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This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.
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The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.
3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
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When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
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Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.
Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.
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Need advice on horse neglect (I rode him today(p16)
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And, yes, he has a sweet face and a lovely eye. Wouldn't a warm barn with two feet of shavings and a nice hot mash make a lovely Christmas present for him??co-author of 101 Jumping Exercises & The Rider's Fitness Program; Soon to come: Dead Ringer - a tale of equine mystery and intrique! Former Moderator!
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When I walked up to take the pics, he was in the barn. He nickered and walked out to see me. I think he was hoping I had some food. He let me pet him and was very sweet. I was glad to see that he was alert and interested in me. He smelled really awful though. His feet look pretty bad too. His stablemate also nickered and walked up but was a bit more reserved. He isn't nearly as thin but definitely could use some weight. His mane was all knotted and his coat is very rough. His feet also were in bad shape. I contacted another rescue and hopefully they will be able to help.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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OH MY GOODNESS!!! That poor horse is like a 1 on the Henneke Scale. I can't understand why he has not been seized yet!!! I would take those pictures and start e-mailing them to County Commissioners, Vet Clinics, Dept of Ag, Humane Society's and of course the local Newspapers and TV Stations. I would have done gone over there myself and told those people to give me the horse or there would be HELL to pay. There is NO Excuse for a horse to look like that!!!
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get those piccys to a an equine paper and to the centers that resuce horses -- and aspca -you need a policeman for cival rights and a aniaml controller for aniaml rights-- i have doen a removal of a horse
look if the authorites wont remove-- then you can go not birds the other one
go and offer some moemey200$ CASH -- get them both out say this
i can se you having a lot of trouble and in a court of law you will be prosecuted
for animal cruelty now you really dont want that to ruin your bisness--
so please let me have the horses for x amount otherwise i come back with animals rights authority and polce and you will have to give him to me for nothing --
i have done this erveral times in the past when a horse needs urgent help
and the authorires have heaps of red tape and cant do antyhing that horse and the other one need help now not tomaorrow not next week now
tell the fliipping paapers that the authories know and they doing bugger all about it
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Bird,
Can you print the photos out and take them to the police station? This horse must be fed immediately, or soon he will go down and will likely be too weak to get up again.
Please, please, I beg of you...take the photos to the police and ask them to accompany you to bring these horses some hay. If they agree(or even if they dont and you want to sneak some hay to the horses), you should bring them a soft grass hay. Do not bring them anything too course as too much roughage at once could cause an impaction. The horses should be fed small amounts of hay, several times per day. No more than a pound or two of hay at a time. Obviously, you should make certain they have access to clean water.
This is just horrific. These people are clearly guilty of animal cruelty.
I will pray that somehow you are able to help get food to these poor creatures.
Gail
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Guys, I'm doing the best I can. Equine rescues, vets, animal control and Dept. of Ag have all been notified by numerous people. Short of stealing the horse, I don't know what else to do. I've thought about notifing the press but this is a suburb of Atlanta. They don't mess with this kind of story often. Now that I have the pictures, I could e-mail them to local TV stations and see if this helps. This horse lives in the front yard of this place so he is very visible. I am appalled that nothing has been done yet.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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In post #57 you wrote: I probably should go over and try to talk to them but a little voice in my head keeps telling me not to. I feel I should trust my instincts.
Are you afraid for your own safety? How is that you were able to go and take photos?
This has been going on for quite some time, I don't remember the date on the first post, but now we are going on Christmas day and still the authorities have not moved to seize this horse. I am with the others -- he is going to die if someone does not do something drastic NOW. It's too late to go to the papers, if someone hopped on it this afternoon it would be Tuesday, likely Friday before anything would be in the papers and I doubt this horse will live until Friday if something is not done NOW. I know it's Christmas Eve, but maybe you can use that to your advantage?
Posting photos on CoTH is not going to save this boy. GLS has a good suggestion -- but if you are afraid of these people for some reason ... maybe the best thought is to throw 1 lb of soft hay and KEEP on the authorities.
I also like the idea of posting phone #s here and let CoTHers start calling!
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Bird,
That is not generally the case. When a horse looks like this one, and it is clearly evident that it is not being fed, even when food is present on the property, humane authorities as a rule can step in to impound.
Could you send me the phone numbers to the agencies you have contacted and also your local police department? I will also need the physical address where the horses are located.
I know I wont be able to reach anyone til Tuesday, but I promise, I will help get this some attention, first thing Tuesday morning.
In the meantime, is there anyway you can get some hay over to these guys?
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This horse is in the front yard. I just walked down the street casually and stood for 5 minutes and snapped pictures. Where I stood was blocked from view of house by the barn.Are you afraid for your own safety? How is that you were able to go and take photos?Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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You need to post the address and name of the business where these horses are located.
This is unacceptable on every level.
I live no where near Georgia but I will happily make calls to anybody that I can find on google or in the phone book.
I am sick to my stomach.
I would definitely e-mail those pictures to your local news station with a comment about it being x-mas and someone should be helping these poor animals.
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Just thought I'd mention that in GA it's HELL to get something done about neglected horses. Our Dept. of AG. is the worst.Originally posted by onthebit12000 View PostBird,
That is not generally the case. When a horse looks like this one, and it is clearly evident that it is not being fed, even when food is present on the property, humane authorities as a rule can step in to impound.
Could you send me the phone numbers to the agencies you have contacted and also your local police department? I will also need the physical address where the horses are located.
I know I wont be able to reach anyone til Tuesday, but I promise, I will help get this some attention, first thing Tuesday morning.
In the meantime, is there anyway you can get some hay over to these guys?
Not trying to down the efforts, just trying to be up front about how crappy GA can be about horses.
RIP Bo, the real Appassionato
5/5/84-7/12/08
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http://www.horse-protection.org/ they have links so maybe one of these can help- tony curtis saves horses
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Bird, Lori at Sunkissed is not too far from you, I KNOW she could and would do some good, you can PT me for her number, and I'd be willing to come down and talk to the owners, that is NOT an old horse, and he won't be alive too much longer looking like that. Please give Lori and or me a PM or call, and I know we can get something to happen
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Can someone offer to buy the horses. Just walk up with CASH in hand. Flashing green is a big motivator.
Walk up and say
"$500 cash right here for both horses in current condition. They'll get a good home and you won't need to worry about feeding them anymore."
Just make sure you right up a quick bill of sale
"Bill of Sale for 2 horses described as...(approx age, sex, color, markings) AS IS Condition, no implied warranty, Today's date, Purchase price and payment in CASH, Buyer name and signature, Seller name and signature"
Take pictures of both on the day of sale on THEIR property first and then in the home of new horses.
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I've done it before and it works- try it at least.
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