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  • Interesting article in competing publication........

    It is about "Synergy in trainer-owner relationships".
    When asked if there are emotional attachments to the horses you train ? Darren Chiacchia answered;

    "I get quite emotional. I had two very good horses removed from my care during my recuperation from my injury. That was very painful. How could the owner do such a thing and how could the new rider do such a thing ? I wasn't raised that way. If one of my peers was injured and in the hospital and the owner asked me to maintain the horse, I would say sure. I'll send yo a bill and send the check to my injured peer."

    Has anyone been witness to such benevolence ?
    ... _. ._ .._. .._

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    Yes, I have witnessed this at among the 4 blacksmiths that have clients at our barn when 1 of them was injured. They all picked up his horses and shod them until he was back on his feet and declined taking them as new clients at the time.

    It wasn't until about 6 months later talking to my blacksmith that I found out he told his temporary clients to send the check to the injured blacksmith. Also found out, some did and some didn't. They used his recovery time as a free ride.

    Sometimes people really suck. But I was really impressed by their generosity and fellowship.
    "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." --Ghandi

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    • #3
      Not sure he did the math on that one because I wonder if he could carry two in full training for several months and send the check to the injured trainer. Doesn't pay the feed bill let alone all the other expenses...that type board and training runs around 1k up in any discipline. Not chump change, talking anywhere from 2 to 6 thousand.

      I don't care how benevolent they feel, it's a heck of alot more then a shoeing job. And if they needed the money? They needed the money-I sure cannot send my check to an injured co worker out of disability eligibility so I guess I suck too...

      And, maybe there were other reasons the horses were moved. Sounds like no love lost with the owner...

      This does not sit well with me. Just something really unrealistic about it...asking somebody to give up several months income plus feed, care for and house them them and being hurt they didn't is a little out there for me.

      If it was a week or two, yeah, that would be appropriate, not months with no assurance of when he was able to resume a full schedual.
      When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

      The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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      • #4
        Know of an instance where this happened. Rider was going in for surgery and owner said 'Well, rider isn't going to fully recover anyway'. Nice,eh?
        Just as well, the horses were too big and too hard to ride anyway. Kinda glad. Owner was a PITA anyway.
        Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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        • #5
          Hey Findeight,

          The "people suck" comment was for the people who didn't pay either blacksmith, just took a free shoeing 'cos the working blacksmith told them to send it to the injured and no one around to hand the check to.

          It is a much smaller scale than keeping show horses in training but I still thought it was pretty generous.
          "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." --Ghandi

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          • #6
            OK, got it. I'd send the check for the shoeing to the injured farrier if my own could afford to lose it.

            It's still way past being generous to give up several months board and training and not so sure whining about it and dissing the owner for moving the horses when he could not keep them in training displays any kind of "synergy". More like sour grapes.

            Bad timing it may be but they cannot sit half the season out and the new rider may have needed the business and could not afford to send the check and work for free. May not have been BFFs either. Or maybe the horses would have moved regardless because the owner deemed it best.

            Would not attract me as an owner with the possibility of the horse sitting if trainer is sidelined and risk getting publically called out for moving them. It's unfortunate but it is a business and we are talking months here, not a few weeks.

            I shall be charitable and assume the quote was taken a bit out of context or the magazine editors butchered it.

            Usually not a good idea...and unprofessional...to diss departing owners or fellow riders in a magazine even you think you have reason to do so. Some bridges are best not burned.
            When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

            The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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            • #7
              Equibrit - I dare you to post that in the eventing forum.

              I double dog dare you!



              Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
              It is about "Synergy in trainer-owner relationships".
              When asked if there are emotional attachments to the horses you train ? Darren Chiacchia answered;

              "I get quite emotional. I had two very good horses removed from my care during my recuperation from my injury. That was very painful. How could the owner do such a thing and how could the new rider do such a thing ? I wasn't raised that way. If one of my peers was injured and in the hospital and the owner asked me to maintain the horse, I would say sure. I'll send yo a bill and send the check to my injured peer."

              Has anyone been witness to such benevolence ?
              Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
              Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
              -Rudyard Kipling

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              • #8
                Yeah my guess is that isn't what the interviewer was hinting at when he asked if he gets an emotional connection!
                McDowell Racing Stables

                Home Away From Home

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JSwan View Post
                  Equibrit - I dare you to post that in the eventing forum.

                  I double dog dare you!
                  bwahahaha- would sure make for some good entertainment

                  I think saying that it is an "unrealistic" expectation when talking about anything other than a very brief time when the rider/trainer is out for the injury is an accurate way to put it
                  There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.(Churchill)

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                  • #10
                    Actually I think emotional was a euphamism for intimate, no?
                    McDowell Racing Stables

                    Home Away From Home

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                    • #11
                      Practically every good trainer showing or running I know has someone as assistents or backup.
                      I guess that one injured trainer didn't?
                      If he did, maybe the owner didn't like the set up if the trainer was not there?
                      Maybe the owner just needed a reason to quit that trainer, had been thinking about it and had an opening now, didn't feel the need to explain further, but took the chance to move the horses?

                      It does sound a little whiny to tell others they should have been helping him.

                      Some trainers get help when in need, everyone respects and likes them, maybe others, not so much.

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                      • #12
                        I double dog dare you!
                        Triple dog dare you - a train wreck would be a nice diversion from whining about the heat. I''l buy the popcorn.
                        suze
                        http://www.cafepress.com/horses_by_hawk

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                        • #13
                          Darren Chiaccia said that? Bwa Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah

                          Doubt it.
                          Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.

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                          • #14
                            I think that Sandy Ferrell mentioned how incredibly touched she was that owners stayed with her during her bout with breast cancer, she gave them options to go to other trainers they chose to stay with her during her illness.
                            Maybe that is what the article was speaking of, don't know Darren at all but apparently Sandy had some really stalwart clients.

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