• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

Trail Class and desensitizing horses - what's your best items

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Trail Class and desensitizing horses - what's your best items

    Working with some young ones and thinking about despooking and desensitizing things. So I am hoping to take something special with me to the barn to work on just about every day. Plus one day they may end being in a trail class. So I need ideas.

    We already have the cavelettis of doom
    The black mat abyss
    The plastic tarp attack, depending on the horse and their training who attacks who!
    COWS - we like cows!

    So trainers every where bring on your best.

    Thanks!

    K
    The View from Here

  • #2
    I recently watched a playday where they made a square out of jump poles and filled it with empty plastic bottles. It was entertaining to watch the horses walk through that.

    You can also fill a plastic bag with empty cans and make them drag it.
    Proud owner of a Slaughter-Bound TB from a feedlot, and her surprise baby...!
    http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/Jen4USC/fave.jpg
    http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...SC/running.jpg

    Comment


    • #3
      I know at a recent competitive trail thing, they had to pick up a hula hoop from a pole and carry it over (while riding) to a plastic fake cow and drop the hula hoop over the fake cow's head. Apparently this made at least one normally-unflappable horse become a little unglued. Something about the fake cow, I think.

      Also they used those pool noodle float things to create both a "curtain" the horses had to go through as well as like...have them poking inward with a small space in between for the horses to walk through like:

      ___ ___
      ___ ___
      ___ ___
      ___ ___

      Sorry I can't describe better than that, I wasn't actually there, just heard about it afterward.
      The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
      Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

      Comment


      • #4
        We had one throw a fit over a mattress once. Not the kind with springs in, just s stuffed cot-type mattress. The horse stepped on it, it 'squished', and horsie backed up real fast.

        Comment


        • #5
          Things to snesitize the horse with:

          Plastic Bags, hole with water, umbrella (open & close it)
          Now in Kentucky

          Comment


          • #6
            Balloons!

            Hopefully this link works:

            darn it doesn't work...

            Comment


            • #7
              The umbrella is a good one. I was at a schooling show once and it was drizzling a bit and someone thought it was a good idea to open their umbrella. Cue horse spooking and running off (luckily he was not in a ring at the time nor was his rider on him when this happened and he was easily caught again).

              Oooh, something else I just thought about: bells!

              Explanation: So I went on a trail riding camping trip earlier this summer with some friends. But for one day of the trip, I went to a fairy festival (Spoutwood) so I was, that morning, walking about camp in my garb, complete with head-wreath I'd entwined with little jingle bells. More than one person mentioned I should use it in despooking horses.

              (picture proof: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...4_619076_n.jpg When I got back from the festival that day, I was convinced to take a ride on one of the horses we'd brought so they could get pictures. LOL)
              The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
              Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

              Comment


              • #8
                Spin a rope (your lead rope end) over your horse's head, after doing both sides and the front first.
                I went to a bomb proofing clinic w/Rick Pelicano and the smoke bombs really got my mare. She wasn't going near them.

                Comment


                • #9
                  I have a pallet with a square of plywood screwed to it. Makes a good bridge, get's them used to hollow sounding floors, thus actually helped desensitise my horse to loading on the trailer in the process.

                  Gates... I let myself in and out of the arena. The first couple of times the gate "follows" them OMG!

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    How about one of those huge Pilates balls to bounce around, under, over and on your horse. My boy was pretty good with all that. One of my other friends at the barn and myself set up a whole obsticle course in the ring for our horses pleasure. We have that ball, 3 tarps (one of the horse to wear), one on the ground to walk over and one for me to drag around, or drape over a jump standard or chair. Then comes the umbrella, stroller (no kids in it of course ) the hoola-hoop which we just added and any other item we can think of. It is never dull.

                    You all had some great idea's too!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      You can carry a flag, drag a tire with a rope, open and close a mailbox, put on a poncho or raincoat while on their back, practice mounting and dismounting from the off side. Ground tying is a good exercise, too.

                      Build a bridge they can cross, back through three barrels set up in a row or a triangle, even something as simple as a clipboard hung on the fence that you have to sidepass over to, pick up, and put it back can challenge your horse.

                      I love trail obstacle work. I think the horses generally learn to like it, too, if you mix it up regularly so they never know what to expect.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I have heard that Major Defoe's whole Mountain Trail horse competition extravaganzas were inspired by the horses' reactions to cut-out plywood cows at a show at his facility, the Oregon Horse Center.

                        Some of the more interesting trail obstacles I have seen that bothered horses have been:
                        *ditches dug into the arena or outdoor area. Horses don't like walking down into them.
                        *fake fog/smoke, especially when combined with a dry ditch or water crossing
                        *teeter bridges (sturdy bridge with a pole secured under the center so the whole thing teeters
                        *taking a folded flag out of a mailbox, then riding over to a flagpole, snapping the flag to the cables and raising the flag to the top of the pole, all while mounted
                        *aforementioned plywood cow cut-outs, painted black and white, like 2 dimensional holsteins (they make an honorary appearance at all the Mountain Trail competitions)
                        *live person with full backpack gear
                        *live camel (okay, this one is extremely unlikely, and it's very hard to find a camel to desensitize your horse to anyway, but it made for an interesting surprise challenge one year)

                        In the regular show trail classes that don't require an excavator to construct, a pole or other sort of walkover on the bridge has become common. Rope gates (a rope between two jump standards) have become pretty universal and are worked differently from a regular gate. It's also surprising how many horses don't like the fake flowers that people like to put all over a show trail course to dress it up (alongside the bridge, gate and poles is common). Some shows also have reflective pinwheels in the fake flowers, which adds another visual booger element for some horses. The ride-through curtain, whether made of strips of canvas, tarp, pool noodles or willow branches secured to a ride-through gate frame is pretty common in both mountain and show trail, as well.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          - Don't forget the classic yellow rain slicker! The texture, the noise it makes, and being able to put it off/oon while mounted are awesome-- for some reason, the yellow color was the only one that really wigged out my normally bombproof pony. No yellow towels near her face either, thanks.... never did figure it out, although there's a theory that horses don't perceive yellow very well as a color.

