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  • Horse exited throught the trailer window!

    I got a call from a friend of mine this evening. She and her dh were taking their surrogate mares back to the farm they came from but stopped just outside of town to get something to eat. They noticed one of the mares was a bit agitated and sweaty so opened the window to check on her, and she came through it! At first she hung up with just her front legs out but they untied her and she managed to get the rest of the way out.

    They had 3 other horses on the trailer and were concerned if they put her back on, she might act up again and upset or hurt one of them so asked me to go get their 2 horse trailer and come get her. We took her back to their house with them following. She loaded right up, too! The vet drove up not long after we got there.

    It looks like she has superficial cuts and abrasions and some pretty nasty bruising where she was hung up on the window.

    She is normally a calm, even-tempered horse. The other horses were calm so who knows what set her off.

  • #2
    I had a pony jump out the side escape door once and get stuck. The other horse in the trailer with her had gone down. We managed to get him off and had opened the escape door just a few inches to untie the mare and she saw daylight and jumped knocking over the poor girl trying to untie her. Scariest moment of my life. She hung there for a good 45 minutes. Finally she jumped free and except for a couple of rubs on her hips she was fine.

    I'm so glad to hear the mare you knew is alright! I know all too well how horrifying that must have been for her owners!!
    Donatello - 12.2hh, 9 year old, pony gelding
    April - 14.3hh, 14 year old, TB Mare
    Ella - 12hh, 4 year old, pony mare


    • #3
      I had a boarder here, who had a Perch X mare, about 16.2 hands, and solidly built. She came back from a hunter pace one day, and for some reason, the mare started to plunge back and forth...She broke the chest bar (her lead had been unhooked in anticipation of the butt bar going down)...Next thing we knew, she was squeezing through the side/escape door-people sized, definitely NOT Perch X sized!!

      How she squirted through I'll never know, I would not have believed it if I hadn't seen it. She must have turned her shoulders, and then her hips just right in those terrifying seconds! The only thing that happened to her was a quarter sized piece of hair came off on one hip. The owner did have a vet out the next day to be on the safe side, he was scratching his head, too, when he saw the small space/BIG horse.....


      • Original Poster

        It's scary the way horses try to kill themselves and give their owners a heart attack!

        My friend was very upset. I couldn't make out what was wrong other than I needed to get their trailer and bring it to them. When I got there, she was so upset, she wouldn't get out of the truck. She thought the mare was hurt really bad and didn't want to see it.

        I looked at the window and can't believe she got through it at all.


        • #5
          My trailer has bars under the window. The windows drop down if you want air circulation but the bars prevent any part of the horse getting outside the trailer. The horses can't get their heads out, which to me, is fine. That's just asking for trouble. I've seen SO many horses get hung up one way or another if you let them get their head out of the trailer.


          • #6
            I saw a horrific photo once of a horse that tried to go out a side window of a slant load and got stuck there hanging halfway out. They had to cut the trailer apart to get him out. It looked horrible. I think letting horses poke their heads out those windows is stupid in the first degree. My trailer also has bars and they stay up anytime a horse is in the trailer.

            Years ago, I was loading a big Swedish WB for my boss, and there was an escape door....very small...the kind you had to hunch over to go in and out of. There was no chest bar. That horse walked into the stall and I stood in the escape door to fasten him up. He swung his head, hit me in the chest, knocked me out backwards (right on my back) and then came out of that escape door with me laying on the ground looking up in horror. He jumped right over me. My boss yelled at me for "letting him do that." Yeh right...there was no concern for my welfare as I recall. To be expected I suppose as I was just a lowly working student.


            • #7
              Our current trailer has large walk through escape doors. The bad part is I haul with the dividers out, and I'm worried my horse may sometime try to exit this way. The good part is, they are large and safe, and I'm sure he would make it. Catch 22.

              I remember the old style crawl throughs we had. I think those would make me nervous these days.
              Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans


              • #8
                I am always amazed that people will open the trailer window in front of their horse--especially if it's acting up.

                Thank goodness the mare will be ok.
                "I'm not crazy...my mother had me tested"


                • #9
                  Well, if you want to see what is going on inside, you hafta open something. Sometimes the only option is in front of the horse (i.e. slant load), but if it happens to have gotten loose, I'm pretty sure whatever opens up, they're coming through.
                  Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans


                  • #10
                    I just can't picture a horse going through the window. Up and out a hole smaller than the horse? It seems physically impossible. The escape door, I can sort of see that, but was it a big window??
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                    • #11
                      I can't picture a horse going through a trailer window either, talk about ameoba-like. Lordy.


                      • #12
                        Maybe horses don't have good perception/judgment of small close spaces?

