 2yo) filly about 7 years ago.

                                        Best decision of my life.

                                        I got rid of a horse that scared the bejezus out of me, they got a horse that would do pole bending and barrel racing. They got rid of a horse that wanted to be a SHOW horse, I got a horse that was sweet, supertalented, and sane.

                                        Sure, they got a horse that was broke, but I hated having anything to do with her. Filly had had NO training (not even blankets or leg wraps - she sort of led) but was very sane, accommodating, and cheerful. I loved that mare from the second I laid eyes on her. I went on to break and train her myself, showed her for many years to HUGE success, and loved just about every second I spent with her (there were a few rides during the Terrible Threes that I wouldn't have minded skipping over!). She since sold to an amateur who loves her to bits and made her into a jumper. I still get to see and ride her since she only lives a half-hour away from me.

                                        I had a great experience with trading - it was easy, and I got a great horse out of the deal. The other people were thrilled to pieces as well. (Unfortunately, however, the loonybins mare ended up flipping over while in turnout and cracking her skull about 9 mos after the trade. )

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