                          - a barrel/card table/flat surface that you can ride up to, loaded with small soft bright kids' toys (thing soft like beanie babies, or dog squeaky toys)... the big challenge is to walk up, halt, reach down and pick one up, ride to Point B and drop onto another surface/hand to a person. It doesn't sound hard, and it's not, but my horse was so darn inquisitive that he kept nosing and mouthing the toys, ann wouldn't let me steer close enough to pick one up! (I half wondered if he was going to grab one in his mouth and carry it across the rinf-- but we'd probably have lost points )

                          - doesn't have to be a real camel.... our llama was a great stand-in, and surely not something that wouldl occur everywhere. Any kind of livestock is great exposure, especially cows (horses seem to be either terrified or fascinated, and pigs (same thing).

                          - the only other thing I can think of at the moment may have to happen via a sound-effects CD or some such, but acclimating them to the sound of motorcycles (motor-scooters, etc) are great help on the trails, hacking near roads, and just in general.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BayRoan View Post
                            I
                            Some of the more interesting trail obstacles I have seen that bothered horses have been:

                            *teeter bridges (sturdy bridge with a pole secured under the center so the whole thing teeters.
                            When I was a teenager, I showed a big Appaloosa hunter in open shows. He was 16.1 but we weighed him at #1400, and he was a bit long. He was a jack of all trades, and I often entered the trail class. I'll never forget the teeter-totter bridge. He walked across the bridge, but it teetered before he got his hind feet on it. So here he is, dutifully trying to step up on that high end with his hind feet. He made it! Good boy! Unflappable as always.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KLS View Post
                              -

                              - the only other thing I can think of at the moment may have to happen via a sound-effects CD or some such, but acclimating them to the sound of motorcycles (motor-scooters, etc) are great help on the trails, hacking near roads, and just in general.
                              Oh yeah. Went trail riding this past weekend on trails also used by dirtbikers. Luckily, they were ver polite dirtbikers who would stop, cut off their engines, and usually remove their helmets before we had to pass but even then a couple times the horse I was on was a bit wigged about having to pass those bikes.
                              The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                              Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                My freaky saddle seat morgan rocked trail classes. We would go in classes of 30-40 people and place in the top 5. It was always the stupid turn on the haunches that got us against the QH. Morgan shows or other breed-like shows we won.

                                We did rocking bridges. Narrow bridges with flowers all around them.

                                Dismount, ground tie and walk around horse. Mount again.

                                Walk over tarps

                                Drag branches behind us.

                                Gates - open & close.

                                My QH is still workinng on the trail obstacles. He was a total hunter baby and never did trail work. He still thinks cows are going to eat him but is better.
                                Insignia MC - Spanish PRE mare
                                Kenny - Hanoverian Gelding
                                Tuggy - RIP at the bridge (9/12/2016)
                                Theodore the Boxer - RIP at the the bridge (10/5/2017)

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Best trail class we saw had a mail box and then you crossed the flowered bridge. No biggy right. BUT then they tied the goat to the end of the bridge. Fastest trail class we ever saw. Nobody wanted to cross the bridge with the troll!
                                  The View from Here

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Get a dozen or so (cause they are cheap now) inflatable kids wading pools. NOT the solid plastic kind, the old fashioned ones.

                                    Blow it up, fill it up and you got a water obstacle. Maybe some poles along each side of the approach as wings or put it along the arena fence so he can only spin out one way then put a pole on that side-training "wheels" if you will.

                                    IMPORTANT. Put some bricks or something heavy around the rim on the inside so the horse does not hook it on a shoe and take it with him when he bolts into the next county...don't ask.

                                    They only last one session but, if they will walk thru that? They will walk over anything. Plus it combines the usual boogers of plastic and water in one.

                                    I haven't seen chicken, goats or other livestock since I was a kid but it never hurts to seek some exposure as long as you make sure you can keep control and not convince horse they ARE bad things that can be easily outrun.

                                    Worst thing I ever saw was a big, square wood pallet type thing with a rim about 10-12" high. Filled with water. Piece of plywood floating on top with about 4 2" diameter holes drilled in it so the water shot up thru them when the horse stepped on it. Several ping pong balls that would float in case the horse missed the fountains. And, oh yeah, you stepped into it directly from the ramp off an elevated bridge. Paint World show maye 84 or so. Few were successful, most fell off the bridge (and I thought it was stuuuupid). And, no I didn't have to do that one, that year I had a Western Riding horse that spooked at a flower pot by the gate and knocked the gate down.

                                    It's funny now...sort of. Long 12 hour drive home.
                                    When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                                    The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

                                    Comment

                                    Working...
                                    X