I hatched a coy plan - it's also a dog grooming & boarding place - I may just happen by to inquire for my smelly dog and then causally work into the heese - owner won't know me from Adam (or that I know Bird4416, for that matter...in case neighbor gets offended-better safe than sorry!) Of course, I'll be in my barn clothes on my way to the barn (legit;0).
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I'm anxiously awaiting a report from Chorse. After I get her info and opinion we can decide what to do next. I just hate driving by this place every day and seeing this horse looking so bad.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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One thing you may not have considered is the age of the horse. I am not making excuses for people who let their horses starve, but really old horses do sometimes drop weight in the winter. Considering this is only happening in winter and only happening to one horse, I'd suspect that first.
Why not go over and just make friends with them? It won't make them defensive if you just ask the age of the horses. And if the horses are both under 10, then you can be concerned.
And since the horses are right along the road, you can look to see if hay is being put out and how often.
If you can't get your questions answered, then you can contact AC and ask them to investigate. But you're better off meeting your neighbors & learning more first.
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Well, Chorse stopped by and gave me a report on her findings. The horse is in bad shape. She is going to talk to her friend at the horse rescue and they will make sure he gets what he needs. I'm sure she will post a report when she gets home. I'm just thankful that she is basically taking over the case as I really don't want upset neighbors. Apparently there is a divorce going on and noone really cares anything about the horses. Since this is a dog boarding business, I'm now concerned if they are taking proper care of the dogs. They are out of site in a building.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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Quick update; Yup - horse is in deplorable condition - caretaker said he grains 2 x day (look slike dog kibble he said) and waters, but he didn't even know what hay WAS! Thank goodness this boy has Bird4416 to notice him - and I'm getting on the horn to Cheryl at the rescue to see what our next move is. Poor boy has a body score of 2 - AT BEST! Never fear - help will be expedient.
RE: Bird wondering how the inside of the kennels were - seemed clean to me, but then again, all dogs were behind the frosted glass in shower-like "stalls" - didn't get into the k-9's as it was all I could do to focus on the horse. His pasture mate seems in good shape, but this poor guy is not going to last long without help...but help is on the way!
Thank you Bird, for being such a consciencious (sp) neighbor!
Will update later after talk to Cheryl.Last edited by CHorseFarm; Dec. 11, 2006, 06:45 PM.www.savethehorses.org GA Horse Rescue
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Well, we sicced the Dept of Ag and the County Animal Control on 'em this morning. Hopefully both will visit this poor guy today or tomorrow. At first AC gave the old "if he has food, water & shelter" spiel, but I strongly reiterated that this guy wouldn't make it much longer, and they changed their minds and will send out an investigator. Oh, and I did it using my real name, LOL, no anonymously - figured it had more teeth that way. Overkill, maybe, by calling both, but he needs whatever help he can get. Will update when he's been seen - they're going to call me so I can meet them (AC) and I think the Ag Dept is already scheduling the visit - they've called for better directions already! Please jingle for him!www.savethehorses.org GA Horse Rescue
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The horse is still there. The place is located close to county lines and the wrong county was sent out to investigate. The investigator was appalled by the condition of the horse and said she would call the state Dept. of Ag. That is all that has happened so far. I don't know if the Dept. of Ag has been out yet. I'm keeping a close eye on the horse as I drive by it everyday. CHorse was going to talk to her vet last night but I haven't heard from her as to how that went. We thought if a vet saw the horse and also called the Dept. of Ag it would help get someone out there sooner. I will update as soon as I know more.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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Bird, maybe this is a bad idea, but would it be hard to secretly throw some hay over the fence? My uncle's neighbors had a dog tied to a tree in their backyard for years--literally years--and didn't feed it. He fed it. I don't know how they thought it was surviving. When he finally moved out of state, I think he called animal control.
Anyway, not a solution to the problem obviously, but at least horse would have some food in his tummy until a more permanent answer is found.
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Don't let AC get away with the "he's thin because he's old" line, either (if he indeed is an older horse.) That shouldn't be the case unless there is an underlying health issue. (Age is not an illness) You may also suggest soaking the "kibble" for this guy so he has an easier time eating it.Originally posted by CHorseFarm View PostAt first AC gave the old "if he has food, water & shelter" spiel, but I strongly reiterated that this guy wouldn't make it much longer, and they changed their minds and will send out an investigator.
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I really would like to do this but I'm afraid if I do the animal control people will see hay and think he is getting it on a regular basis. If nothing is done soon I will throw him some hay. I don't know how old he is but there is no reason for him to look so awful.Bird, maybe this is a bad idea, but would it be hard to secretly throw some hay over the fence? My uncle's neighbors had a dog tied to a tree in their backyard for years--literally years--and didn't feed it. He fed it. I don't know how they thought it was surviving. When he finally moved out of state, I think he called animal controlSarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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From the info I [I]can [I] get so far, I believe the DOA did go out. This info is from an employee at the property on the QT. The DOA will not tell me if they've been, or what they think. This doesn't seem right to me - I gave full disclosure when reporting the horse...shouldn't they give me an update? I am quite frustrated, but have to believe they will do what is right - and soon. Need to ask Cheryl if this is the "normal" procedure. The good thing is that Bird4416 can keep an eye on the horse. And about dropping the hay in "accidentally falling out of one of our trucks" - heh heh heh, we'd both love to, but I think Bird's point about the state coming back and seeing hay and assuming the owner was feeding it could be detremental. HOWEVER, if this isn't resolved PDQ, hay will be a-fallin'. I just wish I knew the details - has the vet been out yet? what's wrong with the horse? how will it be handled? and when? ARRRGH!
More later. Hopefully good news!www.savethehorses.org GA Horse Rescue
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This appears to be harder than I thought. I can't seem to get anyone to do anything. I guess I'm going to have to go ask these people if they will give up the horse. Hopefully, they will say yes and I can take him to a place that knows how to rehab him. If they say no, I have no idea how to procede. Has anyone else dealt with this kind of situation. This horse is clearly a 2 if not lower on the body condition scale. You can see all his ribs prominently and his hip bones are sticking out like tent poles. Its awful. The other horse is not in very good condition either. You can see his ribs but his hip bones aren't protruding yet. It makes me sick everytime I ride by this place and I go past it about 2-4 times per day.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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I know nothing about rehabbing a starving horse. Please reassure me that I won't do any harm if I throw them hay. I have timothy and an alfalfa/timothy mix. I was reading up on rehabbing starving horses last night and they can go into heart and kidney failure if they get too much food too quickly. That's why I would really like to take this horse to a rescue that knows how to treat this kind of horse.Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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