                        At a show once, with a 2-horse with nothing in front of the horse bays, and with side doors open, a 16h TB mare climbed in the forward side door to get some grain she spotted at the front of the opposite bay. Her hindquarters stayed outside, back feet on the ground. She was very quiet about it and quietly backed out when asked.

                        When I got my 16h TB he was a veteran of bigger rig travel, didn't know about plain ole two-horse. For first loading practice I opened up the entire 2-horse trailer, dropped all the bars (there's nothing in front of the horse bays.) With some convincing he went up the ramp into the left bay, got treats, settled calmly. Stupidly forgetting to put up the chest bar, I stepped over across the right bay and out the ride side door ... and he followed me. He was bent around the pole and his head and neck were proceeding out the side door when I realized he was there. His hindquarters were still mostly in the left bay. I stopped him and got him gently and calmly backed back into the left bay, it turned out not a big deal, thankfully. I guess all that lateral work really did make him more flexible.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Daydream Believer View Post
                          I saw a horrific photo once of a horse that tried to go out a side window of a slant load and got stuck there hanging halfway out. They had to cut the trailer apart to get him out. It looked horrible. I think letting horses poke their heads out those windows is stupid in the first degree. My trailer also has bars and they stay up anytime a horse is in the trailer.
                          Yes about heads out the window, that sight makes me nervous when traveling down the road. Not only are their large eyes, and noses into windpipes, exposed to wind-driven bugs and grit, but the chances for this accident-prone animal to find a way to injure the spinal cord through their necks ...

                          A long time ago trailers did not have windows near the horse's heads. Now they are often built with large windows right in front of the head. And this is an animal with a cat-like "oh look an opening - I'll go through there" attitude, without the cat pour-through body.


                          • #14
                            We had a straight load 4 horse, big old steel tank. We loaded a horse that took hours to load and the first time we finally got him in he followed me at a canter all the way down that trailer like a freight train. I jumped out the escape door and his front feet were right behind me. I slammed that door and his feet hit that door and lucky for me the latch held. I just know he would have followed me right out that door. I honestly think he thought it was a starting gate.

                            Another horse actually tried to make it out a wee little escape door on a two horse straight load. One of those itty bitty ones from the 70's Him a huge qtr horse. Friend was helping load and didn't close the door after horse got in. So he opted to follow her. I literally oozed him back in and pleaded and prayed the whole time. He was a good boy! Thank you!
                            The View from Here


                            • #15
                              When I went to pick up a mule a few years back she wouldn't load. (It was ten degrees and I considered leaving her here!)
                              So when she finally did load she and I came out the (full) escape door together, shoulder to shoulder!!! My fault for leaving the breast bar up. . . but that can be a catch 22.
                              Anyhow she jumped away from me as she exited. I immediately liked her for that! And I had a very thick coat bec of the cold, too.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by cutemudhorse View Post
                                When I went to pick up a mule a few years back she wouldn't load. (It was ten degrees and I considered leaving her there!)
                                So when she finally did load she and I came out the (full) escape door together, shoulder to shoulder!!! My fault for leaving the breast bar down. . . but that can be a catch 22.
                                Anyhow she jumped away from me as she exited. I immediately liked her for that! And I had a very thick coat bec of the cold, too.
                                edited to correct dysfunctional typos. . . . I mean dyslexic (sp) I think. Better go back to napping. . . . this ain't workin' too well. . . .


                                • #17
                                  Speaking of driving with the horse sticking his head out the window... this weekend on I-71 in Ohio I saw a trailer with a big dark horse with his whole darn neck out the window, mane whipping in the wind! He looked like a dog hanging out the window. It was amusing and terrifying at the same time.
                                  Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans


                                  • Original Poster

                                    I want to be clear that they weren't driving with the windows down. Not sure if some were thinking that or not. She was the 2nd horse from the front with 2 other horses in the stalls behind her. So, they opened the window in front or her to see what was going on. I'm sure most people would have done the same thing.

                                    Yes, she went through the window opening. She's not a hugh horse, around 15 hands, qh build. Someone they talked to right after suggested maybe a wasp or bee stung her or something.

                                    I'm betting they'll get bars on the windows after this. Their 2 horse, that I came and got the horse with, has bars on the windows. She was calm on the ride back home and came off the trailer calmly.

                                    The vet saw her last night and this morning. No internal injuries. Just minor cuts, scrapes, and bruises/swelling. The owners could use a little valium!


                                    • Original Poster

                                      SmartAlex, I have seen people drive horses down the highway like that. They'll have 2 or 3 heads and necks hanging out the windows. Can't imagine how they think that's safe.


                                      • #20
                                        OK one thing I've learned in this thread, re-inforcing personal experience ... those human-intended side doors look like any other passage-way to a horse. Noted !