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    Cost of boarding in north Phoenix/Cave Creek area?

    What sort of monthly board price am I looking at for a good facility with excellent care and amenities, including access to trails? Thanks in advance!
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    Boy - that depends on what you consider amenities.

    My trainer charges $525/month, and that includes:
    • 12 x 12 stall with run
    • Turn out all day or night
    • Stall cleaned daily
    • Hay and grain twice daily
    • Blanketing / fly masks


    And she happens to be married to my vet, so the care is excellent. Plus there is access across the dirt, very much not busy, road to McDowell Mtn. Park, which has miles and miles and miles of trails.

    Plus there's a dressage court and a jumping arena.

    She's a bit farther out - east on Dynamite, about 160th St, but it's technically Scottsdale.

    That's the only price I know for sure. Some places are more; some are less.

    You're not likely to find much in the way of turnout, though. Barb's place is atypical for around here in terms of turnout. Where we boarded when we first came down here, the horses generally got an hour or two - at the most - of turnout. Although some were out all night.
    Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
    "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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      #3
      That helps, thanks! We actually have cutting horses now so would probably be looking at similar amenities but a more western-oriented facility. The things you mentioned are pretty critical - these are spoiled show horses and expect to be pampered, LOL. In terms of trails, I couldn't endure conditioning them round and round in an arena, that's why I was thinking immediate access to trails. It's similar to what I do now and it helps make things a bit more interesting for both the horse and myself:-)

      We are also looking into purchasing a house/land of our own in that area. It just always takes me aback (being from east of the MS) when I see 1-2 acres considered horse property. Of course, I guess it doesn't matter if they are on 20 acres or 2 acres of sand! Sure wouldn't be a hardship for ours, since keeping weight off is much more difficult than putting it on them.

      I've really liked that area when I've been out to Phoenix to visit hubby's family. Is it as horse-friendly as it seems?

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      • #4
        Very horse friendly!

        I have a Western-peeps type friend; he might be able to suggest a place for you. Although I think he's mainly been at roping places. Access to "real" trails is a bit tougher unless you go farther out, but there are some awesome places in Rio Verde with access to the Tonto National Forest (we hunt there).

        And actually, there are some big Western places out near where my trainer is. Some reining places, for sure.

        When are you looking to move?
        Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
        "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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          #5
          Oh gosh, we are not thinking for a year or two when my retirement is looming closer (hubby is already retired, lucky dog). How is the real estate situation in that area? I had an agent out there tell me that he is expecting more properties to come available in the coming months in Cave Creek because their ARMs are about to come due at the higher rates. They seem to be about half or even one-third the price they used to be. Never thought I would live to see the day Cave Creek or North Scottsdale horse property was affordable for us.

          I would love to hear what your western buddy has to say. Ideal situation would be a place with other cutters where we can work cattle, but I suspect they are few, far between, and extremely pricey!

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          • #6
            I use to board in Cave Creek - off Dynamite- I know there was a few really nice western places on that road alone...I think you will have no problem finding your niche- Heck- there are bridle paths in downtown Phoenix!

            Also, you do know that Al Dunning is in North Scottsdale?

            http://www.aldunning.com/Default.aspx?tabid=195

            You should check out Bridle and Bit- that will give you insight into the area and boarding etc.

            http://site03336.customer.hagenhosting.com/

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            • #7
              There are some DEALS on horse properties in Cave Creek right now. Mostly short sales, if you want to deal with that. I have a friend whose really nice 2.5-acre horse property next to the Tonto National Forest will soon be listed. I love living here, and I love it when even more horse people move in.

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                My friend lives next to Al Dunning in Rio Verde and loves it. I think they have 3 acres.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Plumcreek View Post
                  My friend lives next to Al Dunning in Rio Verde and loves it. I think they have 3 acres.
                  Your friend must live very close to my trainer, then. I pass Al Dunning's place on my way to her.

                  It's lovely out there - some big (for here) properties.
                  Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                  "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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                    #10
                    Would love to live next to Al's place. Could just tack up, walk over, and work cattle:-) Can't get any better than that for a cutting horse fanatic. I recall driving out that way. Gorgeous places! Is Rio Verde just the street name or is that an actual area to search on the MLS? Or is it just considered north Scottsdale? I remember seeing the Rio Verde street name when I was out there and thinking that area was my idea of heaven:-)

                    Do the riding trails get alot of use? Are they shared with hikers, bicycles, or other such? I would love to fit our horses via the trail system in that area. Right now, I condition them around the outside of a polo field as well as some trail riding. I just don't quite enjoy those in-the-woods trails where it's so easy to run into big spider webs. What areas offer the best "ride-out" trails?

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                    • #11
                      I'm not exactly sure where Scottsdale ends & Rio Verde begins. My trainer is at 158th & Jomax (south of the road called Dynamite to the west and Rio Verde to the east), and she's officially in Scottsdale. Al Dunning's on 160th St, also south of Dynamite/Rio Verde, and also in Scottsdale. But when I talk about where that area is, I call it "Rio Verde".

                      The trails in McDowell Mtn park are shared use trails. Don't see many hikers in the part near my trainer's, but there are lots of mountain bikers. She conditions her eventers out there in the park.

                      The Tonto National Forest (where "Forest" is used very strangely for someone who grew up in NH ) is out there, too. We hunt there, and there are tons of trails of all sizes, plus you can just hack across country (when it's not snake season, which is why we stop hunting in the spring).

                      I'm mainly familiar with this area, of course, so I think the best trails are in the Rio Verde area. But there are also a gazillion miles of trails in South Mountain Park, where rivenoak boards.

                      And there are trails in the Phoenix Mtn Preserve, much closer in to the city.
                      Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                      "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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                        #12
                        Anyone know if this is Al Dunning's place for sale:

                        http://www.phoenixhomerealestate.org...rde-drive.html

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                          Originally posted by kypeep View Post
                          Anyone know if this is Al Dunning's place for sale:

                          http://www.phoenixhomerealestate.org...rde-drive.html
                          I don't think so. The ad says Rio Verde Drive frontage, and the entrance to Al's place is on 160th St. There are a number of big ranches out in that general area.

                          I can let you know in September, when my trainer stops flitting around the country and I go out for lessons again ;-)
                          Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                          "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

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                            #14
                            RA - (love the name, by the way) I thought of Dunning's because it says it has a cutting pen. And for the life of me, I can't figure out who would have that nice of a facility, including the cutting pen, besides Mr. Dunning. Most folks who are going to dump that kind of $ into a place have already moved to Weatherford, TX, the cutting capital of the world.

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                              there is a lot of $$$ in that area, repeat a lot of $$$. Think Hollywood, movie business type $$$$.

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                              • #16
                                Al Dunning is out there in Rio Verde, also Crystal McNutt, Jeffrey Wilms, Randy Paul and lots of other big-name reining and cutting trainers whose names are escaping me right now. Seems to be a lot of reiners concentrated there.

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                                  #17
                                  I've have to look through my NCHA (Nat'l Cutting Horse Assoc) trainer directory and see who else is there. I can only recall Dunning and Dell Bell off the top of my head as the top cutting trainers in the area. Tons of big-time reining trainers, for sure!

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                                  • #18
                                    Here ya go:
                                    http://www.cavecreekcutting.com/
                                    http://www.azcha.com/

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