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Spin-off from my Own Thread-BOs who reduce board for work, what are going rates?

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  • Spin-off from my Own Thread-BOs who reduce board for work, what are going rates?

    I am looking to get a feel for how much you reduce board for and what the work includes. For example:

    Mucking - $5
    Feeding (per horse/barn/etc) - $2/horse

    You get the point... what do you use as the "rate" that you subtract or count towards board?

    Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Gone gaited....

  • #2
    $10.00 an hour. Do what needs to be done.

    I was at a barn where she kept board/working completely separate. She charged $350 a month for full board, and if you worked 10 hours she gave you a check for $100 you could use anyway you want.

    It was fair and reduced misunderstandings.

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    • #3
      We have 14 stalls here. One trip through of picking/mucking is $25 Water buckets must be emptied and wiped down - refilled when horses are in and everything swept up and put away when through(I am a stickler on that) Take as long as you like - it takes me about 2 hours. When I paid hourly it took all day and never got done.

      C.I.T. Counselors in training for summer day camp get 50 points per week they can apply to board, leasing, lessons, trailering, or any other barn service. They must be prompt 8:30 - 3:30 and follow instructions to the letter.

      Everything else I do myself. My biggest concern is when a student/boarder comes too me and asks for a job that they show up ad do it all the way through at the time they offered to do it.

      I love allowing people to work things off! I did!
      "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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      • #4
        At my farm, I do 1 day per week, which tallies up to about 5-6 hours. That's 15 horses. Sometimes I do stalls (paddocks if they are out over night). That includes:
        scrubbing/watering
        picking paddocks or stalls (or a combo)
        feeding breakfast, lunch for 3 and dinner
        making the next days AM grain

        I still pay for grain and hay but the board for 1 is zero. Yes it is alot of work, kills a whole day, but I enjoy it and save over 2k a year! When broken down to hours, its about $10 an hour.

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        • #5
          $10 an hour for whatever. Seems to avoid any misunderstandings or fuzzy math (how many buckets did you scrub).

          The better barns have you sign in and out on a time card to keep a tally of actual hours worked. That also avoids fuzzy math.

          One of the challenges of doing this is some just don't understand what the work is worth against their monthly charges, setting a value on it like any "real" job helps with that. And $10 is very generous, you could offer less.

          Another is those that no show and then think they get the same credit as if they did the work. They may have a good reason, sick, kid is sick, school, family comittments...but the work is not done and they should not expect the credit. That time sheet or card easily shows them they only have 16 hours credit for the month and they can see why they only got 160 credit instead of 240 like they were expecting. Or Suzy's Mother can see on paper the kid was a no show all month when she hits the roof at the bill.

          This can backfire really bad and cause alot of hurt feelings and chores that get skipped so set it up like business deal up front and avoid most of that.

          One other thing, check with your insurance on the status of these people, they may be covered as "employees" or not and you need to know NOW. Because it's not IF somebody gets hurt, it's WHEN even in the best barns.
          A release may mitigate somewhat but not get you off the financial hook if they are hurt while doing chores you assigned to them.
          When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

          The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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          • #6
            I don't like the $10/hour - it always takes them longer. Anything I allow someone to "work off" is regular old chores I do myself the other 364 days in the year, so its not saving me. It is a favor I extend to them because I like them enough to save them a few $. There are set jobs around the barn that need done and each one should be worth an amount, not the time.

            This is partly the reason I stopped 2 girls' work-to-ride arrangement - they thought their time standing around watching a water trough fill was worth vastly more then I did. They don't see that I (or any industrious worker) would get the trough started, then go grab the hay for that field, check the fly sheets on those horses, and a couple other nearby little jobs while the trough was filling.

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            • #7
              Wendall, I think it depends on the size of the barn. I have always been in big barns-like 60+ stalls and more living outside. These barns are more dependent on the help and more people may be doing it so it is the best way to keep track.


              Small barn I would think you could keep track pretty easy without it and go by chores assigned.
              When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

              The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by WendellsGirl View Post
                I don't like the $10/hour - it always takes them longer. Anything I allow someone to "work off" is regular old chores I do myself the other 364 days in the year, so its not saving me. It is a favor I extend to them because I like them enough to save them a few $. There are set jobs around the barn that need done and each one should be worth an amount, not the time.

                This is partly the reason I stopped 2 girls' work-to-ride arrangement - they thought their time standing around watching a water trough fill was worth vastly more then I did. They don't see that I (or any industrious worker) would get the trough started, then go grab the hay for that field, check the fly sheets on those horses, and a couple other nearby little jobs while the trough was filling.
                This was solved by stating the hours needed for each job up front. If it took 2 hours to feed and you took 3, you only got paid for 2. Kept people from 'milking the payroll'. So, if you did the morning feed you got paid for 2 hours. If you got it done in 1 1/2 - good for you! You still got paid for 2 hours. Of course she took unexpected twists into account - and you were paid accordingly. We're talking about a normal feed day here.

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                • #9
                  Also $10 per hour.

                  I trade work done for lessons and camp for my kids instead of reduced board, though.

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                  • #10
                    There were 4 horses and a pony and for the most part, doing everything needed took around an hour..maybe a little more when I took poop out to the pile....made 10 buck/hr

                    My hours were taken off the NEXT months board. So work first, then taken off board.
                    A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

                    Might be a reason, never an excuse...

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                    • #11
                      My BO offered the free board...I figured it out that it's broken down to 5 hours per day...AKA $50 per week. Some times I take longer (if we have some horses in, grain needs to be put away, or hay etc) sometimes, like in the the winter, I whip through the stalls in an hour and a half, and return for PM dinner for an hour...give and take. Course, I boarded with her for a year and half before she asked me to help. She got to know my experience and ways, and me likewise. If I were a BO, I would be scared to have someone I didnt fully know (teen, ahem). I know there are genuine hard working kids out there, but they are few and far between.

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